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BoomChickABoom
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Jamie
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USA
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Posted - 11/27/2004 : 03:58:32
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Unless the babelfish translation is even worse than normal, the article (other than that caption) says nothing about a new Pixies album. I wonder if June 12 is the release date for Honeycomb, and someone got mixed up. I hope not, June is a long ass time. |
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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =
France
2010 Posts |
Posted - 11/27/2004 : 04:17:50
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Just below the pic : "Maybe new songs and a pixies album on june 12th... Should we believe him?"
I guess the writer drew his own conclusions! |
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BoomChickABoom
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Posted - 11/27/2004 : 09:11:45
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I guess the writer drew his own conclusions!
Maybe, but with a precise date, it is weird... |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 11/27/2004 : 11:04:31
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weird shit is what I say
"I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!" |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
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Posted - 11/27/2004 : 14:29:02
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well, that's definately very cool!!!!!!!
PIXIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
it isn't clear whether or not it is new or reissued stuff...that's great news regardless which is the case. plus this is on top of Honeycomb so looks like 2005 will be a stellar release year!!!!!!!!
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Edited by - Daisy Girl on 11/27/2004 23:42:41 |
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CaptainMaximus
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Posted - 11/27/2004 : 15:09:28
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I hope so, though that would seem a little soon, considering everyone at the Pixies camp has been insisting no new material exists. It's in their nature to be cyptic and coy, however.
Bottom line: THE WORLD NEEDS A NEW PIXIES RECORD. RECORDED BY TOM WAITS. IN 2005.
Naysayers be damned. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2004 : 04:45:24
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everyone at the pixies camp? I wouldn't say that errol says there is material
"I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!" |
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neden
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Canada
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Posted - 11/28/2004 : 08:22:53
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Here's an English version by the same author, in the Ottawa XPress (owned by the same company that owns Voir). The critical bit (alluded to in the photo caption of the French version) is at the end where the author says "For a moment, I forgot who I was talking to."
You really need to read the whole thing to understand that interview didn't go very well for the interviewer and he doesn't really believe what he's being told with respect to "new music on June 12th".
I also noticed looking at the XPress article online that the caption for the Pixies photo says "Elegantly Waisted - The Pixies in leaner times". They used the same caption in the print version of the article, but it featured an old picture of the band (ie with smaller waist lines) which makes a lot more sense than the online caption & picture. The more recent picture was used as the cover of this week's XPress.
http://www.ottawaxpress.ca/music/music.aspx?iIDArticle=4848
K.
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *
Australia
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Posted - 11/28/2004 : 10:27:22
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When asked to describe the general ambiance of the tour, and in particular, how he felt about his now re-united band members, Black deadpans, "Fuckin' assholes."
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Every time I speak to Black, I hang up the phone feeling like I've been violated somehow. This time is no exception.
Ha! I love this article already. Here's the whole thing in case the link gets taken down:
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Dusting Off Jamie O'Meara
Elegantly waisted - The Pixies in leaner times (L-R : Deal, Santiago, Black and Lovering)
The Pixies have audiences flying on magical reunion tour
There are only a very few bands that come along and change everything. The Velvet Underground were one of those bands. So was Nirvana. And without a doubt, so were the Pixies. Correction: So are the Pixies.
I've been waiting 12 years to write that.
In 1986, four very different individuals-singer, songwriter and guitarist Charles Thompson (also known as Black Francis, and more recently Frank Black), bassist Kim Deal, drummer David Lovering and guitarist Joey Santiago-came together in Boston and launched a revolution in sound.
Unassuming in their presentation, challenging and often riotous in their writing, Pixies were everything their mid-'80s pop culture contemporaries were not. Rock could be bleak, albeit catchy insurrection as on the debut Come On Pilgrim; rock could be frenzied, sunny Spanish punk as with Surfer Rosa; rock could be seditious, startling pop, as declared on the breakthrough Doolittle. And so on and so forth. The Pixies rarely mistepped, and new albums were greeted with messianic anticipation.
And then Deal's substance abuse became an issue, and writing and record company demands brought inordinate pressure to bear on already strained group relations. Finally, the famous fax from Black to the rest of the band members announcing he'd disbanded the Pixies. That was that.
On the upside, their legacy was to reverberate through a revived, underground indie-rock scene that offered one of the few islands of musical reprieve throughout the '90s. In a certain way, it was like they'd never left. Which is maybe why their startling re-emergence this year seems less as a nostalgia tour and more the logical continuation of an interrupted narrative. It could be argued that the Pixies, as a result of their continued iconization and influence, are as vital now-and possibly more so-as they were in their heyday.
However, when it comes to writing new music, you could wonder if a band with such a charged history and such a storied place in the evolution of alternative and indie music would easily pick up where they left off. Black said published reports indicating the band would go into the studio in January after the tour are false.
