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starmekitten
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/30/2005 :  20:12:37  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
we were in a shop ordering kebabs
it's blunt

i love them for it though


cats have nine lives/ which makes them ideal for experimentation
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 03/30/2005 :  20:17:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

no I'm talking about females, one of my friends told me the only thing she missed about her ex was [edited]


cats have nine lives/ which makes them ideal for experimentation



wonder what was edited there, and why.. kind of fits in perfectly with what Kathryn is talking about..

that said, one thing my exgirlfriend and i used to do, that both of us really enjoyed was [edited]



ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee!

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Posted - 03/30/2005 :  22:29:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Surfer Rosa

What if you're the one with more of an appetite but who's left alone for far too long?

The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it.



Poor Surfer!

In fact I think that a marriage only can lasts long if it has good sex, otherwise it may become boring. And I'm not talking about tha quantity, but the quality.


You're trying to
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Surfer Rosa
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Posted - 03/30/2005 :  23:52:23  Show Profile  Visit Surfer Rosa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ah yes - my woefully heavy cross that I bear.

A man away from home for far too much.

The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it.
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Jordo
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USA
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Posted - 03/30/2005 :  23:53:59  Show Profile  Visit Jordo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well...Sometimes people are uncomfortable with sex because -- ew, gross, I dont want to know about you (whoever) having sex. The same way you wouldnt want to know about how someone takes a crap. Cause its like this private naked thing with private parts and fluids and sweat and it is very reasonable for people not to want to hear about that.

I'm not speaking about myself though


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geertos
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Belgium
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  00:56:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rita

In fact I think that a marriage only can lasts long if it has good sex, otherwise it may become boring. And I'm not talking about tha quantity, but the quality.




Yep, it's the quality that counts, not the quantity. But if the quantity is less then once a year, you should definitely do something about it.

(copyright W. Allen, Love and Death)
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geertos
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Belgium
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  01:00:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another one from that Woody Allen-movie:

- woman to Woody: "But sex without love is an empty experience"
- Woody: "Yes, but as far as empty experiences are concerned, it's one of the best"
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 03/31/2005 :  02:01:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't forget this Allen gem:"Don't Knock masturbation! It's sex with someone I love!"
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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  02:21:55  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
With my closer friends Im not at all coy about expressing when I want, or have had, or talking generally about sex, nor they with me.

I think its very healthy to talk about sex, and the different aspects of it. And we do talk about EVERYTHING.

But there is a difference between discussing it in those details with close friends, and discussing it with everyone. (unless you are drunk, then you can say or do what ever you like!)




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Cheeseman1000
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Iceland
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  02:35:04  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GypsyDeath

With my closer friends Im not at all coy about expressing when I want, or have had, or talking generally about sex, nor they with me.

I think its very healthy to talk about sex, and the different aspects of it. And we do talk about EVERYTHING.

But there is a difference between discussing it in those details with close friends, and discussing it with everyone. (unless you are drunk, then you can say or do what ever you like!)




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As far as I recall Mel, you're not all that coy talking about sex with anyone!

I think I'm different to most people: I don't want to hear any of yor sordid details thanks.


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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  02:38:32  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
So why did ya just read this thread?

As i said, its fine when youre drunk!




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Cheeseman1000
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Iceland
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  02:39:50  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm bitter and jealous, leave me alone.


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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  02:50:09  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I know you are, I know. Its ok, you can tell us all about it.

(why dont you go to ann summers or something...they have some great female substitutes! )




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Surfer Rosa
> Teenager of the Year <

4209 Posts

Posted - 03/31/2005 :  04:26:59  Show Profile  Visit Surfer Rosa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn

Not to sound like a slut, floop, but in both of my major
relationships the courtship part got skipped and we
went straight to the sex part. (My husband always jokes
that the dinners and dates came way after the sex.)

In what way do you find it ineffective?

You and me both (again) Kathryn.

Every single one of my long term relationships resulted from what I thought were one night stands. In fact the only one in which the sex didn't come first disintergrated in a most astounding manner.





