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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
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 Posted - 12/09/2004 : 15:50:16
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.....move his own gear on and off of the stage? Or is the working man romanticism gone?
Has everyone (The members of the Pixies) made enough quick and easy money yet? Time to start progressing again on the solo tip me thinks!
Why is Bam Thwok not played much? I haven't heard the song yet but I am assuming that if he does not play it live it mussn't be good enough for our ears at any time or did it not make enough of a wave to warrant it's play? Maybe it was a record exec suggestion?
I am not saying that the Pixie reunion is all bad. The warm up tour was a great idea.
I went to see Joe Strummer and The Mescaleros and there were these people who may have missed out on seeing the Clash live so they decided to relive this part of their life by attending the Mescalero show. It was just embarrassing to watch them react to the Clash material and sit on their hands for the Mescalero's music. They acted as though the JS&M's music was utter shite! But then I guess their leg warmers, safety pinned pant legs and rose coloured glasses hindered their listening ability. Oh ya and it was really funny to watch them react when they smelled the kif we lit up! We were the devil's children amongst the strung out econoclasts!
I guess that I keep wanting to be amazed by that Catholic chemisrty and feeling a little scared of Rich and the faces and the noises.
Thanks for letting me rant.
Later.
Strummer-man
I had me a vision!
It's step, hip, step, pivot! Are you trying to piss-off the volcano?! |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 16:23:41
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i'm guessing they have roadies galore on this crew
Frank's too busy chilling backstage with his smoked salmon and amstels
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2004 : 16:35:55
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They have their own big crew with them that sets everything up. They come out, rock out, and go out. Cue the roadies.
I guess I just wasn't made for these times. |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
907 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2004 : 07:34:48
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I definitely am the sat-cit-anan-da! And it may be iconoclast to you! To some it is the econoclast.
try this one on for size.
pseudopseudohypoparathyroidism (now that is spelling!)
As far as the Pixies are concerned I still believe that the ticket prices are too high, they are playing venues that are filled with record company types, the rancid stink of nostalgia and wannabe Charles/Chuck/Black/Frank fans. I would have attended a show and swallowed the ticket price if it were in support of a new album. I have the videotape of the Pixies concert at Brixton. Awesome show. They played everything. Maybe seeing them live this many years apart might be a disappointment compared to the video. How shitty would that be for an avid Pixies fan? In short, I know that Frank has so much new material recorded and waiting to be released - just do it already. Ask Spot, Rich, Dave and Dave to forgive his side project and get on with the pragmatic verism.
Strummer-man
I had me a vision!
It's step, hip, step, pivot! Are you trying to piss-off the volcano?! |
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Steak n Sabre
* Dog in the Sand *
Uzbekistan
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Posted - 12/10/2004 : 09:07:25
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I did not think $35 was too bad a deal at all. Besides, I will always support FB.
 The Cult of Frank: It's not the coming of the aliens or anything... |
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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
907 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2004 : 12:41:59
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I think that anything more than $20 is too much for an evening of listening pleasure. Frank has never come to town and had his ticket prices the same range as other medicore price gouging bands.
I think there is a definite danger in supporting someone or something no matter what. Everyone needs to have a reality check once in a while.
Although I know what you mean as I cannot help myself but support the Reds of Liverpool.
Strummer-man
I had me a vision!
It's step, hip, step, pivot! Are you trying to piss-off the volcano?! |
Edited by - BrendanT on 12/10/2004 13:52:57 |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 12/10/2004 : 14:14:50
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people who are seeing the Pixies are seeing them because they want to see the Pixies. i don't think it's a matter of "supporting someone no matter what," but a matter of wanting to see them play.
also, why would Pixies shows be filled with "record company types"? the shows i saw seemed to be uniformly comprised of enthusiastic Pixies fans (i base my judgement on empirical evidence of seeing thousands of kids yelling and screaming)
if it makes you feel better calling people wannabes then so be it. just seems like lame reasoning to me. people who go to shows are "wannabe" Pixies fans? i guess i'm just not following you.
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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kerosene25
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 12/11/2004 : 16:26:40
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Why the fuck do you sound like a critic to me? If you dont wanna go to the show-dont go. If you wanna pay $35 or$135-its up to you. Dont listen to these self-important pices of shit. If its about the music for oyu-then let it be. They are the 'wannabes'. You try so hard to sound like a grown up, that you forgot to grow up.
Go listen to the Datsuns and The white stripes dumbass.
Damn, Its like a contest to see who can 'act' smarter. Fucking Nerds
Tihs is howws yuo sppel !
If Jesus Christ came back today and saw what was being done in his name, he'd never stop throwing up. |
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ijwthstd
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 12/11/2004 : 22:29:43
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
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Posted - 12/12/2004 : 11:48:27
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I want to be in a small club rocking out to the Catholics so bad I can taste it.
But I don't begrudge Charles making some big-tour dough (including the $ I spent on tix and T-shirt), playing some old tunes and having the roadies schlep his equipment.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank |
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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
907 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2004 : 06:18:47
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I don't begrudge him either. The divorce must have hit him hard and this is now his own money.
