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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 09/25/2002 :  16:42:28  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address
We know he loves them. Does anyone know of any other besides:
1. Ana
2. Speedy Marie
3. Valley of Our Hope
4. Robert Onion

ps. Valley was fun to figure out even though I still haven't heard it.

Thomas
"It's the Nexus of the Crisis"
BÖCswu

Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2002 :  18:48:02  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage
Allow me to phrase what's on everyone's mind:

What's an acrostic??

- Dave
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mdisanto
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1140 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2002 :  18:52:04  Show Profile  Visit mdisanto's Homepage
An acrostic is when
characters are arranged in
rows such that the first letter
of every word
spells out one single word.
this technique can be found
in many of franks songs listed
chronologically above

maybe that makes it clearer


-miked

Edited by - mdisanto on 09/26/2002 03:39:10
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1615 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2002 :  19:33:51  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address
B
Ö
C
s
w
u

is my own acrostic. now that I show you it shouldn't be hard to figure out.

Thomas
"It's the Nexus of the Crisis"
BÖCswu
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carsonwerner
= Cult of Ray =

USA
254 Posts

Posted - 09/25/2002 :  19:36:10  Show Profile  Visit carsonwerner's Homepage
"A poem or series of lines in which certain letters, usually the first in each line, form a name, motto, or message when read in sequence." I never got why he said Ana was an anagram, I don't remembering seeing any anagraming going on.
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mdisanto
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1140 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2002 :  03:37:59  Show Profile  Visit mdisanto's Homepage
in ana it says
s
u
r
f
e
r
in the one verse

-miked
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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1734 Posts

Posted - 09/26/2002 :  04:40:28  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Thomas

B
Ö
C
s
w
u

is my own acrostic. now that I show you it shouldn't be hard to figure out.

Thomas
"It's the Nexus of the Crisis"
BÖCswu



Blue Öyster Cult?




"Forget your Ying and go fuck your Yang"
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 09/26/2002 :  06:06:20  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address
Yup, but 'swu' takes a little more investigative work, but not much.

Hey this is about FB no BÖC. {slaps self in back of head} :)

Thomas
"It's the Nexus of the Crisis"
BÖCswu
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debaser
- FB Fan -

France
120 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2002 :  03:42:24  Show Profile
swu :
I switched you ?
SW U

Just trying ...
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1615 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2002 :  05:35:38  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address
Hey Mike, nice acrostic edit. I guess he named it Ana cause Acro or Stic doesn't have a double meaning. Like Ana, to someone reading along to the song and not realizing the SURFER, could think it's just the name of the girl he is singing about. That's what I thought when I first heard it.

debaser, a hint: it's more to do about BÖC not FB

Thomas
"It's the Nexus of the Crisis"
BÖCswu
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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =

914 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2002 :  09:07:07  Show Profile
what cd's are Ana and Valley of our Hope on??

..i'm bad with names..
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1615 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2002 :  11:10:38  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address
Ana = Bossanova
Valley = Pistolero (Japan import only)

Thomas
"It's the Nexus of the Crisis"
BÖCswu
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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <

3648 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2002 :  15:58:05  Show Profile
there are no possible anagrams for "frank black"

did you know that?

"Snooch to the Nooch"
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tript
- FB Fan -

USA
9 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2002 :  18:59:50  Show Profile
SWU - Soft White Underbelly....

Trey
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1615 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2002 :  18:34:02  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by tript

SWU - Soft White Underbelly....

Trey



I totally forgot all about this post.

Soft White Underbelly is correct. From 1967 to 1968 Blue Öyster Cult where known as Soft White Underbelly. A new singer brought a new band name.
During the 70's and 80's they used Soft White Underbelly at small clubs in the NYC area. There hardcore fan base knew who SWU really were. And I remember the radio promos hinting at who they really were but would stop short at telling you it was really BÖC and not a cover band.

"It's the Nexus of the Crisis"
BÖCswu
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =

Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
464 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2002 :  02:01:00  Show Profile  Visit johndietzel's Homepage
What's the "Valley of Our Hope" trick? And where might one read the lyrics?

"Plain n' simp--the system's a pimp, but I refuse to be a ho."
Chuck D
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1615 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2002 :  06:25:03  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address
This is the original post from Abstract Plain. I was turned onto it a few months ago and it took me a few days to figure out the acrostic. I e-mailed my answer to Charles and his answered to me was "good job". He didn't correct any mistakes if there were any or add anything that I probably missed.

Enjoy if you haven't tried this one yet. I left it the original way he typed it up so you'll probably have to use a program like MS Word to paste it to and move the lines around to make sense. Have fun.



