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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 01/05/2004 :  22:22:29  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage
A friend of mine really likes the movie 7. I hate it and think it's one of the worst movies ever (though it's very well made). Once it made me wonder if we should be friends at all.
Though they seem to be the same type of movie, I think the Silence of the Lambs is 100% different, far superior, and nothing at all like 7.
The difference is the point of view of each movie. In 7, the idea is that people are awful and deserve whatever bad things happen to them. In SotL, the idea is that almost all people are essentially decent, even Lector.

vilainde
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Niue
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Posted - 01/06/2004 :  01:16:05  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of Silence Of The Lambs, but it's definitely better than Seven.


Denis

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STITCHES
= Cult of Ray =

USA
915 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2004 :  06:26:18  Show Profile
the idea of seven isn't really that people are bad and deserve bad things....just that one psycho thinks so

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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2004 :  06:54:37  Show Profile
Se7en is my preference, although I don't think it's above criticism...I still really like it, though.

Carl

Edited by - Carl on 01/06/2004 06:56:12
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2004 :  07:23:16  Show Profile
I like seven more, but they're completely different movies


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Owen
- FB Fan -

USA
165 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2004 :  07:35:56  Show Profile
Does 7 even look like a 'V'? Well, maybe if you rotated it a little bit. God is 7even. God is S7ven. God is Se7en. God is Sev7n. God is Seve7. What's the connection here? I've only seen parts of the movie; is there something I'm missing?

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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2004 :  07:54:28  Show Profile
No...It's 7ery silly. And 7exing.

Carl
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cvanepps
= Cult of Ray =

USA
442 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2004 :  15:20:34  Show Profile
I like Seven but Silence is far superior. How's that for alliteration?

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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1162 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2004 :  20:50:31  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage
i can see how you might come to that conclusion if you were a moron who had his cranium inserted entirely into his rectum.
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STITCHES
= Cult of Ray =

USA
915 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2004 :  06:52:06  Show Profile
so basically you're agreeing with his opinion? cause according to the pictures on your website (www.ebbviciousshoveshisheadintohisassforalltosee.com) you're as much a moron as he is

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cvanepps
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USA
442 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2004 :  07:52:16  Show Profile
Ebb, you'll get no feeding from me, troll. We FB fans are very evolved creatures. Sorry. Someone else might feed you but not me. Good luck, though.

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Owen
- FB Fan -

USA
165 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2004 :  08:29:37  Show Profile
I knew I shouldn't've let my rights to that domain name expire.
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1764 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2004 :  09:04:21  Show Profile
what's worse, go rent 8mm. What an atrocious movie; it was supposed to be the follow up to Se7en (that 7 always bothered me too) but they couldn't get Morgan Freeman so of course they got the shittiest actor ever (Nicholas Cage) who apparently was bored with acting while shooting it. It's laughably revolting.


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STITCHES
= Cult of Ray =

USA
915 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2004 :  09:12:04  Show Profile
8mm was supposed to be a followup to seven??? are you serious???
it really is quite an atrocious movie, no redeeming qualities whatsoever

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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =

USA
876 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2004 :  20:44:11  Show Profile  Visit jimmy's Homepage
This past fall there was that movie "In the Cut" with Meg Ryan and Mark Ruffalo- it looked like it would be good but it wasn't out long and I didn't get to see. I saw in an interview Mark said the movie was like Seven. It was on a lot of worst of 2003 lists but I'm still gonna see it on dvd. I just wanna see for myself.
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Adnan_le_Terrible
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1973 Posts

Posted - 01/08/2004 :  00:38:22  Show Profile  Visit Adnan_le_Terrible's Homepage
"8 mm" is a very bad movie, but Cage can be a really good actor (like in "Leaving Las Vegas")


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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 01/08/2004 :  05:33:03  Show Profile
Then of course there's "Kiss The Girls" and "Along Came A Spider", which DO star Morgan Freeman.

Carl
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vilainde
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Niue
7446 Posts

Posted - 01/08/2004 :  06:38:02  Show Profile  Visit vilainde's Homepage
Nicholas Cage is not a bad actor. For instance, last Sunday I watched Gone In 60 Seconds and... no, wait, bad example. But he did a couple of great movies (Face Off, Windtalkers, Snake Eyes, Bringing Out The Dead, Kiss Of Death... I guess that's all).