I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics



The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it.
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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *

1972 Posts

Posted - 03/31/2005 :  06:38:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You've got sex and then there's the intimacy thing.

Do you other guys find that, following orgasm, you're not really so into being intimate?
I feel usually (unless the next round just starts early - which ain't a bad thing at all) that I want to get up, move around...something besides lay in bed.
Dunno.
Could be a situational thing.

Also, has anyone ever been involved in mutual masturbation?
I've thought about trying it with the woman I see occaisionally, but haven't had the opportunity to breach the subject.
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Surfer Rosa
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  07:11:37  Show Profile  Visit Surfer Rosa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I look to my friends for intimacy, lovers for sex.

And yes to the mutual masturbation. I don't know if it's a power thing, but I like to see how a man handles himself.





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mun chien andalusia
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Italy
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  07:31:49  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
for what i know there are 2 opposite behaviours towards sex. some people keep talking about it all the time in a gross manner reducing it to a mere pornographic sequence (or a simple physical need like defecation), some others totally avoid the argument. most of us are someway in between and i think that the cultural background has a lot to do with our approach. for example many people i know have problems with their partners because they want to try stuff but are afraid of asking.


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starmekitten
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  08:22:24  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
se, thats wrong that means the whole relationship is wrong, you should be able to bring anything up with your partner because they are the ones you're closest to, your lover is supposed to be your best friend and if you're too scared to ask them something they aren't a great best friend

I think.


cats have nine lives/ which makes them ideal for experimentation

Edited by - starmekitten on 03/31/2005 08:23:11
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KimStanleyRobinson
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  09:41:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think you have to be careful wanting your lover to be your best friend.

I can't really articulate it, I just think it is a bit dangerous to expect one person to be it all for us.
I mean, if you really think about it, having a great relationship with a great lover opens up your mind and soul - you want to be in the world more..which means interacting with people more and being more coinfident and alive...and craving the world more.
If your relationship makes you want to be the only two people in the world then maybe its a bit dysfunctional.
I think.


So, needless to say, if you were waiting around with five bucks in your hand waiting to buy my upcoming brochure Understanding Poop, you can put that five bucks away, 'cause it ain't happenin.
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  10:28:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
one thing i've found to be true.. people who talk about sex a lot are usually the ones not having sex (myself included)




ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee!
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  10:49:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Floop, you're so right again, what's happening?

Me not talks about that...


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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  10:51:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rita

Floop, you're so right again, what's happening?



i haven't been drinking as much beer this week. i'm getting smarter




ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee!
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  10:52:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Floop, you're so right again, what's happening?

Me do not talks about that matter...


You're trying to
fool somebody, but you end up fooling yourself.
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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *

1972 Posts

Posted - 03/31/2005 :  11:07:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oops.


So, needless to say, if you were waiting around with five bucks in your hand waiting to buy my upcoming brochure Understanding Poop, you can put that five bucks away, 'cause it ain't happenin.
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starmekitten
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  11:23:12  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I don't know how to put it...
I need to ponder this for a second, for me to be intimate like that with another person is a massive deal with a massive amount of trust involved, if I didn't trust someone enough to ask them anything I wouldn't be in that situation in the first place. My ex was for a long time my best friend as well, so thats all I have ever known


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kathryn
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Belgium
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  11:54:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I dunno. I've had a couple of relationships that were
not all-encompassing (the sex was phenomenal but the friendship was non-existent or the friendship and sex were great but there was no intellectual connection) yet they were very and satisfying relatinoship. I think a lot of myths exist around sexuality, especially female sexuality and especially about finding an "ideal" mate.