From: Frankusblackus@xxx.xxx
Date: Thu Oct 28, 1999 10:10 pm
Subject: re: Valley Of Our Hope


VALLEY OF OUR HOPE

Near to his conclusion Even though he was a fusion Man of cross-eyed rubies and
ash upon the snow Over and over he said “Woe, Numbered are my days so let’s go
Wonderful to make your kind intrusion”

Angling to get notice Under dark skies of Van Nuys Giving speeches though I
knew him as the organist Imploring with his eyes Ever-offering a sweet kiss Tu
eres un oso de miel dorado ay yay yay

Here in the valley of our hope Over the the hill of pain May we always
cling to the sight of each other Enjoying all things Enjoying all things
Enjoying all things Enjoying all things

Eduardo he’s a movie star Delivered here by Savior’s truck Deliverance it was
from bad, bad luck Instead it’s just one hand was struck Eventually tore his
finger so hard Three limbs would serve the boyish star

Terrible screaming her Underworld dreaming her Lady was steaming her Able
assault Better her vault Eduardo’s sister she is called Lady of the secret
place Lies asleep within those walls Escaping from my telephone calls Countess
of egyptian airspace Number-crunching as she falls fortran in her tiny face

Here in the valley of our hope Over the the hill of pain May we always
cling to the sight of each other Enjoying all things Enjoying all things
Enjoying all things Enjoying all things

Pleased to see you once again How about we get to be friends? Occam’s Razor we
surely will obey Every night we’ll dance the dance Never will I go away I said
never will I go away Xanax if you really want Count on us to keep you sane The
whole place is your haunt Someday will you change the taunt Of your old name
that came Five years in the flames

Cinder black is coming back Underneath a sun that set Believe me I have no
regret Believe me she will never lack Yesiree she is come back Sixteen tons and
what do you get?

Here in the valley of our hope Over the the hill of pain May we always
cling to the sight of each other Enjoying all things Enjoying all things Enjoying all things Enjoying all things

©1998 FRANK BLACK

notes: only available on Japanese pressing of Pistolero; trivia... can you
figure out the song's anagrams?

nemo



"It's the Nexus of the Crisis"
BÖCswu
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =

Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
464 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2002 :  00:09:37  Show Profile  Visit johndietzel's Homepage
Hey thanks, Mr. Underbelly. Glad you didn't post the "answer" yet, since I'd like to try and figure it out at least. So are there also anagrams in there as "nemo" suggests? Well, a casual perusal at least shows one subject to be "an underwater guy who controlled the sea," eh? Or at least shares the name.

I have a pair of really cool action figures that are related. Maybe I post them some time. I think they're by Mezco.

"Plain n' simp--the system's a pimp, but I refuse to be a ho."
Chuck D
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =

Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
464 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2002 :  02:31:35  Show Profile  Visit johndietzel's Homepage
I forgot to ask. You mentioned that Frank gave you a "good job" when you sent the solution to the acrostics in "Valley of Our Hope." Did you send him your whole analysis, including your theory on the subjects of the lyrics (arf-arf meow) and the numerical significance? Just curious to see if your theories were correct or at least close.

Nice job, by the way. I would have never been able to figure it out (not the acrostics, but the interpretation part).

"Plain n' simp--the system's a pimp, but I refuse to be a ho."
Chuck D
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =

Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
464 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2002 :  23:29:20  Show Profile  Visit johndietzel's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis

there are no possible anagrams for "frank black"

did you know that?

"Snooch to the Nooch"



Maybe I don't understand what an anagram is, but there are at least a few, as far as I can tell.

"Blank Rack F"
or if one letter words don't count:
"Brank Flack"

brank n. A device consisting of a metal frame for the head and a bit to restrain the tongue, formerly used to punish scolds. Usually used in the plural.

flak (also flack) n. Antiaircraft artillery. The bursting shells fired from such artillery. Informal. Excessive or abusive criticism.
Dissension; opposition.

There are other meanings too. Granted thet aren't cool like Old West Action and Clint Eastwood, but I believe they're there.

"Plain n' simp--the system's a pimp, but I refuse to be a ho."
Chuck D

Edited by - johndietzel on 10/24/2002 23:36:19
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1615 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2002 :  17:07:52  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by johndietzel

Did you send him your whole analysis, including your theory on the subjects of the lyrics (arf-arf meow) and the numerical significance? Just curious to see if your theories were correct or at least close.




I sent everything. Pie charts, graphs & twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was.

Did you figure it out? or did you find my answer somewhere?

"It's the Nexus of the Crisis"
BÖCswu
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holzgrafe
- FB Fan -

USA
75 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2002 :  17:37:07  Show Profile
quote:

I sent everything. Pie charts, graphs & twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy photographs with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was.


