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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 04/23/2004 :  00:48:04  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
According to Spinart, 'Frank Black Francis' is now tentatively scheduled for August - the Pixies stuff has put the release on hold and it seems the track list itself is yet to be determined or finalized.

As for 'Honeycomb' and the b-sides / rarities compilation, they should be released somewhere between October and next spring.


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gary13th
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/23/2004 :  04:57:34  Show Profile  Visit gary13th's Homepage  Click to see gary13th's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
oh well....i'll have to wait patiently in the meantime !


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Hatchetman
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Posted - 04/23/2004 :  05:17:41  Show Profile  Visit Hatchetman's Homepage  Click to see Hatchetman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Frog in the Sand

As for 'Honeycomb' and the b-sides / rarities compilation, they should be released somewhere between October and next spring.


I'm really looking forward to 'Honeycomb', I only hope it's as good as a catholic backed record.



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Edited by - Cult_Of_Frank on 04/23/2004 14:00:01
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Cult_Of_Frank
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Canada
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Posted - 04/23/2004 :  13:59:25  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well, let's just say I've heard some pretty high praise for it...


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Dave Noisy
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Canada
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Posted - 04/23/2004 :  16:00:02  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What Dean said.


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Apesy
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USA
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Posted - 04/23/2004 :  16:00:55  Show Profile  Visit Apesy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Bad news about Frank Black Francis...

Good news about Honeycomb; that's if it's released in October and not next freaking spring.

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IceCream
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USA
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Posted - 04/23/2004 :  22:37:15  Show Profile  Visit IceCream's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Frog in the Sand. I always appreciate knowing FB information.


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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 04/24/2004 :  02:41:53  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Obviously we'll have to wait a little bit, but our patience will be rewarded by 3 releases in less than a year... :)


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billgoodman
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Netherlands
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Posted - 04/24/2004 :  04:06:18  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I guess they will do both the b-sides cd's at the end of this year, and honeycomb next spring. That would make sense.
Or they could release them all three together sometime around christmas



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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 04/24/2004 :  04:34:31  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman

I guess they will do both the b-sides cd's at the end of this year, and honeycomb next spring. That would make sense.
Or they could release them all three together sometime around christmas



Yeah, I'd like Santa Claus to bring me a 4-cd box set including FBF, Honeycomb, the b-sides compilation and some extra Christmas songs by the Catholics.


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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 04/24/2004 :  12:00:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's anyone's guess at this point, but I actually think the opposite. I think they're more likely to release Honeycomb first and then the b-sides collection(s) later.

A "new album" of all new material, released in the midst of the Pixies machine rolling all year and all the good press and goodwill toward Frank Black going around, is likely to generate the most interest.

B-sides collections, even when they're great, usually have a "die hard fans only" whiff about them.
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dogjones
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USA
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Posted - 04/24/2004 :  14:59:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
well...that b-side collection should contain "pan american highway"...one of those b-sides that have you wondering what the hell is on the album itself if this is a 'b-side' to a single.

yeah, i know pan american is an outtake from the "unreleased album" but still...it's a gem.

looking at all the missing b-sides..except for some of the more bland cover songs most of it should be tight. hopefully "im going down" will be on it...one of the more tight covers.
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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 04/25/2004 :  02:13:05  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Here's the compilation track listing as Frank posted it 2 months ago:

ONE MORE ROAD FOR THE HIT
01. Show Me Your Tears
02. Don’t Clip Your Wings
03. Humboldt County Massacre
04. Pan American Highway
05. Angst
06. Constant Sorrow Man
07. Le Cigare Volant
08. Living on Soul
09. Preacher’s Daughter
10. Ludwigshafen
11. Pray for the Girls
12. Valley of Our Hope
13. A Dab Will Do You

SNAKE OIL
01. Down In The Hole
02. Do Nothing
03. Going Down
04. The Big Hurt
05. Take What You Want
06. Some Things
07. Belle Isle
08. Changing Of The Guards
09. Sleep
10. Snake Oil



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Edited by - Frog in the Sand on 04/25/2004 02:17:38
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dogjones
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USA
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Posted - 04/25/2004 :  07:37:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thanks...

ooo..."sleep" is a good one, esp for those that like that falsetto voice frank does..

this is gonna be the hottest set of B-sides ive seen since that Mudhoney double CD from a few years ago.
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CaptainMaximus
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Posted - 04/25/2004 :  07:45:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Belle Isle? How did this one slip under my radar? Anyone know anything about this one? I'm familiar with all the abovementioned besides "Belle Isle."