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starmekitten
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  12:15:38  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
this is just how it is for me, I can't really comment on how it is for other people

i have a lot of friends who have had some fabulous non all encompassing relationships and it suits them, sometimes i really do wish i was a little more that way but i'm not

the whole issue of relationships is so broad and personal and differs from individual to individual, so personally i don't believe in soul mates and KSR's only two people in the world theory, i'd be quite happy with someone who i trusted well, could get on with well and feel comfortable with

and all that happy ever after jazz at all

is that too old fashioned you think? i know it's supposed to be the age of sexual freedom and all


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kathryn
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Belgium
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  12:22:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't think that's "too old-fashioned" or too much to ask for.
I think it's good old-fashioned fun to feel happy/comfortable with and trusting of someone and have great sex. I'm an old-fashioned gal myself.




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Surfer Rosa
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  12:35:28  Show Profile  Visit Surfer Rosa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KimStanleyRobinson

I think you have to be careful wanting your lover to be your best friend.

I can't really articulate it, I just think it is a bit dangerous to expect one person to be it all for us.
I mean, if you really think about it, having a great relationship with a great lover opens up your mind and soul - you want to be in the world more..which means interacting with people more and being more coinfident and alive...and craving the world more.
If your relationship makes you want to be the only two people in the world then maybe its a bit dysfunctional.
I think.


So, needless to say, if you were waiting around with five bucks in your hand waiting to buy my upcoming brochure Understanding Poop, you can put that five bucks away, 'cause it ain't happenin.




I cannot agree with you more.

I think it's incredibly dangerous to be everything to one another. I'm not saying I don't believe in happily ever after together forever - it's just that people change over time, your needs change and apart from that one of you is going to outlive the other. I feel it's essential for your own mind to be able to find the intimacy and peace that you get from friendship with someone (or many people) other than your lover.

However this is all coming from someone who could just be fooling herself.



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Carolynanna
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Canada
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  12:41:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

this is just how it is for me, I can't really comment on how it is for other people

i have a lot of friends who have had some fabulous non all encompassing relationships and it suits them, sometimes i really do wish i was a little more that way but i'm not

the whole issue of relationships is so broad and personal and differs from individual to individual, so personally i don't believe in soul mates and KSR's only two people in the world theory, i'd be quite happy with someone who i trusted well, could get on with well and feel comfortable with

and all that happy ever after jazz at all

is that too old fashioned you think? i know it's supposed to be the age of sexual freedom and all


cats have nine lives/ which makes them ideal for experimentation



Ooooooo I nominate a forum match for tre and cheesy!
I think they have similar ideas.

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kathryn
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Belgium
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  12:41:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would much rather have sex with my husband and
get the intimacy and the "let's process our every feeeeeeeling" from my female friends. If that's what you're saying, Surfer, I don't think you're fooling yourself. I know some women who boast
of how open and "in touch with their feminine side" their
husbands are and I'm, barf, how can you fuck a man like that?


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Surfer Rosa
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  12:45:50  Show Profile  Visit Surfer Rosa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
THANK YOU!

If I want to sleep with a woman quite frankly, I will.

This whole metrosexual nonsense kills me. It makes me sound old, but it drives me utterly insane.

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Cheeseman1000
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Iceland
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  12:51:07  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm not sure about that Carolyn. I don't think it would be healthy for one side of the relationship, say the man, to be actually afraid of the other half.

I second the non-metrosexual thing though, I think a slovenly oaf is infinitely more appealing than a spruced up spiv. Ahem.


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darwin
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USA
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  12:52:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Surfer Rosa
I'm not saying I don't believe in happily ever after together forever - it's just that people change over time, your needs change and apart from that one of you is going to outlive the other. I feel it's essential for your own mind to be able to find the intimacy and peace that you get from friendship with someone (or many people) other than your lover.



I think you change together

As far as best friends don't we grow out of that in junior high? We have friends and they mean different things for us in different contexts. We don't have to rank them. I know I'm missing the central theme of the conversation, but I don't think a relationship is going to be fulfilling if you don't like and trust the other person.
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Surfer Rosa
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Posted - 03/31/2005 :  13:12:52  Show Profile  Visit Surfer Rosa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The changing together doesn't always happen that way.

I agree on the liking and trusting someone though - that's essential for even the most basic of relationships.



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