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whoreatthedoor
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Spain
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Posted - 12/07/2004 :  05:45:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'll better bring some pot and mushrooms. I don't trust in my sex-appeal possibilities.

<Mantra chant> "Pure and clean, Pure and clean, Pure and clean, Pure and clean..."


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mefa
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Posted - 12/07/2004 :  15:59:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear GypsyDeath

In fact , no contradictions in Qur'an at all . To judge on anything ask people who know it very well . you can ask any question on : www.islam questions & answers.com

And you can go to the translation of the Holy Qur'an by : Abdullah Yosuf Ali on :

www.wam.umd.edu/~stwright/rel/islam/Quran.html" target="_blank">http://www.wam.umd.edu/~stwright/rel/islam/Quran.html


A Selection of some scientific Qur'anic Verses :


A. - On Human Embryological and Fetal Development


[ 23 : 12-16 ] Man We did create from a quintessence (of clay); Then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed; Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create! After that, at length ye will die; Again, on the Day of Judgment, will ye be raised up.


B- [ 22 : 73 ] O men! Here is a parable set forth! listen to it! Those on whom, besides Allah ( God ) , ye call, cannot create (even) a fly, if they all met together for the purpose! and if the fly should snatch away anything from them, they would have no power to release it from the fly. Feeble are those who petition and those whom they petition!


C- On the Water Cycle

[30:48-50] It is Allah Who sends the Winds, and they raise the Clouds: then does He spread them in the sky as He wills, and break them into fragments, until thou seest rain-drops issue from the midst thereof: then when He has made them reach such of his servants as He wills behold, they do rejoice!-

D- On day and night :

36. Glory to Allah, Who created in pairs all things that the earth produces, as well as their own (human) kind and (other) things of which they have no knowledge.
37. And a Sign for them is the Night: We withdraw therefrom the Day, and behold they are plunged in darkness;
38. And the sun runs his course for a period determined for him: that is the decree of (Him), the Exalted in Might, the All-Knowing.
39. And the Moon,- We have measured for her mansions (to traverse) till she returns like the old (and withered) lower part of a date-stalk.
40. It is not permitted to the Sun to catch up the Moon, nor can the Night outstrip the Day: Each (just) swims along in (its own) orbit (according to Law).
E- 59. Say: Praise be to Allah, and Peace on his servants whom He has chosen (for his Message). (Who) is better?- Allah or the false gods they associate (with Him)?
60. Or, Who has created the heavens and the earth, and Who sends you down rain from the sky? Yea, with it We cause to grow well-planted orchards full of beauty of delight: it is not in your power to cause the growth of the trees in them. (Can there be another) god besides Allah. Nay, they are a people who swerve from justice.
61. Or, Who has made the earth firm to live in; made rivers in its midst; set thereon mountains immovable; and made a separating bar between the two bodies of flowing water? (can there be another) god besides Allah. Nay, most of them know not.
62. Or, Who listens to the (soul) distressed when it calls on Him, and Who relieves its suffering, and makes you (mankind) inheritors of the earth? (Can there be another) god besides Allah. Little it is that ye heed!
63. Or, Who guides you through the depths of darkness on land and sea, and Who sends the winds as heralds of glad tidings, going before His Mercy? (Can there be another) god besides Allah.- High is Allah above what they associate with Him!
64. Or, Who originates creation, then repeats it, and who gives you sustenance from heaven and earth? (Can there be another) god besides Allah. Say, "Bring forth your argument, if ye are telling the truth!"
65. Say: None in the heavens or on earth, except Allah, knows what is hidden: nor can they perceive when they shall be raised up (for Judgment).
66. Still less can their knowledge comprehend the Hereafter: Nay, they are in doubt and uncertainty thereanent; nay, they are blind thereunto!
67. The Unbelievers say: "What! when we become dust,- we and our fathers,- shall we really be raised (from the dead)?
68. "It is true we were promised this,- we and our fathers before (us): these are nothing but tales of the ancients."
69. Say: "Go ye through the earth and see what has been the end of those guilty (of sin)."


