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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
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 Posted - 01/20/2003 : 20:00:20
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Any peps like Todd Stoltz(I think thats right), I loved Happieness even though most people just think it's fucked up. If you like FB you have to like David Lynch. I'm a massivvve fan of David Lynch and I thought Mullholland drive was a real return to form(The Straight Story was a beautiful film but didnt have any of his trademark surreal dreamlike qaulities and I was'nt too impressed with Wild at Heart and Lost Highway although thier still good Lychian affairs but I really loved The Elephant Man, Blue Velvet and Twin Peaks), I even love listening to the Earserhead sountrack! I worked in a cinema for abit when I was in college and had The Elephant Man on my name bage as my favorite film, that really confussed people! Nobody mentioned Godard or Fritz Lang, I love his movie "M". Down by Law is also a great film by Jarmusch.
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misterwoe
= Cult of Ray =
Greece
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Posted - 01/21/2003 : 09:32:14
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David Lynch is great. I, unfortunately, have not been able to see eraserhead or any of the twin peaks stuff. I thought wild heart was interesting. I kind of liked Cage's character because he was so eccentric.
Leonard Cohen is cool.
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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
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Posted - 01/21/2003 : 11:53:31
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I sort of liked the characters in Blue Velvet, Twin Peaks, Lost Highway and Mullholland Drive more, who stumble into these strange dreamlike sub-realities where their whole world is turned upside. I know what you mean about Cages character but I like the characters with thier shirts buttoned up to thier neck, who are sort of squeaky clean avant garde geeks or doe eyed American dreamers, just like the way Lynch wears his shirts as well! I love Mel Brooks calling him Jimmy Steward from Mars!
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 01/21/2003 : 16:12:17
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Originally posted by therewererumours
Any peps like Todd Stoltz(I think thats right), I loved Happieness even though most people just think it's fucked up. If you like FB you have to like David Lynch. I'm a massivvve fan of David Lynch and I thought Mullholland drive was a real return to form(The Straight Story was a beautiful film but didnt have any of his trademark surreal dreamlike qaulities and I was'nt too impressed with Wild at Heart and Lost Highway although thier still good Lychian affairs but I really loved The Elephant Man, Blue Velvet and Twin Peaks), I even love listening to the Earserhead sountrack! I worked in a cinema for abit when I was in college and had The Elephant Man on my name bage as my favorite film, that really confussed people! Nobody mentioned Godard or Fritz Lang, I love his movie "M". Down by Law is also a great film by Jarmusch.
"Let's see. You've got a two...and a receipt for a box of tampons? This might be the worst poker hand ever".
i've become a pretty big fan of his over the years. it's hard not to respect him as a filmmaker / artist.. some people just don't "get" him, which is fine..
i work in cinema myself (editing) and am working with someone right now who worked on a few of his films in post production. he has editing rooms at his house (one of his houses).. so i've been grilling him for David Lynch anecdotes.
i guess every friday they would have a little cocktail party at the end of the day and various people (friends and actors) would randomly show up.. i would KILL to work on one of his films..
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 01/21/2003 : 16:14:21
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Originally posted by misterwoe
David Lynch is great. I, unfortunately, have not been able to see eraserhead or any of the twin peaks stuff. I thought wild heart was interesting. I kind of liked Cage's character because he was so eccentric.
Leonard Cohen is cool.
"What the fuck are we doing in the desert?"
you can rent the first season of TWIN PEAKS on DVD.. which i strongly urge.. i wasn't into it when it was on either, but i've seen them since then and it's SO FUCKING GOOD. i can't even believe that was on network television. nowadays, something as weird and wonderful as TWIN PEAKS would have an even harder time making it with the way they cancel shows so quickly..
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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
1240 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2003 : 19:10:19
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I loved Twin Peaks when Irish TV reshowed it in the mid-ninties, I never caught it the first time round it was on. It was such a fucked up show and I watchesd every episode but I was away for the last episode so I was kicking myself. I've seen abit of the last episode since then and it's such a cool ending. I used to love Dune when I was younger(even though I did'nt understand it), then I saw Blue Velvet and Twin Peaks and thought they were the coolest things I'd ever seen(showing this bizzare underbelly of white picket fence America). I only found out later that the agent Gordon guy with the hearing problem was Lynch himself and he also has a cameo in Dune.