I agree with the guy above about the "Honeycomb" release; it would seem to make sense to release that while the Pixies publicity machine is working at full throttle.
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
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Posted - 04/25/2004 :  11:06:30  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I believe Belle Isle is a Bob Dylan cover. All the songs on "Snake Oil" are covers. I'm not sure when it was recorded, but I remember hearing that their next album was going to have a Stones cover, a Dylan cover, and a Reid Paley cover...and I think that was between DITS and BLD/DW, so I would venture to guess that they were recorded around that time.


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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/25/2004 :  12:25:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Frank said they've recorded enough versions of 'Sister Isabel' to do "an entire boxset".

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anazgnos
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USA
383 Posts

Posted - 04/26/2004 :  23:56:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by El Barto

I believe Belle Isle is a Bob Dylan cover. All the songs on "Snake Oil" are covers. I'm not sure when it was recorded, but I remember hearing that their next album was going to have a Stones cover, a Dylan cover, and a Reid Paley cover...and I think that was between DITS and BLD/DW, so I would venture to guess that they were recorded around that time.


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Belle Isle is a Dylan cover, it's on his "Self Portrait" album, as is All the Tired Horses. It's one of more reviled albums in Dylan's ouvere, but the diehards seem to go nuts for it. Anyhow, Morris Tepper played the song in his set when he opened for Frank at the Mint in late '01 (one of the best shows ever), and when Morris came out to play with Frank & the band (Eric Drew Feldman, Dave Phillips, and some unknown drummer), he said he doubted that the song was written by Dylan, since he was always lifting stuff from obscure folk singers and the like. Frank took exception to that, and they had a little good natured argument over it. That was a heck of good show.
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

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Posted - 04/27/2004 :  01:56:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There's a few songs on Self-Portrait credited to Dylan that many will say shouldn't be. "Belle Isle" is one. "Alberta" and "It Hurts Me To" are the others.

Still it's a neat album. It isn't hard to see why so many people hated it at the time and thought he was either out of ideas or deliberately trying to annoy his audience. Lotta cover songs, simpler songs than Dylan's more celebrated stuff. But I think it's aged well. It IS entertaining and easy to listen to and you can see why Frank might identify with it.

Edited by - Jason on 04/27/2004 01:57:41
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EnglishGeezer
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United Kingdom
63 Posts

Posted - 04/27/2004 :  19:40:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Frog in the Sand

Obviously we'll have to wait a little bit, but our patience will be rewarded by 3 releases in less than a year... :)


Bloody hell this man is so prolific with releasing material, I love being a Frank fan!! im going to cry with joy into my pie and mash.
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Avid-Fan
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100 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2004 :  00:58:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does anyone know if "snake oil" is an original FB song or a cover? There was conflicting info at the time of it's release on the Nadine cd-single.. I still don't know which...


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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1446 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2004 :  01:25:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Frank puts "Snake Oil" on the cover songs disc of the two b-sides collections. That oughta answer that question.

When Frank responded to the "Snake Oil" query a long time ago, I'm thinking he may have just misread "Snake Oil" as "The Snake".
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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 04/30/2004 :  02:20:03  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jason

Frank puts "Snake Oil" on the cover songs disc of the two b-sides collections. That oughta answer that question.


If my memory serves me well, someone (supposedly a Catholic) said this song was from an obscure Italian band.

quote:
When Frank responded to the "Snake Oil" query a long time ago, I'm thinking he may have just misread "Snake Oil" as "The Snake".



Yep, probably. I had the same thought anyway.



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The Shape
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Posted - 05/14/2004 :  07:07:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry but i'm little lost with all these releases.
I can't complain about this, but is anyone can give me details of what is the Honeycomb cd ?
cheers.
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1446 Posts

Posted - 05/14/2004 :  08:02:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Shape

Sorry but i'm little lost with all these releases.
I can't complain about this, but is anyone can give me details of what is the Honeycomb cd ?
cheers.



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Jettison
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USA
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Posted - 05/14/2004 :  08:34:49  Show Profile  Visit Jettison's Homepage  Reply with Quote
dylan describes 'self portrait' as his own bootleg.

wigwam is such a beauty.

does bob take credit for "belle isle" on that release?

isn't it traditional?

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The Shape
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Posted - 05/14/2004 :  09:14:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jason

quote:
Originally posted by The Shape

Sorry but i'm little lost with all these releases.
I can't complain about this, but is anyone can give me details of what is the Honeycomb cd ?
cheers.



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Okaaaaay !!!
So Honeycomb is the new album and FB Francis is a demo.
For me FBF was the new album.
And a b-sides compilation is expected.......whoaa !!!
He's working too fast, i can't follow !!!

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