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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =

USA
347 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2004 :  06:43:20  Show Profile
bye

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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-

USA
5155 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2004 :  07:36:22  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage
wow! thanks jon - my record is in the mail (had to go amazon, as i do not have a local record shoppe that carries it)

-brian


- "I joined the Cult of Frank / And they tried to cut off my nuts and make me put on a blue jumpsuit"
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2004 :  09:01:02  Show Profile
thanks. i'm not going to buy an album becasue you told me to. but i appreciate the update.



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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2004 :  14:53:52  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
thanks for the update
I will buy the album
if ellis can grab me
so far I only saw one official mp3
maybe I'll download it
hehe
just kidding

"I joined the Cult of Serge/'Cause he invented indierock before Frank did"
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blarg007
= Cult of Ray =

USA
493 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2004 :  16:32:21  Show Profile
it's funny I was just thinking about FB in Nashville as I was meditating in an attempt to
refresh and listen to a Bob James record I could never get through (didn't make it this time either) musings and questions like: what was the impetus behind the Honeycomb project?
why no Catholics etc.
It was just yesterday that I was trying via this snailspeed connection to piece together what it's
all about and I came across Jon's words which pretty much sets it straight -at one time I thought Honeycomb was a Catholics project of some kind though apparantly Lyle Workman is involved?
(isn't he doing or done work with Beck??)
So anyway rampant ignorance on my part as I have
only breezed through here the past few months.
I just wanted to thank J. Tivens for the info as it is most fascinating to us fans and hearing recent updates is a treat indeed -I'm gonna check
out the Ellis disc when I hit the stores looking for FB's upcoming release very soon here.
And my bonus musicians guess would include Dave
Phillips and Scott Boutier (what the heck).
After all haven't they done a '24 hr' session
or two with Frank before??

blrg

Edited by - blarg007 on 10/09/2004 16:33:57
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OldManInaCoffeeCan
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1467 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2004 :  16:46:13  Show Profile
Jon,

Thanks for the delicious beans you've just spilled for us. Keep 'em coming. I could eat this stuff forever.

Are you kidding me? Of course I'll go buy the Ellis Hooks album UNCOMPLICATED. I'm one of the rare non-musicians that live in Nashville and I'll be glad to go to one of your favorite record stores here if you have one, or if not, I'll get it at Tower or Borders Books on West End.

You have been, and continue to be, so very generous with all of your updates. We really appreciate it.

What a great experience you're having working with The Man. It is realy fascinating to follow.

Please let us know when The Man is back in town. Wouldn't it be special if he showcased some of the Honeycomb material at the Station Inn, 3rd and Lindsey, or the Bluebird? It would really make a great Christmas present or one helluva way to start out the new year.

Thanks again, and I'll let you know which songs on UNCOMLICATED are my favorite soon.


OldManInaCoffeeCan

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blarg007
= Cult of Ray =

USA
493 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2004 :  16:48:54  Show Profile
= The Man =-


USA
80 Posts
Posted - 10/08/2004 : 16:19:36

did another session in nashville the other night. cropper was there. he is an awesome
player and an awesome person. also bob babbit...ian maclegan...mark t jordan....levon
helm...yes...levon helm...duane jarvis...tom pederson...billy block...simon kirk...lyle
workman...my apologies if i've mispelled names here...who else?????....

frnck blck
-= The Man =-


USA
80 Posts
Posted - 10/08/2004 : 16:21:38

oh i should mention that five of the songs were co-written by mr. reid paley...

DUH...sorry about the lamo cut and paste but this pretty much fills in a few blanks also...
-at this point i don't know what I would ask him
other than why he doesn't come to Chicago and do a
30 day run of solo shows at the Chicago theatre
and hang out at Dannys' after hours discussing a film
of tour / recording session with the Catholics.

I'm jus'sayin'

blrgl

Edited by - blarg007 on 10/09/2004 16:50:45
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leica
- FB Fan -

USA
74 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2004 :  18:38:36  Show Profile
Funny you mentioned the Ellis album. I went shopping for it today, could not find it in my little indie music store here. Will order from Amazon. Hope that helps y'all out Soundscan wise.

Now off to read your original post-
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leica
- FB Fan -

USA
74 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2004 :  18:47:17  Show Profile
Wow what a great update Mr Tiven, thank you! What an amazing job it must've been to put this all in place and then watch it come together.
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frankblackphx
= Cult of Ray =

USA
287 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2004 :  22:58:15  Show Profile  Visit frankblackphx's Homepage
Thanks for the update Jon.

Can't wait to hear more about the sessions with Frank. I am really loving Honeycomb. Incredible songs and recording.

As a side note, I enjoyed "Uncomplicated" so much I went and hunted down Ellis Hooks first album today "Up Your Mind". Can't wait to listen to it tonight.