Wow. People certainly defend the machine.
I have seen The Lowest of the Low ($10), Uncut (free), The Wobblepops(free) and The Next Best Thing (free) for a complete fee (taxes included) of a whopping $10! I think it was the Marble Index from Hamilton who supported alongside the Datsuns in Toronto if that is what you are referring to when you were busy calling me names. I have seen the Marble Index in their hometown. I think I paid $5 because I forgot to bring a can of food! Your right, I can be a dumbass sometimes.
Anyways. I still listen to the Pixies. Does anyone own every greatest hits? They are only going to be next to Rush and Rod Stewart for the most greatest hits albums.
What I meant by wannabes is that each person at a Pixie show wants to learn who Frank Black is and what he has been doing but just don't find the time because they are only interested in what other people tell them is "cool". If the Pixies played a FB&C's song during their set - do you think the majority of the crowd would know that it wasn't the Pixies? Just curious?
Okay, off to grow up.
Strummer-man
I had me a vision!
It's step, hip, step, pivot! Are you trying to piss-off the volcano?! |
Edited by - BrendanT on 12/13/2004 10:55:08 |
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
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Posted - 12/13/2004 : 11:04:02
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i thought the NYC crowd, usually pretty lame, was quite into the show. lots of singing along - the songs that people didn't know the best were some of my favorites, like planet of sound - surprisingly there were very few singing along to that one.
-B-B-B-Brian
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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
907 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2004 : 11:10:52
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That is usually the way with me as well. The songs that people stop pretending that they sound exactly like the act they are imitating usually ends up being my favourite song/s of the show. I can't stand someone singing along and standing directly beside me.
The songs from Trompe would be my favourite as it is my favourite album and not many people would sing along.
Strummer-man
I had me a vision!
It's step, hip, step, pivot! Are you trying to piss-off the volcano?! |
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robotblood
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Posted - 12/13/2004 : 22:57:22
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hey brendant.. while we all have our own set of experiences and such, i can certainly relate to your post. i have been a pixies fan going way way back. never had the chance to see them live, but have attended innumerable fb&c shows over the years. while i certainly can't blame the band for reuniting and making some $$$, i'm not much for the greatest hits things and therefore opted out this time around. call me a downer, but it just feels awkward.. the sing-alongs.. the aging faces.. the predicatability... and yes, the johnny come latelies who listened to critics and avoided fb&c like the plague but push their way to the front row for monkey. i can't imagine attending multiple nights at a venue only to know exactly what setlist to expect.
if the pixies keep it going with a new record in 2005 and plan to appeal to the uber-fan a little more in the live setting, as frank put it, i'm sure i'll make it to a show. but this tour is all about the broad appeal and filling seats. again, i understand why the band would go for the sure thing, but it would have been nice to see them take some chances. |
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mrgrieves1971
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 12/14/2004 : 08:14:00
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Originally posted by robotblood
hey brendant.. while we all have our own set of experiences and such, i can certainly relate to your post. i have been a pixies fan going way way back. never had the chance to see them live, but have attended innumerable fb&c shows over the years. while i certainly can't blame the band for reuniting and making some $$$, i'm not much for the greatest hits things and therefore opted out this time around. call me a downer, but it just feels awkward.. the sing-alongs.. the aging faces.. the predicatability... and yes, the johnny come latelies who listened to critics and avoided fb&c like the plague but push their way to the front row for monkey. i can't imagine attending multiple nights at a venue only to know exactly what setlist to expect.
if the pixies keep it going with a new record in 2005 and plan to appeal to the uber-fan a little more in the live setting, as frank put it, i'm sure i'll make it to a show. but this tour is all about the broad appeal and filling seats. again, i understand why the band would go for the sure thing, but it would have been nice to see them take some chances.
That's odd that you would sit the whole thing out. If you're really a fan, aren't you curious to see them?
Hell, I've hit five shows and travelled across the country for two of them. I got into every show and they all rocked.
Would you turn down sex just because you knew what was going to happen? "ohh jeesh, we're just going to kiss for awhile, then we're going to take off our clothes, blah, blah, blah ... it's just so predictable ..." |
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robotblood
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Posted - 12/14/2004 : 23:21:04
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fair enough question, grieves. first of all, sitting the whole thing out wasn't very hard to pull off. living in new york, this week has been my only chance to see the reunion tour without travelling. yes, if i was offered a ticket at face value for tommorow night, i'd grab it in a second. in fact, i'm seriously considering stopping by the hammerstein that night to see what happens because i am curious. as i stated already, i'm just a little disappointed that this long awaited reunion tour seems to be so deliberate in its direction.. kinda like them playing monkey tonight on letterman.
whatever i decide to do, i don't think it has any direct correlation to whether i am "really a fan" or not. oh, and the sex analogy is pretty good, but would it be the same if you had to pay $42 plus a $11 ticketmaster charge? |
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