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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
1126 Posts |
 Posted - 01/24/2005 : 18:14:42
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Beautiful song stymie.
5 minutes ago near the end of the long drive back home, I was singing at the top of my lungs with all my might...
"Go find, go find your Saint, go find, go find your saint"
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 01/28/2005 : 19:01:26
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Places Named After Numbers.
(It sure ain't live to 2-Track, but it works) |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 01/28/2005 : 20:23:53
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I'm not, but I recently listened to "New House Of The Pope."
"Reunion? Shit union!" |
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 01/28/2005 : 20:38:10
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Originally posted by VoVat
I'm not, but I recently listened to "New House Of The Pope."
"Reunion? Shit union!"
Oh yeah, I just listened to that after reading your post. One of Frank's bluesiest. Very Nice.
I wonder what that song is about. I know that, according to The Man, the meaning of his songs are always in the lyrics, it's just that many times one must look beyond the literal meaning of the lyrics.
So what is the New House of the Pope? |
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
1126 Posts |
Posted - 01/29/2005 : 04:28:57
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| Is it a river? Is it a bar? Is it a pub? wherever it is he's doing some drinking and dope. |
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 01/29/2005 : 06:05:41
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Originally posted by frank black conspiracy
Is it a river? Is it a bar? Is it a pub? wherever it is he's doing some drinking and dope.
Not so fast, my friend.
"Thirteen big, salty tears. Like 13 little black dogs just born, still in their sacs, about to wake up, ready to howl at the world. There isn't a happy song in this bunch. I mean, maybe "Massif Centrale" has a ray of hope, but even then, I don't know, central France can be really cold and lonely. Maybe "Nadine" is a sexual celebration, but man, I get so sad when I think about her way back when . . ."
-- Frank Black, from his press notes for Show Me Your TeFW
the grain of the album's theme: 13 songs that represent 13 tears shed for the lost loves in Black's life. The piano dirge "New House of the Pope" reaches into the most maudlin chamber of Black's broken heart
[and, from Black Letter Days]
On the song "True Blue," there's this repeated phrase "In a little while." What happens is, in the following line, after "In a little while" the last syllable always is a syllable from that phrase, "in a little while." The music is in reverse too. There's the "A" section, then the "B" section. It goes back to the "A" section, but then the "C" section is really the "B" section played backwards. There's this whole theme in the lyric, what it's all about, and there's a whole frontward and backward kind of thing there. There's one-this is all theoretical-strain of humanity which devolves, if you want to call it that, and returns to the sea, from whence we came. Maybe tens of thousands of years from now, maybe people will hang out more by the seaside and gradually begin this march back to the ocean. The singer of the song is of that strain in the second half, but in the first half the singer is that strain of humanity that moves away not only from where we are on the land, but away from planet Earth. They go up. Up and out as opposed to the other direction. It's just this incredibly overcomplicated neurotic kind of thing. That's just some little ditty on the record, but sometimes that's what you do when you write a ditty. You become consumed by some little game you're playing. It's almost like it's not in your own control. It's happening very quickly.
: The bottom line is, you've got a chord progression and a melody, and you need a lyric. You've got to write about something. Even if you write about nothing. Even if you write a bunch of abstract poetry, you've got to come up with something. If you pursue a subject matter that isn't some kind of crazy game in you brain that's you're going to forget-half the time I don't know what the songs are about, because I'm so consumed by some weird little abstract game in my mind. Five years later, "
As a songwriter, his depth is enormous. I am constantly amazed at the many meanings (apparantly, meanings from the author only limited by my effort to discover them) contained in his songs. |
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JustJeff
- FB Fan -
53 Posts |
Posted - 01/29/2005 : 09:40:41
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Manitoba's been asking for my attention.
I love the horns and rocking outro. |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 01/29/2005 : 10:54:55
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So what is the New House of the Pope?
I'm pretty sure this isn't what Frank had in mind, but thinking about popes brought to mind the Great Schism, which would make Avignon the "new house of the Pope."
"Reunion? Shit union!" |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 01/29/2005 : 12:06:30
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I think the song's about him drinking and bumming and wishing his
relationship weren't falling apart. I'm not big on analyzing lyrics, but this song's
"meaning" seems somewhat obvious in that its title is a direct (and clever) translation of a damned good win e, Châteaune uf-du-Pape.
Meanwhile, listening to "Jane, queen of love" for the tenth time today.
Shepher'ds Bush. Catholics. ROCK!
 I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank |
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kingphilbert
= Cult of Ray =
USA
356 Posts |
Posted - 01/29/2005 : 17:22:58
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Whiskey in Your Shoes
"I mix twinkie's and ding-dong's all the time. In Europe, they call it a Dinkie!" |
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 01/29/2005 : 17:28:22
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Gouge Away (from the Nadine single, live version, with the incredible keyboard solo from Eric for the 1st 1:30 minutes of song. Outta sight!!!)
I thought I would listen to this to get ready for the Pixies on ACL tonight!!! Set your Tivo's and VCR's! |
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ruttentud
- FB Fan -
USA
21 Posts |
Posted - 01/29/2005 : 21:49:37
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Skatealex1
* Dog in the Sand *
1645 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2005 : 21:39:36
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Honeycomb :):):):):) thanks to a special friend from the forum
The Truth Is Out There |
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tobafett
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1713 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2005 : 22:09:00
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right on, oldman...i LOVE that version of gouge!
oh, i'm listenin' to a live recording of "bullet" |
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Cabonga
- FB Fan -
Antigua and Barbuda
53 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2005 : 16:49:39
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black letter days of course
Die Harder |
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SHAZEB ANDLEEB
- FB Fan -
Saint Kitts and Nevis
145 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2005 : 18:42:22
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HERMAPHRODITOS IS MY NAME!!!!!!
hermaphroditos is my name
worship me |
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 02/04/2005 : 22:22:08
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All My Ghosts
No doubt one of the best live-to-2-track songs on the best live-to-2-track album, Frank's guitar in the left ear and Lyle's guitar in the right. Now that's Rock and Roll!