Thanks again Jon.

Dan

I got me so down I got me a headache.
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
1594 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2004 :  23:07:25  Show Profile  Visit hammerhands's Homepage
Levon Helm! Wow.

This info should get collected and added to the database. It's beautiful, thank you.

When I saw the Pixies were playing the Ryman I searched frantically for a still from the DVD documentary of Lenny Breau where he is walking on to Broadway by the side door. That's a huge big deal to me, I specifically searched out that angle when I was there (it hasn't changed an iota). I recently bought the album Hallmark Sessions by Breau and guess who the drummer is! 43 years later and still ass-kicking I'm sure.

(Everyone loves The Last Waltz)
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
2463 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2004 :  03:21:52  Show Profile
In the UK, 'Uncomplicated' is only available on import from Amazon. Hmm...
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-

USA
5155 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2004 :  05:22:58  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage
In Europe its known as "The Hand of God"

-brian


- "I joined the Cult of Frank / And they tried to cut off my nuts and make me put on a blue jumpsuit"
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Avid-Fan
- FB Fan -

100 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2004 :  05:31:17  Show Profile
Firstly: many thanks for the info JT!
2ndly: getting Uncomplicated is a little complicated being a Southern Hemisphere person, will Amazon suffice soundscan wise?
3. I would love to hear the Honeycomb sessions, but don't know if my brain is gonna handle waiting five mths for the official release though, the pain, the pain...
IV. would also love to know what new track/s were recorded in the new session, awaiting your update No.2

(( I talk plain talk ))
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =

USA
347 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2004 :  07:02:55  Show Profile
bye.

Edited by - Jontiven on 10/19/2004 15:09:29
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Broken Face
-= Forum Pistolero =-

USA
5155 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2004 :  09:14:02  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage
re: ellis hooks, i enjoyed the first listen of the record, have to investigate deeper w/ some headphones one of these days. i can't wait to hear levon helm playing the skins for FB. wow. these sessions sound great. mr. tiven, pray tell, can you reveal the tracklisting for the 24 hour session?

-brian


- "I joined the Cult of Frank / And they tried to cut off my nuts and make me put on a blue jumpsuit"
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switchy
- Gigographer -

USA
324 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2004 :  09:46:45  Show Profile  Visit switchy's Homepage
Thanks for all the info, Jon! Can't wait to hear the songs.

Here're handy Amazon links for people..


Ellis Hooks - Uncomplicated (Amazon.com)



Ellis Hooks - The Hand of God (Amazon.co.uk)
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2004 :  10:04:56  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
Very very cool! Really.

Thanks for the recording bio, this is a great read for all of us.


"Join the Cult of Frank 2.0 / And you'll be enlightened (free for 1.x members)"
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2004 :  10:37:09  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
maybe we could archive all his posts


"I joined the Cult of Serge/'Cause he invented indierock before Frank did"
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soundofataris
= Cult of Ray =

USA
715 Posts

Posted - 10/10/2004 :  16:04:25  Show Profile
Lyle is good news

the sound of ataris kills me and my friends
'cause we know that we'll never go back there again
sometimes we play playstation
but it's not the same
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-

France
2715 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2004 :  00:11:00  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage
Thanks Jon. I'll buy 'Uncomplicated' - not because you want us to, but because the samples I heard do indeed sound great.
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cindy lou
- FB Fan -

141 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2004 :  02:27:09  Show Profile
i won't be buyin g "uncomplicated" as it ain't "my cup of tea" but i do enjoy your blackmail-bribe.

take care everyone
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =

USA
347 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2004 :  09:46:45  Show Profile
bye

Edited by - Jontiven on 10/19/2004 15:10:07
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cindy lou
- FB Fan -

141 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2004 :  09:53:37  Show Profile
i have checked out ELLIS HOOKS work on a few occasions and havn't yet gotten hooked. i do appreciate your posts! i was just being silly.
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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1734 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2004 :  10:23:30  Show Profile
Jon, I appreciate so much you come here and post such long descriptions of your work with Frank. That and you wanting us to try Ellis Hook is a proof that you love what you're doing.

Have you already post a link where we could listen to some bits of Ellis's music?

And a FB related question, how did you get to know him ? What did you knew about him or the Pixies before you started working together on the tribute album?

