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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *

1972 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  10:12:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The flesh is strong.

This was proven by James Earl Jones in Conan The Barbarian when he has the follower step off the cliff and she falls through the wooden platform or whatever it was and he talks to a bloodied, beaten Governator about The Riddle Of Steel.


"John Mayer wants all you moms to be nice to your daughters so frat boys can date rape them while listening to his music."
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  10:20:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm no James Earl Jones.


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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  10:39:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Conan the Barbarian should be in the movies you thought were cool as a kid but now suck thread...

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Black glasses and feedback took my sense of fun.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  10:45:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn

It's the flesh, Homers. My mind tells me the right thing to do
and then the flesh betrays me.

You're telling me that it's your mind leads you astray? Not your
flesh-and-blood body?


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank



How can your flesh lead you astray? I am no science man, but I am pretty sure it is your brain that controls you.

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starmekitten
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United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  10:47:38  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
HPM reckons I always disagree with him but if you ask me this is classic case of him disagreeing with me


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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  10:50:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
why are you always disagreeing with HPM?

ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee!
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  11:05:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm always disagreeing with my flesh.

Homers, seriously, let us finish this philosophical discussion.
It's your body that takes action. For example, it's your limbs that
pick up the phone or the condom or the bottle or the
bong.

There! That settles the matter once and for all!


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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  15:18:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OH

MY

GOD!

I always though you lot were thick (especially Kitty), but now I know it. And to think, she reckons she's a science girl too.

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  15:26:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Should I be insulted or was that an orgasm you just had?

Sorry if I'm getting too personal, Homers. At least I am trying to
explain myself and make a point. Whereas you're just throwing
a hissy fit.

And what do you mean we're thick? Thick as thieves? Thick as in
our waists size? Thick as in dumb?

Answer carefully.



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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  15:30:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Doesn't mind tell the arm to pickup the phone? If there is no soul, is there anything besides flesh?
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n/a
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4109 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  15:31:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And post a picture too Homer!


So this is for when you're feeling happy again
And this is for when you're feeling sad
And this is for when you feel...
Something
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  15:32:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
it's not always your limbs that pick up the condom.

i'm just saying




ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee!
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  15:51:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by floop

it's not always your limbs that pick up the condom.

i'm just saying




ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee!



can you explain this one, floop?


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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  15:53:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thick as in stupid yeah. You brain controls your thoughts. Do I really need to explain this?

I'm sorry but you girls need telling. It's like you have some secret 'Disagree with Mike, even when it makes us look stupid' club.

Was that careful enough?

And don't get your knickers in a twist Kiki, I would have made it clear (too clear for some) that I am joking around, but sadly I had complaints about my smilies. Told you that people would not know whether I was joking or not.

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Edited by - Homers_pet_monkey on 02/08/2005 15:54:36
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  15:55:39  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Alternatively, you don't understand what the statement in question actually means.


"What sounds to you like a big load of trashy noise, is in fact the brilliant music of a genius"
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  15:57:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh no! Do you fear emoticons as much as Dayanara does? She is downright phobic
about them.

Thick as in stupid, huh? I'm gonna have to mull that one over.

Look, all I'm saying is, duh, the brain controls your thoughts, yeah, i know that
but your body (aka flesh) goes ahead and does things that your brain knows
are not the best. Ever experience that one, Homers? Doesnt the devil on your one shoulder
ever hop over to the other shoulder and tie up the nice angel and stick him in a closet
for an hour or two and then go do nasty fun things? Happens to me all the time, all the time.

That's what I've been trying to say.



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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  15:57:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kathryn

quote:
Originally posted by floop

it's not always your limbs that pick up the condom.

i'm just saying




ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee!



can you explain this one, floop?


I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank



as in, sometime someone else puts on the condom.




ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee!

Edited by - floop on 02/08/2005 15:58:43
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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *

1972 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  15:59:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rita

And post a picture too Homer!


best. post. in. thread.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  16:00:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ooooooh. OK. I thought you meant it just flew on or something...sorry. I am
as you know, thick, as in stupid. Right. Thanks floop.


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n/a
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Posted - 02/08/2005 :  16:01:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KimStanleyRobinson

quote:
Originally posted by rita

And post a picture too Homer!


best. post. in. thread.



Thanks KSR, at least someone says that.


So this is for when you're feeling happy again
And this is for when you're feeling sad
And this is for when you feel...
Something
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  16:11:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000

Alternatively, you don't understand what the statement in question actually means.


"What sounds to you like a big load of trashy noise, is in fact the brilliant music of a genius"



Alternatively perhaps you should stop trying to get laid for a moment and see that I am joking Cheesebell. Of course I know what the statement means, it's kind of well known, it was in a quite famous book.

Berk.

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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  16:17:29  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Cheesebell. Interesting.

Explain to me the humour in arguing the point over and over then, you NME-toting slag.


"What sounds to you like a big load of trashy noise, is in fact the brilliant music of a genius"
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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *

1972 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  16:24:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
MIND, kathryn.