I could'nt believe it then when I found out my favorite band ever(the Pixies) had done a cover(The Lady in The Radiator Song) a song from a Lynch film, Eraserhead! So I rushed out to rent it, and let me tell you it's one strange film. it's been called a horror film but its more of a surreal arthouse piece(it was a student film after all) but it's a really beautiful and hypnotic film and worth seeing. Jack Nance who plays the Erasehead guy has been in nearly all of Lynchs film until he died after a fight in a Donut shop, thats a great way for someone who's been in all those Lynch films to go out!
I think floop, that Twin Peaks set a precedent for T.V. No ones had the same vision as Lynch but you have all those great HBO shows(I dont know if you have to pay to watch it in America but English stations show them all) like The Soprano's, Oz and Six Feet Under, who all use these weird dream seqences and try to look further then the mundane and our conscious waking lives? Sorry my rants over:) c ya!
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Chris Knight
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USA
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Posted - 01/21/2003 : 21:17:34
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floop
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Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 01/21/2003 : 22:54:49
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you probably won't find it at Assbuster. but any self-respecting video store that rents cooler stuff should have a copy on hand. i mean, it's like a classic "midnight movie".
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Golly
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Sweden
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Posted - 01/22/2003 : 04:10:36
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floop
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Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2003 : 08:05:03
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to this day it still a shocking film to watch. show it to an audience and they will all squirm during the slicing part..
you do see slicing, but the eyeball that is sliced is a donkey eye.
a bit of trivia: the guy doing the slicing in the film is Bunuel himself.
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Golly
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Sweden
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Posted - 01/22/2003 : 10:23:14
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now that's "slicing up eyeballs" indeed.
didn't know there was an actual slicing of the eyeball. Seems i'd better get me this movie haahahaho |
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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
1240 Posts |
Posted - 01/22/2003 : 15:25:47
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I saw Un Chein Andalou in first year in college for film studies, the slicing eyeballs bit is so horrible , the editings so quick you dont get to realize its a donkey eye!(I always thought it was a cows?)
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =
USA
891 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2003 : 15:47:15
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Hey Floop, I saw Le Samourai and it was great.
Also, Alice in the Cities was great too, it had music by Can (not sure if you're a fan) but that was kind of surprising.
I'll hunt for that Jarmusch list and post it when I find it. |
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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
1240 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2003 : 16:36:11
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Yey! for Kraut Rock! Chrome and Nue! fucking rock as well:) but thats an other topic!
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
2139 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2003 : 01:41:02
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Well i didn't see David Fincher in this post...How come?Fight Club was the best film i saw the last 5 years or so...Anyway alternative cinema lovers check out Alejandro Jodorowsky (El Topo,The Holy Mountain,Santa Sagre),his films are difficult to find(at least they are here)but it worths the try...Oh did i mention Andrej Tarkovskij(Solaris,Stalker)?Soviet Science Fiction,trés cool...Gregg Araki(Doom Generation) ultraviolent,sick,hilarious...Last but not least Monty Python Terry Gilliam(Brazil,12 Monkeys,etc)...P.S :Anyone knows what Lynch's Lost Highway was about?Pretty crapy film...I like Dune though...
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 02/06/2003 : 14:20:50
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mun chien, you're right.. i totally forgot Fincher. he deserves to be there.
there are too many..
i've been meaning to check out some Jodorowsky for a while.. one of these days..
itch, glad you dug Le Samouri. there's a restored print going around town here. going to have to check it out.
i love that film.
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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
1240 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2003 : 18:08:31
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Anyone seen City of God? a really horrific but very stylish film about the street kids in the slums of Rio. I just got the DVD tv edition of Dune, it explains alot more with lots of extra scences, so everything isnt so cyrptic, I never thought it was that hard to understand, Messianic space dynasty with lots of mind altering drugs, but it has the shitest voice over and added in score which made Lynch take his name off the directorial credits.
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
2139 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2003 : 23:04:02
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Originally posted by therewererumours
Anyone seen City of God? a really horrific but very stylish film about the street kids in the slums of Rio. I just got the DVD tv edition of Dune, it explains alot more with lots of extra scences, so everything isnt so cyrptic, I never thought it was that hard to understand, Messianic space dynasty with lots of mind altering drugs, but it has the shitest voice over and added in score which made Lynch take his name off the directorial credits.
daddy or chips?
