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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 02/12/2005 :  07:38:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just ran across this news story...what do you think?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1804&ncid=1804&e=1&u=/washpost/20050211/tc_washpost/a15511_2005feb10

I guess your boss must be ABLE to read your blog to get angry, huh?

apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2005 :  08:36:36  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
At worst that could be a slippery slope. Well, it probably is actually.

What's to stop employers from eventually censoring anything you publish on your blog, if they disapprove of your general interests or attitudes outside of work? They could argue that you give the company a bad name, with no need for proof- I really don't see how the blog was relevant to the firing company, since no names or identifying characteristics were mentioned.

Then again, it was obviously a news media company, and they take PR pretty damn seriously. Police State/Thought Police through employers rather than Big Brother government. Sweet.

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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2005 :  10:28:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
on the one hand i think that's fucked up, becasue it's a violation of the bloggers personal privacy.

but on the other hand, should bloggers have rights? isn't "blogging" kind of.. well, nerdy?




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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2005 :  11:36:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've already inadverantly (sp?) insulted forumites by stating my
thoughts about most blogs.


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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2005 :  12:27:49  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well slap mah mammy and call me a so an' so, an' fo the Lawd's sake, don' gowan inta that briar patch down dere!



www.discordis.com/blog
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2005 :  12:31:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Apl, you're so funny. I hope I have not insulted you and I know I am a bit
off topic here (lawdy!). All I'm saying is, I have not read every blog in existence
but among those that I have read I find few to be worth reading. I am not including or insulting you here. I think that while some blogs have their merits, the idea of having a blog has become one of those trendy things people do.
Am I still insulting you? Sorry.



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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2005 :  12:37:00  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Nope, you never were. I don't have a blog because it's trendy, so no worries.

One blog I think you might enjoy (besides my incredible contribution to humanity below ;)) is www.longstoryshortpier.com - great stuff.

www.discordis.com/blog

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2005 :  12:51:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You do have a blog and I have insulted you and I do apologize.

Plus, I totally went off topic anyway, this thread was more about employee rights.
Which reminds me of a former coworker who was recently fired for using the email at work to solicit sex with an underage girl
(whole other story in that). He got all indignant about it and I
couldn't help literally laughing in his face. Why don't people
realize that their employer can be privy to every single
keystroke they type at work?


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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2005 :  13:28:08  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It's all cool. again, I didn't feel insulted in the least. :)

I can't believe that guy was indignant after what he did. Sounds like a real winner.

I still think the case in this story is frightening when you consider the implications. Makes me even more glad I am not in the corporate world anymore.

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2005 :  13:32:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am with you, Apl, ever grateful every day I am no longer in
the corporate world.


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SpudBoy
= Cult of Ray =

Equatorial Guinea
649 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2005 :  13:54:06  Show Profile  Visit SpudBoy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ok so I am still deeply embedded in the corporate world, and I have mixed feelings about this.

On one hand, anonymous blogging not naming names (people, company) on personal time is, to me absolutely no excuse for firing someone. I would think that it is actually a good foundation for a lawsuit if you get fired under these circumstances, as the plaintiff might be able to make the case that the standard employment agreement saying the company can fire you any time for any reason (yeah you probably signed one too), was done under duress as the other option is not working.

That said, I can see that anything that is directly injurious to the company (naming names, etc) is firable, as is blogging on company time (or reading the New York Times, playing tetris, etc.) as that is basically theft of your wages. If I start a company and hire someone who takes my money and farts around or insults me in return, they're out the door.

I think the article in question blurs the lines between these two, and seems to adopt a self righteous position toward slacking. That bugs me. I pee on their proverbial feet.


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Elephant
- FB Fan -

Canada
240 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2005 :  16:45:38  Show Profile  Visit Elephant's Homepage  Click to see Elephant's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I think they should shoot all the bloggers into the sun and then maybe replace them with pink pandas.
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2005 :  17:24:03  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I agree with a lot of what's already been said about the article. If someone is posting stuff that's potentially damaging to a company, that's one thing, and I can kind of see firing someone for that. On the other hand, is anyone REALLY motivated to purchase or avoid any particular company's products based on what they've seen on an Internet journal? I get the feeling that some of these blog-based firings are really just excuses for getting rid of people the bosses don't like anyway. And if it's all anonymous, I don't think it's at all reasonable to fire someone. There's no potential harm in that situation, as far as I can tell.

quote:
but on the other hand, should bloggers have rights? isn't "blogging" kind of.. well, nerdy?


Unlike posting to a forum based around a guy who sings songs about UFOs, you mean? :P



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Edited by - VoVat on 02/12/2005 17:25:06
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2005 :  17:31:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by VoVat
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but on the other hand, should bloggers have rights? isn't "blogging" kind of.. well, nerdy?


Unlike posting to a forum based around a guy who sings songs about UFOs, you mean? :P




at least i don't post about every minute, boring aspect of my life.

oh wait, i guess i do.


had a great tofu sandwich today. tofu, bell pepper and sprouts.. it's all i had left in the fridge. came out great.




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