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spunXtain
= Cult of Ray =
USA
377 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2004 : 17:52:43
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The Beatles were cool when they wore the black suits, had the black hair and appeared on the Ed Sullivan show!
But then a few years later they grew their hair out,, got mustaches, glasses.. and each took a look of his own.
After that, the Beatles suck. They didn't have the same "clean cut" image anymore. They looked like a bunch of damn pot smoking hippies. To me, they weren't even the same BAND anymore.
WHY did they change? And any opinions on this.
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-
USA
5155 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2004 : 17:53:21
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i totally disagree. the early beatles were cool, but its the late beatles that really do it for me. the white album is perfect
-brian
- "I joined the Cult of Frank / And they tried to cut off my nuts and make me put on a blue jumpsuit"
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -
USA
1728 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2004 : 19:01:10
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It does not matter what they looked like. What matters is the music they created. I prefer their later stuff by a landslide. The White Album should kick your ass, damnit.
"Freedom is a state of mind and the condition and position of your ass. Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Funkadelic |
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1615 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2004 : 19:14:50
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They changed with the times.
"Our Love is Rice and Beans and Horses Lard" |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2004 : 20:27:04
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The funny suits were record company marketing. They had leather jackets and greasy hair before that. With commercial success and maturity, they were able to be themselves. Experience and hard work made them better musicians and songwriters, which is when the truly great albums were made (Rubber Soul onwards, IMHO). |
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1186 Posts |
Posted - 10/13/2004 : 20:28:57
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Image-wise, I found they cared less and less as time went along. Originally they started out with greaser hair and leather jackets, mind you. After that they went on to the suits. They still played around with their image (i.e. Sgt. Pepper's, etc.) but beyond that, they focused much more on their music and it paid off. I think the Beatles were the best rock band ever. Their body of work should speak for itself. I grew up with the White album, but I didn't really recognize their genius until I got to college. Similar to the Pixies, a lot of musicians today will never really grasp how much the Beatles have influenced their tastes. Within the last couple of years I started listening to them very, very, very closely. I also started digging into their history and chronology (both within their music, and how it related to other music at the time). They broke so much ground with damn near every thing they did. I'm still floored by everything they did. Their earlier albums were much more poppy, with many covers, etc. But even in those they were amazingly articulate with their harmonies and arrangements. And I've been playing guitar for over ten years (which, granted,isn't that long in the grand scheme of things) but I still have tremendous trouble wrapping my mind (and hands) around the chords they would use. They just aren't natural. But they worked. They worked beautifully. And that from a band that drove to the opposite end of London just to learn B7. And a lot of bands today could learn a thing or two from they way they cranked their albums out. Frank has often spoken of how bands would put out two albums a year back in the early days of Rock & Roll. The Beatles did it without comprimising the quality of their albums. I dunno. It's all kick ass to me. I'm hoping spunXtain was being sarcastic. If not, that's okay. The suits look was pretty cool. |
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cassandra is
> Teenager of the Year <
France
4233 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2004 : 01:55:57
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I agree with Broken Face
pas de bras pas de chocolat |
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cindy lou
- FB Fan -
141 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2004 : 02:13:34
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this is a funny thread! i think somebodyistakingthepiss. oh well... |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2004 : 03:54:10
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I listened to please please me and with the beatles
I don't like those albums, I don't see the whole genius part of it
When I listen to Sgt.Pepper or the White Album, well..... I'm on fire!
"I joined the Cult of Serge/'Cause he invented indierock before Frank did" |
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =
USA
925 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2004 : 05:49:15
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frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
895 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2004 : 06:01:53
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quote: Originally posted by spunXtain
After that, the Beatles suck. They didn't have the same "clean cut" image anymore. They looked like a bunch of damn pot smoking hippies. To me, they weren't even the same BAND anymore.
...you wouldnt happen to be in the military would you? |
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Domestiques
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
503 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2004 : 09:15:38
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rubber soul is untouchable, as is everything that followed, it was the sound of a pop band experimenting and pushing back boundaries. Like westlife releasing the most exciting record you had heard in your life.
------------------------ “I want to be a star!” I cried They said, “You’re overqualified. Why don’t you learn to tune your damn guitar?” |
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LBF1976
= Cult of Ray =
269 Posts |
Posted - 10/14/2004 : 10:58:29
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I like John Lennon's solo stuff more than most beatles songs...
Floops quesedillas zijn te vergelijken met het likken van fatsige Albert's aars nadat hij een fles laxeermiddel heeft leeggedronken. |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2004 : 11:59:30
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quote: ...you wouldnt happen to be in the military would you
Maybe he's serving under Sgt. Pepper.
"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan |
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Posted - 10/16/2004 : 12:35:36
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very, very droll
*bites tongue*
you are so pretty when you're on your knees disenfected eager to please
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
1446 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2004 : 12:49:25
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I love the early Beatles, too. If I had to pick one, my favorite Beatles album might be the At the BBC thing from 10 years or so ago, but the truth is that I like all Beatles eras/records equally. The Beatles changed because they followed the trends, but in a good way. They were interesting trends. And we (or at least I) don't hold that against them because the songs are so good.
The only thing that bothers me about the early Beatles doesn't have anything to do with them. I don't like the idea some people have that pre-Beatles early 60s pop was no good. The early 60s ruled. The early Beatles are just one example of some of the fun music of that era. |
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Posted - 10/16/2004 : 18:26:30
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***bite's tongue harder***
***glorified***boy***band***over***rated***
aaargh I said it
you are so pretty when you're on your knees disenfected eager to please
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2004 : 23:14:57
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Ohhh, I forgot Tre. Your the ninny that thinks The Beatles are overrated. Carry on. |
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Posted - 10/16/2004 : 23:37:00
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Ninny?
