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kromkamp
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
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 Posted - 02/09/2005 : 11:08:20
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| Still, it's not really about the money. And it was a reunion tour. They've probably made a lot from royalties after they first split, but I'm sure they made much more money on this tour than previous pre-split ones. But, yeah, the fact that Larry The Cable Guy earned more than them is a little bit disturbing. I mean, who on EARTH is that?! |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 02/09/2005 : 12:15:36
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Originally posted by Carl
Still, it's not really about the money.
i wish i could believe that
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
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Posted - 02/09/2005 : 12:47:40
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but money well spent
if ever a band deserved to be 70th
Enjoy the swim frank |
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Posted - 02/09/2005 : 13:19:46
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I don't care if they only did it for the money, they did it very well, and I was able to see them, that's what matters to me.
So this is for when you're feeling happy again
And this is for when you're feeling sad
And this is for when you feel...
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kromkamp
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 02/09/2005 : 13:30:34
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To thier credit, look at the avg ticket price compared to most around them. Kudo's to the Pixies.
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 02/09/2005 : 13:32:36
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
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Posted - 02/09/2005 : 13:37:33
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and I was able to see them, that's what matters to me.
that's all that matters.
I've only seen them once, reunion tour too.
It was my chance to say thankyou more than their chance to make a dollar.
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Posted - 02/09/2005 : 13:44:30
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And I also think that they deserve all the money they can get. There are so many bands earning so much for nothing...
So this is for when you're feeling happy again
And this is for when you're feeling sad
And this is for when you feel...
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ccuadros
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 02/09/2005 : 16:14:37
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Yeah....I agree with Rita...they deserve each dollar that they earned....and a lot more.
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 02/09/2005 : 17:20:30
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Originally posted by Carl
Still, it's not really about the money.
Umm, I hate to say it, but, yeah it was.
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mammynuns
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Posted - 02/09/2005 : 20:16:18
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
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Posted - 02/09/2005 : 20:18:21
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Yeah, you got to give em props. They could have charged way more for the the tix and that would have bumped em up. Remember ebay? But they cared enough for the fans to keep things at a reasonable price.
Hopefully there are many other tours to come-- as Pixies and side projects.
Plus there are a lot of really cool acts under the Pixies. Ever hear of Neil Young?
Thanks again Pixies and in all our hearts, you're number 1!!
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Posted - 02/09/2005 : 23:45:40
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Originally posted by Carl
Still, it's not really about the money.
i wish i could believe that
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee!
Tony, I think I understand what you're saying, but can you explain it?
So this is for when you're feeling happy again
And this is for when you're feeling sad
And this is for when you feel...
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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =
Wallis and Futuna Islands
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Posted - 02/10/2005 : 00:12:44
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I'm surprised to see comments "it's about the money"...
Don't you think that Frank's reasonable intelligence (mildly put) could have helped him figure out a lot sooner that he could just use his creative genius to write only repetitive bubblegum style catchy chart-toppers for some pop stars to make a lot of money.
I agree that some decisions had been taken from the financial perspective, too (like Monkey on Letterman) and I'm not saying who made them (maybe a collective consensus), but saying it's all about the money IMO would be wrong and a bit insulting. I've been to the gig, listened to the crowd pleasers too, but never doubted that they (the band) were true in what they do.
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frarosano
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Posted - 02/10/2005 : 00:29:42
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only 270.000 see the usa tour??
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you'll think i'm dead, but i sail away
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ElevatorLady
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 02/10/2005 : 05:40:53
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That's a good point tisasawath. There are so many better ways to make money, if that's what you're about.
And it's true that the ticket price was really low, and the shows were excellent!
I can't understand why making money is such a bad thing all of a sudden. If I wanted to download a Frank Black album for free you guys would completely freak out and expel me from this forum on the spot if not worse (I see torches and stakes...). Isn't it all about music? What matters is that I hear the music, pay or no pay, money is not important, eh?
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frank black conspiracy
~ Abstract Brain ~
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Posted - 02/10/2005 : 13:06:33
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Originally posted by tisasawath
I'm surprised to see comments "it's about the money"...
