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Frog in the Sand
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Posted - 01/17/2004 :  09:51:47  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage
Some time ago somebody subtly noticed that the rumors about the Pixies reunion had emerged just before the release of SMYT.

3 or 4 days ago we learned that the reunion was 'confirmed' and also that FB (or Black Francis? or both?) planned to release a new album soon.

Another amazing coincidence: the release of the new album and the first gig of the newly 'reunited' Pixies would both take place in early / mid Spring '04...

Strange, isn'it?...

IceCream
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Posted - 01/17/2004 :  10:01:14  Show Profile  Visit IceCream's Homepage
Yes.
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El Barto
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USA
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Posted - 01/17/2004 :  11:07:50  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
What are you trying to say?


"I joined the Cult of Clops / If I were you, I'd sleep with one eye open."
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oddball
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Germany
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Posted - 01/17/2004 :  11:42:06  Show Profile
ditto, what the hell?
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sarah spinart
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Posted - 01/17/2004 :  11:49:57  Show Profile  Visit sarah spinart's Homepage
the two are totally unrelated.
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PixieSteve
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Poland
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Posted - 01/17/2004 :  11:56:28  Show Profile
haha, yeah right. if anything it's for more publicity.
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Thomas
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USA
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Posted - 01/17/2004 :  12:56:41  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address
you calling him a sell out?
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *

France
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Posted - 01/17/2004 :  13:24:49  Show Profile  Visit Adnan_le_Terrible's Homepage
Well it's not strange to me...

Let's say I want to sell my DVD player. And you ask me to sell your TV. If I sell your TV, I don't see it as a swindle to try and sell my DVD player too.



Now virtually everyone's singing a Pixies song / But I still believe in the excellent joy of Frank Black
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El Barto
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USA
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Posted - 01/17/2004 :  14:14:24  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
You didn't clear anything up by that...


"I joined the Cult of Clops / If I were you, I'd sleep with one eye open."
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Chris Knight
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USA
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Posted - 01/17/2004 :  14:35:49  Show Profile  Visit Chris Knight's Homepage
I think it's pretty obvious what is being suggested here - either that the Pixies reunion rumours aren't being shot down by official sources because they're helping sales of Catholics product, or the reunion plans and announcements thereof are being purposely orchestrated to coincide with Catholics-related announcements and plans. Well, whatever. IMHO, anyone who thinks the Pixies thing isn't happening is either a little close-minded, a little naive, or both. Sorry.
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ramona
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Posted - 01/17/2004 :  14:50:15  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage
Yeah, this subject perplexes me. It's kinda reaching, IMHO.

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SpudBoy
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Equatorial Guinea
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Posted - 01/17/2004 :  19:16:40  Show Profile  Visit SpudBoy's Homepage
I'm still stuck on the TV-DVD analogy. So if Frank Black asks you to sell his TV, but he already sold you his DVD player, and you need to buy tickets to the Pixies reunion, would you start out at the pawn shop? See, that would be wrong, 'cause those guys aren't gonna give you what it's worth. That would make Frank mad - or stick you paying the difference.

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IceCream
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Posted - 01/17/2004 :  22:13:18  Show Profile  Visit IceCream's Homepage
I'm speaking for myself, but I don't think it means anything; rather, it is an interesting synchonicity that Frog in the Sand happened to notice.

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Kyrre
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Norway
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Posted - 01/17/2004 :  23:50:13  Show Profile
Everybody thinks the Pixies thing will happen but we don’t like it. At least I don't....

Frog in the Sand noticed an interesting synchronicity, but it’s not unusual to try to make a few bucks out of PR. Who doesn’t?


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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 01/18/2004 :  05:59:28  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Chris Knight

either that the Pixies reunion rumours aren't being shot down by official sources because they're helping sales of Catholics product


Yes. (I'm not saying it's the truth, I'm just saying that's more or less what I meant.) Btw, the endless silence of the official sources is difficult - though probably not impossible - to explain otherwise, IMO.

quote:
or the reunion plans and announcements thereof are being purposely orchestrated to coincide with Catholics-related announcements and plans.


No no no... If there are reunion plans, then the coincidences I noticed are probably nothing more than simple coincidences.