Love the Green Acres theme
And, hey, gotta love "the heavenly angels, ... mating with some ladies ... children were giants..."
Also, the comparison of "the scene of gore"...and "the porno store"...
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
1126 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2005 : 05:28:42
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***acoustic blast off***
this is the first time i've listened to it and i don't know what's better, this or the original.
is that a drum machine i hear frank using instead of a metrononme. ooh, this song is so good. |
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2005 : 21:12:27
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fbc,
Acoustic "Blast Off", one of the best.
I was really suprised when I bought my 2nd copy of DITS [1st one ruined by CD visor]and saw that it contained the 4 extra acoustic tracks. As stated in the liner notes, or somewhere, these were the demo's Frank and Joey made to pitch the album to the record company.
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
1126 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2005 : 02:45:16
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Thanks OldMan, i never knew Joey played on the demos. What an insight.
I hear more than Frank, and the drum machine could just be someone with emaculate timing on the bass drum, but to have guessed it was the joe, makes these songs seem somewhat more magical.
I bought it the day I posted above. Could not contain my excitement. I need to get the others from spinART, but not too sure which ones are available. Took me awhile to track this one down. I know FB&TC includes extra tracks, maybe Pistolero.
Do you know which records have been added to? |
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1467 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2005 : 08:43:38
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Hey, fbc, I've looked here at the song database at FB.net, which has a nice collection of albums, singles, promos, etc...and when you go to the sellection, it states whether there have been additional releases of that same album, and if so, what has been added or changed.
I understand, but I don't have them, that the 1999 Song/Dragnet "Pistolero" from Japan, has "Valley of our Hope" added, and on Amazon and Ebay, I've seen the Japanese import of DITS with Le Cigare Volant as 1 extra track and without the 4 extra acoustic tracks.
I recently acquired Cult of Ray, UK limited edition with an extra CD containing "Village of the Sun", "Baby That's Art", "Everybody Got The Beat", and "Can I get a Witness".
Of course the promos and limited edition imports contain most of the extras, but every once in a while you get lucky, e.g. the re-issue of DITS with the 4 extra acoustic tracks.
I'm sure there are others, and it's really a joy to find them, like you did with DITS. |
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
1126 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2005 : 09:34:05
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Big thanks OldMan.
I got me a few of the promo stuff, but am trying to chase down any album with these little gems on.
I knew of DITS through a thread, but couldn't remember the rest. It's just becasue I love these four acoustic tracks, the backbones to their fully distorted record versions. it's that joy of hearing a new track. Love it.
Will go check out the SD here and see what I can find myself on the net. I got broadband today and this machines flyin'. Shouldn't take too long now. Thanks for the answer to my post. I'll let you know what treasures i uncover. |
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theFILLshow
- FB Fan -
Canada
65 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2005 : 15:22:46
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Blast off. I usually have a dislike for songs over 4 minutes, but this one is quite enjoyable.
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http://ww.hotncold.vzz.com
I'm a man of, constant sorrow.. |
Edited by - theFILLshow on 02/12/2005 15:23:22 |
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
1126 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2005 : 16:32:35
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It's the words in Blast Off i just lub so much
Now, my speakers, they bring to me.....Big Bang Theory |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 02/20/2005 : 10:15:18
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I'm not listening to any songs right now, but I downloaded the Show Me Your Tears outtakes from iTunes last night. Pretty cool stuff.
"Reunion? Shit union!" |
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Cerpintaxt
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Posted - 02/25/2005 : 07:53:17
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1461 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2005 : 14:53:38
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fumanbru is a big fan of fu manchu. the horns are fantastic.
had thalassocracy cracked in the car today. makes your head go pop!
"I joined the Cult of Frank/ and I got a free t-shirt with this dude on it." |
Edited by - fumanbru on 02/25/2005 14:54:18 |
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toeknee
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
281 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2005 : 16:21:22
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"Life is so fine/Then it goes wrooooongg!"
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velvety
= Cult of Ray =
Portugal
536 Posts |
Posted - 02/27/2005 : 03:01:39
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
1126 Posts |
Posted - 02/27/2005 : 04:51:28
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just woke, nearly, and my head is poundin', so to ease the pain, 'My Life Is In Storage'.
my mind's at the bottom of a whiskey bottle. |
Edited by - frank black conspiracy on 02/27/2005 04:51:53 |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 02/27/2005 : 10:00:18
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I've got "Western Star" blasting thru the house on this sunny Sunday morning.
"shining and free"
That's me.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
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1965
= Cult of Ray =
Australia
799 Posts |
Posted - 02/27/2005 : 15:12:52
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Whispering Weeds / just to see what I could see...
** I'll Be Blue, True Blue, Jaina Blues ** |
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sylocibe
- FB Fan -
Spain
49 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2005 : 03:30:36
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itīs not a FB song, but WTF, I canīt stop listening to "Sugar Daddy" ....oh ,and Gouge Away, from the Nadine single, live version with this wonderful keyboard intro.... (it sounds like the intro of B-52īs "Planet Claire")
  ixies Rule |
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endofmiles
- FB Fan -
Switzerland
69 Posts |
Posted - 03/09/2005 : 09:42:10
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I just don't get tired hearing Black Letter Days. What an album!!!
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 03/09/2005 : 16:10:17
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How come this thread is never active when I'm actually listening to a Frank song?
"Reunion? Shit union!" |
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What Frank Song Are You Listening To?