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Posted - 12/07/2004 :  16:01:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
But can you answer us one question, please? Have you ever heard anything about Frank Black or the Pixies???


i've never done good things
i've never done bad things
i never did anything out of the blue

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mefa
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Posted - 12/08/2004 :  07:36:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's the first time I enter this forum.
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Posted - 12/08/2004 :  07:40:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
But why here? If you're going to answer queries don't pick and chose, why this forum? what is yout point?


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Posted - 12/08/2004 :  07:49:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mefa

It's the first time I enter this forum.



So, you should start listening to some music...
Try the Pixies, itīs very good for the soul!


i've never done good things
i've never done bad things
i never did anything out of the blue

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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 12/08/2004 :  07:53:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
His point is trying to convert people. I bet he searched the web for "Catholics".

I have a nagging feeling that it's not the first time we get Islamic propaganda here. Does anybody else have recollections of that? Or is it only deja-vu?


Pack all my shit, get on a plane
Follow the sunset for 24 hours
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Posted - 12/08/2004 :  07:56:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh dear, I had a feeling it might have been something like that, I wanted him to spit it out though.

Mefa, dude, you're not going to convert people here my friend, we all bow down to the god* of rock and it's about the only thing we ALL agree on...

*please note, lower case g, no inference to actual God/Gods it's a metaphor, sort of




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Posted - 12/08/2004 :  08:02:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you stay a little longer Mefa, maybe we will convert you...


i've never done good things
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 12/08/2004 :  08:05:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Let's get Mefa under the mistletoe ladies!


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Posted - 12/08/2004 :  08:10:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mefa, are you a he or a she?
We need more girls in this forum...


i've never done good things
i've never done bad things
i never did anything out of the blue

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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 12/08/2004 :  08:17:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We have quality over quantity.


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Posted - 12/08/2004 :  08:19:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
smoooooooooooooth


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mun chien andalusia
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Italy
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Posted - 12/08/2004 :  09:10:05  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jediroller



I bet he searched the web for "Catholics".



Pack all my shit, get on a plane
Follow the sunset for 24 hours





hehehe, that would be hilarious. the magic of google.







join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking
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Posted - 12/08/2004 :  10:35:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jediroller

We have quality over quantity.


Pack all my shit, get on a plane
Follow the sunset for 24 hours




Thatīs RIGHT!!!


i've never done good things
i've never done bad things
i never did anything out of the blue

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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <

Spain
2873 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2004 :  11:20:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anyway, I prefer quantity.


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Posted - 12/08/2004 :  11:27:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
whore


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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <

Spain
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Posted - 12/08/2004 :  12:19:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't get me wrong. I do it for free.

A déjā vu.


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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 12/08/2004 :  12:29:44  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mefa

Dear GypsyDeath

In fact , no contradictions in Qur'an at all . To judge on anything ask people who know it very well . you can ask any question on : www.islam questions & answers.com






Mefa -

Thats a large statement to make, considering the overwhelming evidence of the exact opposite. To prove this point, perhaps you could answer some of the contradictions on the site which i posted a link to? This would be very interesting and much appreiciated.

I am not saying that having contradictions is a bad thing, every religion has them - as I mentioned previously - and this is what makes it such a controversial subject - because we are an incredibly suspicious society which wants hard evidence before something is considered fact.

I completely understand the need and want many people have for belonging to a religion, believing in something like that, something which sets their rules and boundaries for them, but for me, (and i think for quite a few people on this forum from what ive heard) its not something i sought after, nor want in my life.

However, i do feel it is important to be aware and know about other cultures and beliefs, and is something which has fascinated me for years. Ive looked fairly extensively in to many religions, before coming to the decision that it is something i do not want to be part of.




Also, mefa do you realise this is a forum for musician Frank Black?



Now I do as I please and lie through my teeth. Someone might get hurt but it won't be me. I should probably feel cheap but I just feel free and a little bit empty. No it isn't so hard to get close to me. There will be no arguments. We will always agree. And I will try and be kind when I ask you to leave. We will both take it easy. But if you stay too long inside my memory, I will trap you in a song tied to a melody and I will keep you there so you can't bother me.
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Posted - 12/08/2004 :  12:42:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whoreatthedoor

Anyway, I prefer quantity.


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I donīt beleive you...thatīs not true!
You weird boy!


i've never done good things
i've never done bad things
i never did anything out of the blue

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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2004 :  13:38:37  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You know what this thread needs?