Denis

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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 01/08/2004 :  06:40:23  Show Profile
Raising Arizona....he was good in Adaptation. But he does a lot of crap.

Carl
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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1162 Posts

Posted - 01/13/2004 :  09:51:02  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage
8mm is really, really terrible. joel schumacher is such a fucking hack.

i wasn't trolling, i was telling you your opinion is the result of ignorance.
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 01/13/2004 :  10:13:12  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Carl

Raising Arizona....he was good in Adaptation. But he does a lot of crap.
Carl
Agreed on Raising Arizona - his casting in the role was sheer brilliance. Haven't seen Adaptation - he also does a bang-up job in "Wild at Heart", but he'd have to really suck for that character to flop.

Every other movie I remember seeing him in was an utterly crap Hollywood action/whatever movie, so I can't attest to his acting abilities in them. It wouldn't be fair. DeNiro can be a phenomenal actor, but you wouldn't guess it from his recent "film" choices...

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TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *

1968 Posts

Posted - 01/13/2004 :  14:33:58  Show Profile
Schulmacher's most recent film, Phone Booth, was entertaining. Nothing spectacular, but certainly worth watching once.

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STITCHES
= Cult of Ray =

USA
915 Posts

Posted - 01/13/2004 :  14:36:37  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by TarTar

Schulmacher's most recent film, Phone Booth, was entertaining. Nothing spectacular, but certainly worth watching once.

Alcohol or pot? VHS or Beta? Man or Astro-man?



I enjoyed phone booth quite a bit....it's a really intelligently done version of the dumb Schumacher-style action flick, if that makes sense

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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2004 :  07:10:38  Show Profile
Hav'nt seen Phone Booth. Last movie I saw was Return Of The King....big Rings fan.

Carl
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STITCHES
= Cult of Ray =

USA
915 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2004 :  07:12:44  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Carl

Hav'nt seen Phone Booth. Last movie I saw was Return Of The King....big Rings fan.

Carl



Ive seen it twice now, and the second time was better than the first

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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2004 :  07:14:42  Show Profile
Seen it twice too...I think the extended edition could be better.

Carl
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TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *

1968 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2004 :  06:03:49  Show Profile
I just finished watching Seven. This is the third time I've seen it, and I think it's a fantastic film. I did like Silence of the Lambs a lot, too, but only saw it once. I don't think the films are comparable, other than the fact that they are in the same genre, which is a vague term anyway. At this point, if I had to choose to watch one, I would pick Silence of the Lambs since I've only seen it once and have just watched Seven for the third time, but I think that I like Seven just a little bit more overall, seeings how I've watched it three times.


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edwina
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United Kingdom
179 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2004 :  09:01:57  Show Profile
Seven is definitely better. Actually, I've never understood the fuss about Silence of the Lambs. And Kevin Spacey's a superior actor, far better than Anthony Hopkins.
Well, at least in my humble opinion.
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2004 :  10:05:36  Show Profile
Well, I dunno 'bout that...seen se7en a lot-maybe even se7en times(chuckle!)
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1764 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2004 :  10:13:16  Show Profile
phone booth was entertaining but, like you said, nothing special. I can't put my finger on it but it was like many other movies I have seen. It's actually much like speed even though he stays in the same place for the entire movie:) This was one movie that no director, not even schumacher, could screw up. It's just such a simple movie. So my enjoying this movie in no way changes my feelings toward JS.


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The King Of Karaoke
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USA
3759 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2004 :  10:20:02  Show Profile
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TarTar
* Dog in the Sand *

1968 Posts

Posted - 01/31/2004 :  17:16:00  Show Profile
I was just skimming through the early draft of the Seven script by
Andrew Kevin Walker and was baffled by how different the ending of the
script is compared to the later draft. In this version I was reading,
John Doe kills Det. Mills in a church, Somerset avenges Mills by
shooting Doe apart piece by piece and burns down the church with Doe
in it. Tracy Mills is still alive and well at the end of the script.
This ending certainly isn't as shocking as the re-written version
(which still, there seem to be a lot of alternate versions and
variations of), but I kinda dig reading where the movie originally
went. This draft was dated sometime in 1992, so it was long before
the script had been picked up by any studio. Does anyone else like
this version of the ending at all?

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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -

Ireland
11546 Posts

Posted - 02/05/2004 :  12:02:54  Show Profile
They should call the sequel 'Eiht' (chuckle!)
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