***********************************************
So you have no point of reference, Donny.
You're like a child that wanders INTO THE MIDDLE OF A MOVIE!
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cindy lou
- FB Fan -

141 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2004 :  10:28:58  Show Profile
i feel bad! no more drunk posting for me... untill next time... my apologies.
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Zsolt G.
- FB Fan -

117 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2004 :  11:14:51  Show Profile
Thanks for the infos Mr. Tiven, I'm currently unemployed and as such can't support the Ellis Hooks campaign, but the Otis Blackwell tribute record was great. Really one of the best "tribute" records I can remember really. If I might ask... What was the inspiration for the short recording session? Is it to foster sponteneity in the music? Or is it a nostalgic nod towards Nashville records of the past that were knocked out raw and quickly but became definative classics regardless? Maybe I answered my own question. Also. The most intruiging bit I got from Franks appearance here on the forum was his mention of playing a classical piece during the sessions. That sounds really "out there." Is this seriously being considered as part of the record or was it just horsing around? I'm thinking it's something like the Erik Satie suite by Blood, Sweat and Tears or something. Sounds exciting either way. Hope we get to hear these sessions along with Honeycomb! Thanks again, and when I get some scratch together I'll be sure to check out Ellis.
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =

USA
347 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2004 :  12:11:06  Show Profile
bye

Edited by - Jontiven on 10/19/2004 15:10:47
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-

France
2715 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2004 :  12:46:07  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by remig

Jon, I appreciate so much you come here and post such long descriptions of your work with Frank. That and you wanting us to try Ellis Hook is a proof that you love what you're doing.

Have you already post a link where we could listen to some bits of Ellis's music?

And a FB related question, how did you get to know him ? What did you knew about him or the Pixies before you started working together on the tribute album?



Good question. All I know is that JT produced some TOTY b-sides in late '93 or early '94. I guess that's how FB got involved in the tribute album.
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Jontiven
= Cult of Ray =

USA
347 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2004 :  13:18:31  Show Profile
bye

Edited by - Jontiven on 10/19/2004 15:39:18
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2004 :  13:45:41  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Jontiven
Writing all of this stuff down takes a lot of time and thought and I
don't mind as long as it is appreciated. The best way to show that appreciation in a meaningful way to me is to check out ELLIS. Now if you choose not to purchase because you really don't dig the music, that is valid. I can accept that. But if you don't bother to take the time to check it out and you are reading my insider posts, you are taking advantage of my good nature.



i disagree.

your insider posts are extremely appreciated. but it's your choice to post them or not. i don't think anyone here should feel responsible to buy an album by another artist so that you'll give us more information.



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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2004 :  13:55:31  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
I have to say mr.Tiven's idea of 'trading' is a bit excentric
but I do like it in a way, because he's open about what he wants
some people like Ellis, some people not
if you do, consider to buy the album if you can afford it
if you don't, don't feel obliged to buy and read his posts anyway

It's a weird system
but we can play along
as long as we like Ellis


"I joined the Cult of Serge/'Cause he invented indierock before Frank did"
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 10/11/2004 :  14:02:34  Show Profile
i guess being the recipient of someones "good-naturedness" comes with a price tag sometimes (and some mild guilt)



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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Niue
7443 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2004 :  01:28:51  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage
Jon genuinely wants us to like Ellis Hooks's work. I tend to think a bit like floop (although I didn't understand your last post...), that insisting on making us buy the record looks a bit weird. But on the other hand, let's face it, this is not the best way of promoting the album if Jon's only objective was to sell a bunch of copies. The time he spends on the forum would be more efficiently used contacting music mags, or TV channels to place some songs on shows or whatever. So I'll be naive and say Jon does that cause he truly thinks we'll like the album.
Now that doesn't mean I'll buy it eyes closed... But I promise to go to the Artemis Records site and listen to what I can. And you can be sure that if I like it I'll buy it, cause I buy a helluva lot of CDs.


Denis

"I do feel sorry for people who don't collect records and obsess about music. Why? Because collecting, consuming and obsessing over music and records is very interesting. That's why." - Johan Kugelberg
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Bartholomew
= Cult of Ray =

USA
344 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2004 :  10:13:53  Show Profile
Sweet Jehovah! You guys are making much ado about nothing. If you want to take Jon's advice and buy the album for whatever reason, do it. If not, don't buy it, but please keep your moral stances to yourself (nobody's forcing you to do anything, right?). The rest of us are dying to hear more insider scoop on the album and might not get the honor to do so if you offend our speaker/source.

Thanks much,
Uncle Bart
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 10/12/2004 :  12:32:11  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Bartholomew

Sweet Jehovah! You guys are making much ado about nothing. If you want to take Jon's advice and buy the album for whatever reason, do it. If not, don't buy it, but please keep your moral stances to yourself (nobody's forcing you to do anything, right?). The rest of us are dying to hear more insider scoop on the album and might not get the honor to do so if you offend our speaker/source.

Thanks much,
Uncle Bart



This is a forum; we're here to talk. I agree with floop but I've stayed quiet to keep the inside info rolling. However, there's nothing wrong with floop reacting mildly to jontiven's coercion.
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