A party!!!!


"4000 posts I reach/And still not look as good as Dean, hmm?"
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Posted - 12/08/2004 :  15:14:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What about a welcome party to Mefa? And introduce her/him to the band??


i've never done good things
i've never done bad things
i never did anything out of the blue

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LBF1976
= Cult of Ray =

269 Posts

Posted - 12/08/2004 :  15:32:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I searched Google for "Catholics" and this site was the 18th one on the list, it was the on the second page, so yeah, likey this religious freak found us this a way...

I hadn't thought of that connection... you're so smart.

Floops quesedillas zijn te vergelijken met het likken van fatsige Albert's aars nadat hij een fles laxeermiddel heeft leeggedronken.
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <

Spain
2873 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2004 :  00:12:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Selective spam.


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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 12/09/2004 :  01:30:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's entirely our fault, we like pixies and catholics.
If you're searching for people to convert, there's no such things as people talking with enthousiasm about a guru (Frank), Catholics, and leprechaums. That's syncretism!


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So you have no point of reference, Donny.
You're like a child that wanders INTO THE MIDDLE OF A MOVIE!
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 12/09/2004 :  08:42:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There should be a "cooling off" period of at least a week between signing up and being permitted to post.
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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
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Posted - 12/09/2004 :  08:46:09  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I heard Honeycomb is gonna be released under the name Frank Black and the Muslims. And it's all thanks to mefa.


Denis

"I believe in your perfect face..."
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *

Austria
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Posted - 12/09/2004 :  09:56:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
*** BREAKING NEWS ***

Frank Black has just renamed himself to Mohammed Blackus Islam. Read it on islam.org.



I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band
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mefa
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Posted - 12/09/2004 :  20:14:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Gypsydeath :

Firstly , I hope a good life for all people all over the world .

Secondly , I am very very sure that no contradictions in Qur'an .

Allah ( God ) mentions in the second chapter of His last Book to all mankind this challenge :

[ 2 : 2 ] This is the Book; in it is guidance sure, without doubt, to those who fear Allah.

[ 4 : 82 ] Do they not consider the Qur'an (with care)? Had it been from other Than Allah, they would surely have found therein Much discrepancy.

Thirdly , with my respect If your human mind think that there are some contradictions you can mention them but please one by one not a whole site . I will try to help you to correct your misunderstanding Or you can send to :

www.IslamQ&A.com

Best Wishes



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Posted - 12/09/2004 :  20:31:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
mefa dude, why?


Frank Black ate my hamster

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mun chien andalusia
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Italy
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Posted - 12/10/2004 :  02:37:22  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
because probably he's the administrator of www.IslamQ&A.com and probably more hits give him more $. damn spam.


www.frapogal.altervista.org/MISC/CULT1.gif" border="0">join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking
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SpudBoy
= Cult of Ray =

Equatorial Guinea
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Posted - 12/11/2004 :  13:01:30  Show Profile  Visit SpudBoy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Monsieur
Most of all, I hope Mr Spudboy won't misunderstand your statement, otherwise he will cross the ocean just to kick my ass.



Don't worry my friend - I respect you too much to be so reactionary. I know my wife is brilliant, and I try not to be too overzealous in my protective instincts. Merely observant of situations which may require my attention.

You might want to wash that shirt. Looks like you dribbled some of your lunch on it.




*festoon*
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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =

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Posted - 12/11/2004 :  17:12:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
[i]* practically, why is it, that the regimes of countries with islamic foundations are ways more corrupt than "western" countries ?




oooh, i dunno about that one
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
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Posted - 12/15/2004 :  17:02:08  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Come on guys, "As a robotics arm differs from a human arm, so the "hand" of Allah is nothing like a human hand"!!!


So God is a robot? That would explain some things, I suppose.



"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan
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astrology
= Cult of Ray =

Saint Lucia
252 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2004 :  02:32:54  Show Profile  Visit astrology's Homepage  Click to see astrology's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
thank God Frank did not join The Sodomites

I'm a pistolero, i'm not shakin in my boots
I'm the ruler of this moon, if u move I shoots

the bad thing about talkin to inanimate things starts when they start complainin bout it
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