"To pick up where we left off is exactly what we should be doing. As opposed to duplicating," says Frank Black over the phone from Chicago, adding that it wasn't so difficult to reacquaint themselves with their considerable catalogue.
"There's a lot of muscle memory involved. When you start getting into things like muscle memory it's sort of away from the plane of analytical thinking, you know what I mean? It's very natural." Which translated into a minimum of prep and rehearsal time for their grand re-emergence. "I was ready to start touring after about three days." The others "were a little more cautious."
When asked to describe the general ambiance of the tour, and in particular, how he felt about his now re-united band members, Black deadpans, "Fuckin' assholes."
So in other words... ? "We're getting along just fine," he says. "I'm kind of bossy, but I mean, I think everyone kind of knows that. But I'm not as bossy as I used to be, probably."
Let's be Frank
Every time I speak to Black, I hang up the phone feeling like I've been violated somehow. This time is no exception. He's in a passive/aggressive frame of mind, letting his longstanding contempt for the interviewing process express itself in terse, clipped replies. As usual, he's trying to make me uncomfortable; as usual, it's working.
Almost inevitably, the process of interviewing Black unfortunately becomes a component of the larger story itself. As he remarked to me once in a 1996 interview, "The press likes to paint grouchy pictures of me. They're always putting me in some sort of light that is not necessarily correct, so there's nothing I can do about it except, maybe, not do interviews, but that just fucks me. I'd sell 20 per cent less records, so I play along. I'm playing along on this one."
At the very beginning of that interview, he held the telephone over the toilet while he took a piss. Perhaps as a means of illustrating how difficult it can be to get Black to participate in a conversation he clearly wants no part of, I offer the following...
XPress I want to go back a bit and talk a little about the possibility of any new music because that obviously is going to be something that a lot of people are interested in. You say you haven't had much time to write because of the tour, but you also had a lot of time prior to the tour to be thinking about new Pixies songs. What direction do you see yourself going in your writing?
Black A good direction.
XPress And that means?
XPress The songs should be... good.
XPress As opposed to?
Black [long pause] ...Hello?
On the three previous occasions that I've spoken to Black, as the solo artist Frank Black, each interview was concluded with the same question: So how about that Pixies reunion? And each of those same questions was greeted with the same answer: "No way, José."
That was his stock reply for everyone. So what was different this time, what brought about this major tectonic shift in thinking? (Pretending for the moment that money-getting paid has always been a major motivator for Black-wasn't the only reason for the rebirth.)
"Oh, I don't... I don't know..."
C'mon.
"I know, I just..."
You've been asked this question dozens and dozens of times.
"Y'know, I don't know," seeming to suddenly relent. A bit. "I don't know really. It just sort of happened. I mean, you know how we got back together, so I could retell you that story, but in terms of what went into it, was there any thinking? No. It was all unconscious."
Big fish to fry
While it isn't a new Pixies album per se, Black recently released Frank Black Francis, a double-disc set featuring early Pixies demos on one CD and a radical reworking of 13 classic Pixies songs on the other. The result-achieved mostly as a result of the participation of U.K. performer/producers Two Pale Boys-is a remarkable, expansive, electro avant-jazz reorganization of mainstays like Where Is My Mind and Caribou complete with trumpet and violin. Sounds like it would have been an enjoyable process. Could have been. Should have been. Uh, Frank, did you have fun?
"Not a lot, actually. I had a fine time hanging out with those guys-the Two Pale Boys-but that was kind of a rough summer, personally speaking. And all I did was sing some couplets down on the microphone, so that was my participation. Those guys, they really did it all. I'm still kind of listening to it, but I like it. I like hearing certain songs kind of framed so spaciously."
Listening to Frank Black Francis lights up a particular part of my brain. There are certain songs that, while stylistically dissimilar, are nonetheless strongly suggestive of Tom Waits, at least in the spirit of the presentation. Waits is someone Black respects. Waits is also someone it has been rumoured that Black has expressed an interest in working with.
"I don't know how much of a possibility that is. I would like it to happen and he seems like the kind of guy who wouldn't do it," he laughs. "He's got bigger fish to fry. He probably has fish to fry literally."
But would you ask? "Yeah sure, I would ask. When I had something to play him."
And I apologize for coming back to this, but do you have a ballpark idea of when people might reasonably expect...
"The 12th."
...new music? The 12th?
"June 12th.
And for a moment I think I know something that no one else does. For a moment I think my persistence has finally born some fruit.
For a moment, I forgot who I was talking to.
Sorry kids, I think The Man is fucking with us again.
Around here, intolerance will not be tolerated |
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ElevatorLady
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 11/28/2004 : 11:44:49
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And I apologize for coming back to this, but do you have a ballpark idea of when people might reasonably expect...
"The 12th."
...new music? The 12th?
"June 12th.
That's fucking funny! I'm really starting to like this guy...