Actually Dune has a long story behind...The first project to make a film out of the novel was by A.Jodorowsky who called comic designer genius Moebius to do the costumes and H.R Giger for the monster designs plus a team of special effects specialists.jodorowsky's vision was though far too great for the budget so he abbandoned the thing after a while.Moebius and Giger did Alien 1 instead and the Dune project already in pre-production was continued by a couple of directors until Lynch took over destroying pretty much the essence of moebius and jodorowskys work... Then he did the tv version burning this way the few good things left at the film...An idiot...
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therewererumours
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
1240 Posts |
Posted - 02/07/2003 : 06:18:18
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I've seen Giger's early artwork for that Dune project which was really great, was'nt Dali supposed to be involed in it as well? I think Giger was also designing concepts for a film called The Tourists, which also never saw the light of day. I love Moebius's work as well, I've got a couple of his comics and I love his designs for Tron, after Dune folded, Moebius's association with Dan O'Bannon (who directed and acted in Dark Star with John Carpenter) got him introduced to Riley Scott who then later asked him do some work on Blade Runner but he was'nt able to because of other commitments but you can see the 50's gumshoe style that Moebius and O'Bannon used in a short story that later influenced the look of Blade Runner. I also heard that somebodies planning on making a film version of Blueberry?, Moebius's Western alterego.
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
2139 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2003 : 01:38:40
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Yes,i heard too that there is a project about blueberry,but i'm not too happy about it...Most of the times great comics make a ridiculous movie(Tank girl,x men,spiderman,asterix etc).Only exception Tim Burton's Batman 1+2...There is an animated film of Hugo Pratt's Corto Maltese...Someone has seen this one?
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =
USA
891 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2003 : 11:52:01
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Hey Floop, I finally got my hands on Branded To Kill. What a crazy movie, definitely the type of thing you need to see more than once.
For the record, I like Fincher...but he's kind of a one trick pony style wise. It worked on Fight Club and Seven, but I think he's gonna need to find a new bag of tricks if he wants to remain relevant. |
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =
USA
891 Posts |
Posted - 02/08/2003 : 16:50:52
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Okay, well, I finally saw El Topo (my first Jodorowsky movie). I gotta say..maybe i'm a little dissapointed? It was pretty much what I expected. The only thing I could really compare it to would be Luis Bunuel's early stuff, with more blood. I liked some parts, like the weird religious Russion Roulette scene and a few others, but I think it might be half an hour too long. 90 minutes it the perfect length for a "midnight movie", 2 hours could be pushin it a bit. Needless to say, I am interested in seeing Holy Mountain.
I'd give El Topo 3.5 stars out of 5, mostly for originality and risk taking. |
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
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Posted - 02/12/2003 : 04:54:09
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For those interested in jodorowsky or other pretty rare movies check www.rarovideo.com .That's where i got my dvd's of el topo and the holy mountain.
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Stuart
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China
2291 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2003 : 19:58:35
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Zhang Yimou is a director worth looking out for...... hsi new film is 'Hero' and is the next Chinese blockbuster to hit the screens. Ive not seen it as all the DVD copies currently do not have English subtitles... but my girlfriend reckons its shit.... saying that she thought that Coruching Tiger was crap.
Ive seen a few of his films and they are worth watching.... Check out Lifetimes, and Raise the Red Lanterns.... these are pretty good if you are interested in recent Chinese history.
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Steak n Sabre
* Dog in the Sand *
Uzbekistan
1013 Posts |
Posted - 02/27/2003 : 12:09:54
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How could we put a list of directors together without these guys on it:
John Waters
Russ Meyer
Roger Corman
Sam Raimi
George Miller
Ed Wood
I've been entertained many times by this bunch. Sure 'Glen or Glenda' is no 'Fitzcarraldo', but it's good in a bad way. |
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =
USA
891 Posts |
Posted - 02/28/2003 : 14:04:54
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| Ed Wood was great, in a non-ironic way too. I mean, to have that much dedication...there comes a point where dedication transcends talent. |
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Malax
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1340 Posts |
Posted - 02/28/2003 : 14:14:37
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I like the evil dead series and I've watched the majority of Raimis other films (without knowing they were directed by him) and I've gotta say his films are far from spectacular, they really are pretty bog standard films. Obviously this is just my opinion but.....
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