You're using the word BRAIN where you should use MIND.

And no, your "flesh" never goes ahead and does what your "mind" knows is wrong.

Your flesh knows nothing and can "do" nothing.
Your mind knows and can do everything.
You mind wants, not your body.
Your brain does not want.
It is what your brain does that wants.
What your brain does is THINK which creates MIND which wants.

Yes, brain is body, but mind is no more body than smack is back of hand.
Why do I feel like Yoda?

Which brings me to...

Sex.
Hmmm.
Definitely not a higher-reasoning function but i think without "mind" it wouldn't matter. Sex is linked to sentiency or maybe even self-awareness?
Are there non-sentient beings that reproduce sexually?

Morrissey maybe the opposite, but he's the exception to the rule, wouldn't you say?



Hehee.
That was cool.
I slipped a Morrissey bash in there.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  16:27:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000

Cheesebell. Interesting.

Explain to me the humour in arguing the point over and over then, you NME-toting slag.


"What sounds to you like a big load of trashy noise, is in fact the brilliant music of a genius"



Explain to me the humour in anything you say. Tough isn't it?

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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  16:34:26  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000

Cheesebell. Interesting.

Explain to me the humour in arguing the point over and over then, you NME-toting slag.


"What sounds to you like a big load of trashy noise, is in fact the brilliant music of a genius"



Explain to me the humour in anything you say. Tough isn't it?

Love, love, my season

Anything you say, Mike.




Did you get it? Or did you need me to walk you through it? Ach, if i wanted to drain the humour out of something I'd probably just call Dean in.

Back on topic, my flesh is weak. Bonsoir, mes amis.


"What sounds to you like a big load of trashy noise, is in fact the brilliant music of a genius"
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starmekitten
-= Forum Pistolera =-

United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  16:34:27  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
the flesh is weak, for years i knew that still sleeping with this one guy was wrong and my head would tell me that it was really a very bad thing to do and he was no good and i'd end up hurt and blah blah blah but then whenever he was around that lower tummy ache thing happened and the goosebumps and next thing i know...

the mind said no, the body said fuck you lets get it on!

this would be an example of the flesh being weak. this is the nicest example i have. i have a more potent example but it would kill the thread like a floater kills the romance.


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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *

1972 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  16:43:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

the mind said no, the body said fuck you lets get it on!




Yeah, but I'm saying that that lower tummy thing is actually MIND.

Not necessarily a frontal lobe thing, but for sure in your mind.

So again, the flesh is not weak, the MIND is weak.

I also personally have a WEAK RESOLVE when it comes to sex, but that resolve is in my MIND.
My body says nothing...it is in my mind.

Yes, this counters many years of "thats your body telling you..." statements, but not really.
It is your mind telling you that your body is [insert condition]...

Semantics, really.

I still say its all in your head.
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *

Australia
1811 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  16:44:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

the flesh is weak, for years i knew that still sleeping with this one guy was wrong and my head would tell me that it was really a very bad thing to do and he was no good and i'd end up hurt and blah blah blah but then whenever he was around that lower tummy ache thing happened and the goosebumps and next thing i know...

the mind said no, the body said fuck you lets get it on!






what she said


A monkey will eat dirt if you make him.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  16:48:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KimStanleyRobinson

quote:
Originally posted by starmekitten

the mind said no, the body said fuck you lets get it on!




Yeah, but I'm saying that that lower tummy thing is actually MIND.

Not necessarily a frontal lobe thing, but for sure in your mind.

So again, the flesh is not weak, the MIND is weak.

I also personally have a WEAK RESOLVE when it comes to sex, but that resolve is in my MIND.
My body says nothing...it is in my mind.

Yes, this counters many years of "thats your body telling you..." statements, but not really.
It is your mind telling you that your body is [insert condition]...

Semantics, really.

I still say its all in your head.



Watch yourself Kim, Simon might get precious on you ( - brought back just so that Simon knows I am joking).

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starmekitten
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United Kingdom
6370 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  17:18:33  Show Profile  Visit starmekitten's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KimStanleyRobinson

Yeah, but I'm saying that that lower tummy thing is actually MIND.



I know you guys have minds livin' not oh so far away from the lower tummy area....

seriously though, the body has reactions that are in no way related to conscious thought and it is these purely physical reactions that can dictate how weak the flesh really is.

the flesh is weak


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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/08/2005 :  17:21:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not the sort of reactions that are solely (or even largely) responsible for making you sleep with someone (which is what we are essentially talking about now here).

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  17:28:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The flesh wants flesh.




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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  17:31:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Come here whilst I cut your brain out. We'll see what the flesh wants then.

By the way, check your email.

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  17:33:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
By the way, I am not letting you pull a Ray Liotta (sp?).


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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =

United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  17:40:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks. I needed that image back in my head.

One of the few times I have been genuinely shocked during a film. Well, except for Cum Lola Cum.

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