______________________ When in doubt, sqare. |
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CaptainMaximus
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Posted - 11/28/2004 : 17:19:37
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Errol's a member of the band now, huh? LOL. |
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dayanara
* Dog in the Sand *
Australia
1811 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2004 : 17:23:26
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That's right, he is. Isn't it about time we had some more BREAKING NEWS!!!!! Inside info!!! threads that contained no actual news or info?
Errol has let us all down. He needs to start blabbing.
Around here, intolerance will not be tolerated |
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CaptainMaximus
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Posted - 11/28/2004 : 17:24:44
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You know, this isn't the kind of thing I usually remember, but having just read the Pixies Spin article and taking a look at their birthdates (yes, supplied in the article), it just so happens that both Joe and Kim's birthday is in the beginning of June---the 10 and 11th, right in a row. Something like that. Again, not the kind of thing I'd usually notice if the June 12th date hadn't stuck in my head.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 11/28/2004 : 17:31:00
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quote: Originally posted by CaptainMaximus
Bottom line: THE WORLD NEEDS A NEW PIXIES RECORD. RECORDED BY TOM WAITS. IN 2005.
the idea of Tom Waits recording with Frank is genius. but i'm not sure for a Pixies record. would Tom Waits be the right person to produce a Pixies record?
i'd rather see him work with Frank on another Frank Black outing.. it would be interesting to see what they'd come up with.
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2463 Posts |
Posted - 11/29/2004 : 01:49:50
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"He's got bigger fish to fry. He probably has fish to fry, literally."
Classic! |
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Posted - 11/29/2004 : 01:55:07
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quote: Originally posted by CaptainMaximus
You know, this isn't the kind of thing I usually remember, but having just read the Pixies Spin article and taking a look at their birthdates (yes, supplied in the article), it just so happens that both Joe and Kim's birthday is in the beginning of June---the 10 and 11th, right in a row. Something like that. Again, not the kind of thing I'd usually notice if the June 12th date hadn't stuck in my head.
Now that you mentioned their birthdays, I just realised that the Pixies gig in Portugal were on Joey´s birthday, June 11th, I think that nobody remembered that!
Valeu a pena? Tudo vale a pena Se a alma não é pequena.
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 12/05/2004 : 05:43:42
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Anyone else love those interviews where Frank doesn't seem to like the interviewer and/or is demonstrating his contempt for the "interview process"? I like the nice guy informative interviews, too. But the cranky guy interviews are also often good. (But then I also love stories of Frank being rude to fans or not signing autographs so I guess I'm just a jerk who likes other jerks.)
Anyway yes, dayanara speaks wise words. June 12 is likely a joke. He's teasing the interviewer and teasing the question that he's probably sick of hearing.
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guanoaped
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/06/2004 : 13:37:11
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june 12th was when i saw them in dublin |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2004 : 17:19:35
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quote: Originally posted by CaptainMaximus
Errol's a member of the band now, huh? LOL.
I would consider him to be of the pixies camp, in a way yes
"I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!" |
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starmekitten
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/10/2005 : 06:00:24
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At the very beginning of that interview, he held the telephone over the toilet while he took a piss. Perhaps as a means of illustrating how difficult it can be to get Black to participate in a conversation he clearly wants no part of
sorry to ressurect this but for some reason stumbled across this article in my db-info searching and this made me laugh so hard
go frank!
cats have nine lives/ which makes them ideal for experimentation |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2005 : 06:25:51
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This is an old interview, 'twere funny.
"Join the Cult of Frank / Seriously." |
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *
France
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Posted - 03/10/2005 : 06:29:01
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Has anyone considered that he might mean "Honeycomb"? Wasn't that supposed to be released in June? Maybe that's what he meant. "New music from me? June 12th."
Pack all my shit, get on a plane Follow the sunset for 24 hours |
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The New Bolero
= Cult of Ray =
394 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2005 : 08:12:02
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That's not to be taken seriously. It's like that joke about the 12th of never. |
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two reelers
* Dog in the Sand *
Austria
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Posted - 03/10/2005 : 08:35:14
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quote: Originally posted by Jason
Anyone else love those interviews where Frank doesn't seem to like the interviewer and/or is demonstrating his contempt for the "interview process"? I like the nice guy informative interviews, too. But the cranky guy interviews are also often good.
exactly. go and listen to the 2001-08-24 interview for VPRO-radio (fb.net - FTP somewhere). i regularly p**s my pants listening to that.
I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2005 : 10:22:13
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quote: Originally posted by two reelers
quote: Originally posted by Jason
Anyone else love those interviews where Frank doesn't seem to like the interviewer and/or is demonstrating his contempt for the "interview process"? I like the nice guy informative interviews, too. But the cranky guy interviews are also often good.
exactly. go and listen to the 2001-08-24 interview for VPRO-radio (fb.net - FTP somewhere). i regularly p**s my pants listening to that.
I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band
that interviewer is pretty stupid in that interview but at least he tries frank however is just joking question after question
"I joined the cult of Jon Tiven/Bye!" |
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