Just wanted to acknowledge this creative "sampling" from Arlo Guthrie's "Alice's Restaurant". Nice. - Mel
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -

United Kingdom
1731 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2002 :  01:34:45  Show Profile
Thomas

What was your answer? I have decided to wimp out early
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1615 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2002 :  02:10:00  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by Ten Percenter

Thomas

What was your answer? I have decided to wimp out early



Never count yourself out. Even capital letters are important. Maybe I can help. One line at a time.


quote:
Just wanted to acknowledge this creative "sampling" from Arlo Guthrie's "Alice's Restaurant". Nice. - Mel

thanks Mel

"It's the Nexus of the Crisis"
BÖCswu
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -

United Kingdom
1731 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2002 :  02:51:24  Show Profile
Ok, NEMO - but what else?? Lazy, me???
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1615 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2002 :  03:07:52  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address
Get to know Nemo. Cuddle up with him and his family.

"It's the Nexus of the Crisis"
BÖCswu
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =

Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
464 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2002 :  14:24:15  Show Profile  Visit johndietzel's Homepage
Answering a previous question from Thomas, I remembered where I read your analysis, so I went and found it. It is very smart.

"Hard not to have fun when you're hitting balls halfway to the moon."
Dusty Baker
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -

United Kingdom
1731 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2002 :  06:26:09  Show Profile
And where is the analysis? Thomas, help me!!!!!!!!!!
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1615 Posts

Posted - 11/21/2002 :  20:59:37  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address
I broke it down into three parts. Get a crackin'. It is more in depth than Robert Onion.


VALLEY OF OUR HOPE


Near to his conclusion
Even though he was a fusion
Man of cross-eyed rubies and ash upon the snow
Over and over he said "Woe,
Numbered are my days so let's go
Wonderful to make your kind intrusion"
Angling to get notice
Under dark skies of Van Nuys
Giving speeches though I knew him as the organist
Imploring with his eyes
Ever-offering a sweet kiss
Tu eres un oso de miel dorado ay yay yay
Here in the valley of our hope
Over the the hill of pain
May we always cling to the sight of each other
Enjoying all things Enjoying all things Enjoying all things Enjoying
all things




Eduardo he's a movie star
Delivered here by Savior's truck
Deliverance it was from bad, bad luck
Instead it's just one hand was struck
Eventually tore his finger so hard
Three limbs would serve the boyish star
Terrible screaming her
Underworld dreaming her
Lady was steaming her
Able assault
Better her vault
Eduardo's sister she is called
Lady of the secret place
Lies asleep within those walls
Escaping from my telephone calls
Countess of egyptian airspace
Number-crunching as she falls
Fortran in her tiny face
Here in the valley of our hope
Over the the hill of pain
May we always cling to the sight of each other
Enjoying all things Enjoying all things Enjoying all things Enjoying
all things




Pleased to see you once again
How about we get to be friends?
Occam's Razor we surely will obey
Every night we'll dance the dance
Never will I go away
I said never will I go away
Xanax if you really want
Count on us to keep you sane
The whole place is your haunt
Someday will you change the taunt
Of your old name that came
Five years in the flames
Cinder black is coming back
Underneath a sun that set
Believe me I have no regret
Believe me she will never lack
Yesiree she is come back
Sixteen tons and what do you get?
Here in the valley of our hope
Over the the hill of pain
May we always cling to the sight of each other
Enjoying all things Enjoying all things Enjoying all things Enjoying
all things



Thomas

"It's the Nexus of the Crisis"
BÖCswu
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theonecontender
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
565 Posts

Posted - 11/22/2002 :  01:17:46  Show Profile  Visit theonecontender's Homepage
drink.

1c
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St. Francis
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
548 Posts

Posted - 11/22/2002 :  08:08:23  Show Profile
My Brain Hurts...

Lord-a-mercy!
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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =

914 Posts

Posted - 11/22/2002 :  10:21:41  Show Profile
stumpa stump
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big_galoof
= Cult of Ray =

USA
310 Posts

Posted - 11/22/2002 :  10:41:47  Show Profile  Visit big_galoof's Homepage
NEMO
AUGIE
EDDIE
TULA BELLE
PHOENIX
CUBBY

charles' pets. they live at HOME?

i may have had a little advance help on this.

tbg

visit the big galoof's frank black trade list here:
http://home.nycap.rr.com/souvenirs/tradelist.htm

Edited by - big_galoof on 11/22/2002 10:46:11
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mixedbizz
- FB Fan -

USA
176 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2002 :  03:15:38  Show Profile
Is that is?? The pets names?
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1615 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2002 :  06:42:15  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address
no

edit
Yes, the pet names are correct. No, that's not it.

Thomas

"It's the Nexus of the Crisis"
BÖCswu

Edited by - Thomas on 12/16/2002 06:54:01
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -

United Kingdom
1731 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2002 :  07:41:34  Show Profile
Are these the names of dogs that served and died in Vietnam?
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