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IMHO, anyone who thinks the Pixies thing isn't happening is either a little close-minded, a little naive, or both. Sorry.


Maybe I'm a little naive or close-minded, but to my eyes - the eyes of a somewhat experienced journalist - the Pixies thing has not been convincingly confirmed to date.
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1973 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2004 :  08:25:12  Show Profile  Visit Adnan_le_Terrible's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by El Barto

You didn't clear anything up by that...


"I joined the Cult of Clops / If I were you, I'd sleep with one eye open."



My point was, if he can use the publicity of the Pixies reunion to sell his own record, than it's just fine. Perhaps they will just play a couple of shows together, and the purpose for FB will be to get a couple of articles about him, each one talking about his new solo album....it's a free advertisement.



Now virtually everyone's singing a Pixies song / But I still believe in the excellent joy of Frank Black
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Dave Noisy
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Canada
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Posted - 01/18/2004 :  08:46:58  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage
It's my understanding they're the subject of the rumors, not the source.
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ramona
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USA
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Posted - 01/18/2004 :  08:49:49  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage
I just had a thought - Frog, are you really Fox Mulder?

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Edited by - ramona on 01/18/2004 08:50:42
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ProverbialCereal
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USA
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Posted - 01/18/2004 :  09:38:50  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by SpudBoy

I'm still stuck on the TV-DVD analogy.
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In my case, I just bought a Sony DVD/VCR player... this would mean the Pixies are the VCR player and the Catholics are the DVD side. Both formats serve their purpose, but in the end the DVD player is the better of the two. While the VCR player is still used occasionally, it wouldn't make sense to keep buying VHS cassettes because DVDs are more quality.

Now here comes the twisit... the Pixies are releasing a DVD soon. So what does this mean?


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PixieSteve
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Poland
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Posted - 01/18/2004 :  10:38:21  Show Profile
fucking hell, i knew it. i just did some research. this may be obvious to everyone already and not that important either, but just incase...

the announcement about the pixies playing at coachella was on the 13th of January, the date they broke up 11 years ago. any significance, other than it's cool?
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El Barto
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USA
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Posted - 01/18/2004 :  12:07:33  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
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the announcement about the pixies playing at coachella was on the 13th of January, the date they broke up 11 years ago. any significance, other than it's cool?


Is this fact? State your sources! That's pretty crazy.


"I joined the Cult of Clops / If I were you, I'd sleep with one eye open."
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PixieSteve
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Poland
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Posted - 01/18/2004 :  14:50:14  Show Profile
http://dag.wieers.com/debaser/timeline.php
13 jan 1993 Radio 5 program 'Hit The North' split announced

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1484334/20040113/story.jhtml
Radiohead, Pixies, Kraftwerk Playing First Night Of Coachella
01.13.2004

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Chris Knight
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USA
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Posted - 01/18/2004 :  15:33:11  Show Profile  Visit Chris Knight's Homepage
Frog In The Sand- I disagree about the validity of confirmation, since reports on the Pixies reunion are coming from so many places (regardless of whether the multiple reports are really just one report being rehashed), and a LOT of people in the world of music journalism will have to bite their tongue if nothing actually happens.

Dave- good point, sort of.

Proverbial- are you saying you like the Catholics stuff better than the Pixies stuff, or that the present Pixies are too old to play like the Pixies of yore?
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ProverbialCereal
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USA
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Posted - 01/18/2004 :  15:40:35  Show Profile
I think I'm saying I listen to Frank Black stuff way more, but of course I love the Pixies.

The Pixies are from yesterday (VHS) and Frank Black is today (DVD). I see no need to go back to VHS tapes. But, come what may. If the Pixies got back together I'd still be intrigued by it and will love to see how it goes down.

Other than that, I was just making fun of analogies.


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MangyKid
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Posted - 01/18/2004 :  21:23:08  Show Profile
my brain...hurts...vcr? argh...
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SpudBoy
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Equatorial Guinea
649 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2004 :  22:17:12  Show Profile  Visit SpudBoy's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by ProverbialCereal


In my case, I just bought a Sony DVD/VCR player... this would mean the Pixies are the VCR player and the Catholics are the DVD side. Both formats serve their purpose, but in the end the DVD player is the better of the two. While the VCR player is still used occasionally, it wouldn't make sense to keep buying VHS cassettes because DVDs are more quality.

