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mdisanto
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1140 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2002 :  08:46:47  Show Profile  Visit mdisanto's Homepage
has frank ever said what is to become of this song. i assume nothing, but thats ashame becuase i think its his best bside, yes better than pan american highway. its just a great song. perhaps that is a question we can ask him if we have an exclusive Q&A with him

-miked

bazza
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1439 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2002 :  09:27:22  Show Profile
id love to see a q and a with him. genuine fans asking questions instead of some kid asking stoopid things. is it possible though?
maybe...


if a man is alone in a wood and there is no woman around to hear him - is he still wrong?
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mdisanto
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1140 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2002 :  09:39:04  Show Profile  Visit mdisanto's Homepage
this idea was discussed in http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=335&SearchTerms=interview,with,fans
come up with some questions!

-miked
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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =

914 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2002 :  10:39:31  Show Profile
Hey Dave. If there is a q and a....can we officially ban the word "pixies" from the discussion?
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pong
= Cult of Ray =

France
315 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2002 :  11:19:54  Show Profile  Visit pong's Homepage
chip away boy is right : BAN THE WORD pixies. this word became surely a nightmare to him

- Pong

"whatever happen to me?"
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frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
895 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2002 :  11:20:25  Show Profile  Visit frank_black_francis's Homepage
humboldt county massacre.....greatest b-side....but both that song and living on soul should maybe be followed thru onto an album
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Visiting Sasquatch
= Cult of Ray =

USA
451 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2002 :  11:24:23  Show Profile
Na! I don't agree. He's definitely comfortable playing Pixies' tunes, why shouldn't we be comfortable with the word?. I will always love the Pixies, as I do Frank Black.
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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
907 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2002 :  13:44:19  Show Profile
Frank is intelligent enough....we do not need to censor ourselves or ban words....just use discretion. There are answers to questions that are relevent to his present day work that I may just have to refer to that band he was in before. I would love a q and a. I will post some questions on the other board....thanks for the link.


Strummer-man
I had me a vision!
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6213 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2002 :  15:47:29  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
Living on soul is one of his best songs in my opinion, the lyrics are awsome...

Yop
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Cartland
- FB Fan -

Iceland
78 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2002 :  17:15:05  Show Profile  Visit Cartland's Homepage
I have to agree on Humboldt County Massacre. One of his greatest songs. First version much better than SSMVGD version.
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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
907 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2002 :  12:01:22  Show Profile
Is Humboldt County Massacre about forest clear-cutting in California?

Strummer-man
I had me a vision!
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carsonwerner
= Cult of Ray =

USA
254 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2002 :  12:29:58  Show Profile  Visit carsonwerner's Homepage
No I know I have some live version of it where he talks about how these two guys bought this land and killed all the indians that were there, or some such
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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
907 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2002 :  12:30:57  Show Profile
Makes sense. Thanks!

Strummer-man
I had me a vision!

I bid a good-day to you sir!
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =

Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
464 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2002 :  21:13:08  Show Profile  Visit johndietzel's Homepage
The Humboldt song contains possibly Frank's least cryptic lyrics ever. There are many places on the Web that tell the story. One "official"-type resource is the the site to the nearly extinct Wiyot tribe:

http://www.wiyot.com/history.htm



I wholeheartedly agree that the original b-side version is much better. It's concise and uptempo and he sings better.

But PanAm Highway is easily his best b-side. I don't see my person bursting any time soon.

What's kinda cool about the Humboldt song is that other than for authentification purposes, the song replaces the need to read up any further. And it is an example of how TMBG might more stylishly execute one of their silly "learning" songs (like "Mammal" or "James K. Polk") or Linnel's (right?) "state" songs.

"Make no mistake; Ricky Lake's eatin' mad steaks off your bad breaks."
Carlton Ridenhour

Edited by - johndietzel on 11/09/2002 21:19:26
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =

Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
464 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2002 :  21:16:42  Show Profile  Visit johndietzel's Homepage
Hey CarsonW-

Congrats on your DitS status. And you really have a live version of "Humboldt?" Hey man, vamos a tradar!

"Make no mistake; Ricky Lake's eatin' mad steaks off your bad breaks."
Carlton Ridenhour
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Solidgld
- FB Fan -

USA
104 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2002 :  03:36:27  Show Profile
Ok here I go I have seen alot of bsides live and the best is Humbolt frank solo about 4 or 5 years ago. If there was no Pixies could there be Frank Black? If you have a q and a you could not ask a man about his youth ponder that.

Sometime I think his bsides Oddballs the song or the CD are the best songs here's a fast list I like.

You never heard about me
Village of the sun
Better things
Hate Me
This is where I belong
Ballad of Jonny Horton
Pan American Highway
Sleep
Constant Sorrow Man
Pray for the girls
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2002 :  18:23:19  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address
quote:
And it is an example of how TMBG might more stylishly execute one of their silly "learning" songs (like "Mammal" or "James K. Polk") or Linnel's (right?) "state" songs.


I haven't heard "Humboldt Country Massacre," but, as a TMBG fan, I can't help but mention that the State Songs written by John Linnell (right name, wrong spelling) aren't intended to be educational. They're just songs built around the names of states, but not actually ABOUT the states.

Nathan
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2002 :  21:17:39  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by johndietzel

I wholeheartedly agree that the original b-side version is much better. It's concise and uptempo and he sings better.




i think the ultimate version of Humboldt County Massacre is him playing it live and solo at the Prinzebar thing in Germany (some in-store performance he did while promoting DITS).. i didn't truly appreciate the song until i heard that. he plays it slightly slower and puts some serious heart in it.. i think the single version detracts from the lyrics a bit. i couldn't make a lot of it out until i heard Prinzebar..

but yeah.. great tune.

Pan Am rules though..
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KingOfSiam
- FB LinkMaster -

USA
460 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2002 :  07:26:55  Show Profile
I agree with Floop - that is an incredible version!!!!
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