Don't you think that Frank's reasonable intelligence (mildly put) could have helped him figure out a lot sooner that he could just use his creative genius to write only repetitive bubblegum style catchy chart-toppers for some pop stars to make a lot of money.
But do you really think this was an option for FB?
He may aswell give us TOTY2, that would fly out the window.
But to write shitty-I-couldn't-care-less-songs for a buck or two, I just don't see it. He's never done it before so why start now?
I beleive Frank knows the Pixies have a far bigger fan base for their music rather than his. If it wasn't for the money, then why the same old songs, why have we had threads about them looking bored on stage (especially fb)?
Where i'm confused is, frank has done so much and changed since the Pixie days, why did he feel a need to revisit the past? Fair enough, play a few of the old songs he wrote all those years ago without the Ps, but reuniting the band and then playing oldies? Not a crowd pleaser if they knew the reasons half the and most loyal fans were there.
And elevatorLady, so many have HC that's straight from the internet and they're still here. Chatting about it openly. I know what you mean but no such fate would ever be bestowed upon you. I think the general feel is, and I could be wrong, that Frank makes the songs we listen too. If he can't afford to write, no music for us. He's not like a label band with a stupid figure deal to record x amount of records. It's from his own pocket. So now and again it's up to the fans of his music to pay both their respect and the price of the record to keep things ticking over and to keep the man at work. A price I think we're all willing to pay. |
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tisasawath
= Cult of Ray =
Wallis and Futuna Islands
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Posted - 02/10/2005 : 14:04:24
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why have we had threads about them looking bored on stage (especially fb)?
I don't recall those. But I still remember reading Frank's comments from last year about having forgotten how good the Pixies really were (or something like it) and I remember how they smiled during and after the gig.
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frank black conspiracy
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Posted - 02/10/2005 : 14:22:02
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sorry tisasaw, i meant threads which included posts about the bands chemistry on stage. Not actual threads about this subject.
i bet frank and the rest of the band are having the times of their lives, and when I saw them live they were smiley-ish, too.
Fuck the money (wa'hoo! we got ten million do-llars! we got ten million do-llars!)
Frank may have remembered how good the Pixies were, but that's not a reason and the reason for the reunion.
Maybe he forgot because he never really thought about it.
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The Champ
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
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Posted - 02/10/2005 : 16:20:42
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
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Posted - 02/10/2005 : 19:19:08
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It's not about the money. It's not about the fans. It's about the Aliens. Remember???
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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 02/10/2005 : 21:44:23
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| The idea that money was probably the main (not the only) motivation behind the Pixies reuniting doesn't really bother me at all. I agree that they deserve every penny - besides, it's not like their regular setlist was made up of songs from their multi-platinum smash album that we never heard. It's the fans that made the reunion as successful as it was, not focus groups and massive PR campaigns. Anyway, I wonder how much money each Pixie will net after the crew members are paid and the taxes are collected. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 02/10/2005 : 21:55:23
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Originally posted by rita
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Originally posted by floop
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Originally posted by Carl
Still, it's not really about the money.
i wish i could believe that
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee!
Tony, I think I understand what you're saying, but can you explain it?
So this is for when you're feeling happy again
And this is for when you're feeling sad
And this is for when you feel...
Something
are you serious? i think it's pretty clear what i'm saying..
i'm not saying anything is wrong with it either. but, for the sake of arguing "why they did it" i would say money is at the absolute top of the list.
Frank even said so himself in so many words (that the decision to do so had a lot to do with the financial aspect)
again, i'm not saying it's wrong. i'm just saying that anyone who doesn't think that the money was the biggest draw is probably off the mark.
but, we've already discussed this a million times
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 00:00:29
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Thank you Tony, that's what I thought, but with your first sentence you could be misunderstood.
So this is for when you're feeling happy again
And this is for when you're feeling sad
And this is for when you feel...
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 14:46:08
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I'm glad they got the big bucks.