Now here comes the twisit... the Pixies are releasing a DVD soon. So what does this mean?



I think it means that you need to actually get a loan from the Pixies tour manager to buy a DVD burner, and convert all of your current VHS media over. Then, sell the VCR and VHS tapes to cover some of the cost of the dvd burner, and start pirating Pixies material on everythingenglish.com to make up the difference. You don't want to owe money to people in the entertainment business. They'll hurt you.

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The King Of Karaoke
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USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2004 :  03:34:47  Show Profile
I agree with spudboy but see it differently. Let me clear this up for those of you that may be lost.
As you may be aware, we here at the National Center for Awareness are totally committed to ending this scourge across our nation known as Situational Condititioning.  As of December of last year, Situational Conditioning has been reported as far east as Waltham, MA and as far north as Pinehurst.  The figures for southern and western expansion were not available at press time, however, some experts agree that other experts are most definitely incorrect in choosing not to agree, or in some cases, even give the appearance of agreement on what would otherwise be a highly agreeable statement.  "In dispute at this time is not the numbers of expansion, it's simply the basic truth that these liberal, water-drinking, street-driving, home-living-in media pundits utterly refuse to admit what's already been admitted to the entire world over", said Davis Levy, Senior Director for some guy's firm that might represent cases like these.  He continued, "it's concentration in the state of Massachusetts leaves many of us to believe this is clearly some kind of republican effort to redistribute these little red shiny things in a blatant effort to take control".  Mr. Levy's friend, Yeldik Stingham, was not available for comment.


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pong
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France
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Posted - 01/19/2004 :  11:21:58  Show Profile  Visit pong's Homepage
but, the real question is "will the pixies release a new album after the reunion ?". i guess "yes" ! because they will jam together, play a lot (a few weeks) for remembering there stuff. so... if they enjoy to play together, the will release a new album. that's my point of view. and, anyway, the will release the "live" album of the show !

- Pong

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benji
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New Zealand
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Posted - 01/21/2004 :  03:36:28  Show Profile  Visit benji's Homepage
i don't think that the pixies will release a new album if/when they reunite.

however, what they could do is record an album of "solo" songs as the pixies...

like record 6 frank black/frank black & the catholics songs and 6 breeders/amps ones...
now that would be pretty awesome...
well maybe not.
but i would be interested in hearing the results.

now if you had to pick 6 of each - well actually that might not be far seeing as frank has released so many more songs than kim....
i wonder what a better ratio would be?
7 and 5 maybe....
but what would they be?

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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 01/21/2004 :  05:48:22  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Chris Knight

Frog In The Sand- I disagree about the validity of confirmation, since reports on the Pixies reunion are coming from so many places (regardless of whether the multiple reports are really just one report being rehashed), and a LOT of people in the world of music journalism will have to bite their tongue if nothing actually happens.


Have you read this: http://www.frankblack.net/news ?
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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 01/21/2004 :  06:56:40  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage
Again, if the Pixies thing is true, the coincidences I noticed are probably nothing more than coincidences - and you're allowed to kick my ass. But if the rumors turn out to be false, these coincidences certainly mean something IMO. We'll have to wonder how / why they emerged and persisted despite their implausibility and the lack of solid evidence.
That's all I meant, sorry if I wasn't explicit enough.
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Chris Knight
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USA
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Posted - 01/21/2004 :  11:57:55  Show Profile  Visit Chris Knight's Homepage
Dude, take it easy. It's just a difference of opinion. I just read the news page... so this stuff is being reported exclusively by outside sources. Big deal, I knew that. But the reports that are coming out are, in my estimation, unusually affirmative and specific. In the real world, a festival like Coachella could get in a lot of trouble for saying that a "reuniting" band like the Pixies is going to play there when a contract isn't even in the works. The reunion must at least be in the "66% likely to happen" stage, unless the planners are looking for a false advertising suit. I could be wrong. Anyway, I'm not saying this because I'm deadset on seeing the reunion happen; I honestly don't care either way. The Catholics are great, the Pixies are great. Peace.
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Frog in the Sand
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Posted - 01/21/2004 :  23:58:52  Show Profile  Visit Frog in the Sand's Homepage
No problem Chris.
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