Have you been watching those T.V. programs with cheeky-chappy Brit types on them?
you are so pretty when you're on your knees disenfected eager to please
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 10/16/2004 : 23:48:23
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quote: Originally posted by Tre
Ninny?
Have you been watching those T.V. programs with cheeky-chappy Brit types on them?
you are so pretty when you're on your knees disenfected eager to please
I originally wrote "nimrod" but toned it down because I know you're a dainty flower who easily whithers when insulted.
Your up awfully late, aren't you? |
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Posted - 10/16/2004 : 23:56:50
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Or early depending on how you look at it, but as it happens, I've not actually slept. I've mentioned it before but I don't ever really sleep, if I get a few hours every other night it's good going.
Ha ha, yes, I am a sweet little angel and words of such a coarse and brash manner would have mightily offended my delicate feminine nature, I might have blushed or fainted and that is most unbecoming and unladylike.
Or I'd have set Auntie Chub onto you
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Brackish Heart
- FB Fan -
Australia
176 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2004 : 07:43:02
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I find the change in Beatles records the most amazing change from any band in such a small space of time...albums from 1964 A Hard Day's Night and Beatles For Sale than in three years there was Sgt Peppers/Magical Mystery Tour stuff....intimate literal ostensibly sincere love songs to outrageously abstract compositions many without any emotive element to them at all...surely it couldnt just be the drugs...Its amazing to note that all there work was done in 8 years...though now that im thinking Pixies knocked over 50 classic songs in 4 years..Beatles did a bit over a 100 brilliant tracks (discounting covers) in 8 years so they are about at the same strike rate...though i find most Beatles albums have at least 3-4 tracks that are noticiably inferior to the rest of the album - when you release 2 albums a year for the most part probably not hard to see why |
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GypsyDeath
Zapped Profile
3575 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2004 : 07:45:31
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quote: Originally posted by Tre
Or early depending on how you look at it, but as it happens, I've not actually slept. I've mentioned it before but I don't ever really sleep, if I get a few hours every other night it's good going.
Ah, Fellow insomniac. I am pretty much exactly the same. At least you have something to do for hours. I usually read, play guitar, or get very drunk. Not too bad at the moment. I usually have spouts of it here and there, when im stressed and stuff.
God forbid I exude confidence and enjoy sex |
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Posted - 10/17/2004 : 11:49:24
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haha, I don't just sit at the computer you know, I do study and stuff
love like you've never been burned work like you don't need the money dance like there's nobody watching kiss like your tongue is on fire suck like you don't need the money sin like there's nobody judging
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2004 : 12:10:19
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quote: I originally wrote "nimrod" but toned it down because I know you're a dainty flower who easily whithers when insulted.
And because she's hardly a mighty hunger before the Lord.
"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan |
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Posted - 10/17/2004 : 12:14:26
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yes, but she's the cats mother, mister
love like you've never been burned work like you don't need the money dance like there's nobody watching kiss like your tongue is on fire suck like you don't need the money sin like there's nobody judging
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 10/18/2004 : 14:29:29
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But not the cat's pajamas?
"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 10/18/2004 : 14:33:28
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Nope, but definitely the cat's meow.
__________ "The things that will destroy us are: politics without principle; pleasure without conscience; wealth without work; knowledge without character; business without morality; science without humanity, and worship without sacrifice." |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 10/20/2004 : 17:19:04
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What about the cat's hairballs? :P
"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan |
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4894 Posts |
Posted - 10/20/2004 : 19:32:52
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how very rude!
Frank Black ate my hamster |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 10/20/2004 : 20:23:41
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(sarcastic voice) smite those darn hippies to hell. they should all be burned at the stake. what with their antiwar sentiment, free love, pacchouli, flower power and psychedelic drugs.
what happened to the beatles? Well aliens in the form of tiny fleas invated their ear canals and then mutiplied in their brains and took over with the hippy vibe. It was all down hill from there.
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -
USA
1728 Posts |
Posted - 10/21/2004 : 12:10:47
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I think the Magical Mystery Tour is very under-rated. That has a lot of really great songs. "Blue Jay Way" always gets me with those flanged drums. I think Ringo really shines on that track.
"Freedom is a state of mind and the condition and position of your ass. Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Funkadelic |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 10/21/2004 : 12:18:28
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I totally agree crouty, Blue Jay Way is really groovy. Baby you're a rich man is one of my faves too.
__________ "The things that will destroy us are: politics without principle; pleasure without conscience; wealth without work; knowledge without character; business without morality; science without humanity, and worship without sacrifice." |
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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1186 Posts |
Posted - 10/21/2004 : 14:31:09
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I haven't hit that album as hard as the others, and really need to. Good thing I've got one of these fancy iPods with all their songs in my pocket right now. I can be listening to it in a matter of seconds. Ah, instant gratification. Yeah, that album rocks. I really like how, from Rubber Soul til the end, in the right setting, I can easily say "My God, this is the best album ever made!" to each one of those albums. It's neat. |
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1342 Posts |
Posted - 10/21/2004 : 14:34:18
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"She Came In Through The Bathroom Window"...now that's a great song. I can totally see FB covering it.
1. I am a fsh with no i's. 2. You must be wearing Zubaz, 'cause you're daring to be different. 3. I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb. |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 10/21/2004 : 14:51:10
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Yeah.
Someone else said it before and its so true how well Golden Slumbers leads into Carry that Weight on Abbey Road.
__________ "The things that will destroy us are: politics without principle; pleasure without conscience; wealth without work; knowledge without character; business without morality; science without humanity, and worship without sacrifice." |
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