Who really cares about money anyway? Those who don't have it? I don't have much, and I really don't care...I'm just trying to make a sensible connection between an artist promoting his wares and the dogs that bite the hand.
If there is anyone suffering from this absurd monetary morality circling the PIXIES reunion who paid to see them anyway (despite said syndrome) are just plain silly and deserve to be dissapointed.
I'm not saying anyone here feels like that, but....
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kathryn
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Posted - 02/11/2005 : 19:17:07
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The more money in Frank's pocket, the more music he can make his own way.
Bring on the Catholics!
 I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank |
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stymie
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 02/14/2005 : 15:45:05
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| That show that I saw a the fine line cafe was worth every penny that i paid. Although , probly would see them again unless they switch up their setlist. Bring on the honeycomb tour. That's what I'm waiting for! |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 02/14/2005 : 16:13:32
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The Pixies average ticket price is about the same as John Mayer's.
 "Anything Dave Matthews can do, John Mayer can do worse" |
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =
Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
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Posted - 03/04/2005 : 23:54:38
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Originally posted by tisasawath
I'm surprised to see comments "it's about the money"...
Don't you think that Frank's reasonable intelligence (mildly put) could have helped him figure out a lot sooner that he could just use his creative genius to write only repetitive bubblegum style catchy chart-toppers for some pop stars to make a lot of money.
I agree that some decisions had been taken from the financial perspective, too (like Monkey on Letterman) and I'm not saying who made them (maybe a collective consensus), but saying it's all about the money IMO would be wrong and a bit insulting. I've been to the gig, listened to the crowd pleasers too, but never doubted that they (the band) were true in what they do.
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talking about music is like dancing about architecture - Frank..
This has probably been thoroughly discussed, but the concept of Frank doing something shitty for money is entirely separate from that of doing something non-shitty for money.
In my opinion, this is what has happened:
Charles Thompson made the sovereign decision to stop exhibiting one of his more popular art collections back in 1992, when its renown was just gaining steam. He went off in a new direction, was met with comparisons to previous collections, and was largely critically panned. A few years down the road he began to feel nostalgic about his older work, and would bring it out for a public glimpse now and then.
By this time it had never occurred to him that a considerable mass of folks might still be jonesing for his now 10+ year old art pieces, but as the intangible buzz appeared to be growing, he began to realize that to retrieve his old art from the attic for another round just might garner some mutual benefit (for him and his connoisseurs). But possibly most important of all was the realization, "Damn, if I merely dust off some of my former works and make the rounds once more, I could seriously make a ton of dough and (possibly?) help a few of my pals fill in the financial gaps in the process?"
That's honestly the way I've seen things occurring. He's re-exhibiting to his loyal original--and a completely new--appreciative audience, but actually reaping the fiscal benefits while he's alive. It's something few artists of his caliber have ever been able to accomplish. So from my perspective, a genuine kudos is due.
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"One is sometimes tempted to wish that the superlative could be abolished, or its use allowed only to old experts. What are men to do when they get to heaven, after having exhausted their vocabulary of admiration on earth?"
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anazgnos
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USA
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Posted - 03/05/2005 : 10:46:19
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Take that, The Wiggles!
That tally only counts 74 shows, the fall US tour. it looks like. Consider that the figure of $9.5mil doesn't take into consideration the absolutely stupid money they must have raked in at the Euro festivals and...then there's the merch and Disclive money...and, yeah. Some of my favorite musicians in the world are now very, very rich. |
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shineoftheever
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Posted - 03/05/2005 : 13:02:46
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i spent about $250 in pixies tix/merch/cd's last year, woth every penny.
You can go eat a decroded piece of crap! |
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porkbone1
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 03/13/2005 : 16:54:31
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Yeah, I think I spent about $600 in Pixies tickets, t-shirts, and disclive CDs last year. Not to mention the money I poured into the local economies of Winnipeg, Manitoba and St. Paul, Minnesota! I think anazgnos is right, the 9.5M figure is only for ticket income. The actual number is probably higher.
I hope they can do even better this year! I've got another $600 buring a hole in my pocket!
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Pixies made a cool $10M last year
