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Dallas
= Cult of Ray =
USA
725 Posts |
 Posted - 11/10/2003 : 14:24:43
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I was just reading through the Pistolero 'epiphany' thread and had a minor epiphany myself. I've always considered Western Star to be FB's best chance at a succesfull single for radio. It's too bad it never happened, but, that song should have been all over radio when it came out.
It led me to wonder what songs am I forgetting when I proclaim Western Star to be the hit single that never was?? That song would have sounded great on the radio and could have inspired a great video as well (countless directions to take it). Which song do you guys consider to be the Hit Single that Never Was?? |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 14:29:30
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| Which Frank songs? Or any songs? |
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Dallas
= Cult of Ray =
USA
725 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 14:33:24
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| Yeah, FB songs. Although, I'm an inclusive type of guy, so...whatever |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 14:36:37
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| Okay then, I think St. Francis Dam Disaster should have been a hit. It's very long - but it's also so pretty, I think it could have been bigger and better with more airplay. Which is the rub of being Frank, it seems. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6187 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 14:48:24
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Western Star would have been better than I want R&R, I believe Play it again Sam released that as a radio-promo-single. Bad, bad choice
my hit single would be: San antiono, TX
 "I joined the Culf of Frank/ And now I do not know what...to do" |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 15:10:14
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| Billy Radcliffe, Are You Headed My Way? |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 15:12:45
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Apparently, Men In Black got to something like no.38 over here...
I would go for Manitoba or Hang On To Your Ego.
 "I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid"
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Wowee_Zowee
- FB Fan -
Belgium
81 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 16:04:16
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Bullet!
Even if you're Michael or Janet: it's a sad, sad planet. |
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
2002 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 16:22:24
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Two Spaces, or I Gotta Move
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
-bRIAN |
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =
Italy
2139 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 17:05:56
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more than one could do the job so i'll just choose one for each album
two spaces
superabound
kicked in the taco
dog gone
bad harmony
hermaphroditos is my name
cold heart of stone
whiskey in your shoes
massif central
 join the cult of errol\and you can have a beer\without having to quit smoking
www.munchienandalusia.too.it
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cigarinthesky
- FB Fan -
USA
24 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 17:15:38
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I think a lot of modern pop sounds like FB 10 years ago -- which means he was(is) ahead of his time, at least in my opinion. What I mean by THAT, is: if "You Ain't Me" were released on certain modern rock stations today and got serious airplay, it would probably do pretty well. So would "Jesus Was Right", let's say, or "Headache". Yeah, I know it was a single back in 94, but I think it would do better today.
Having said that, I really like the chances of "California Bound", "Black Letter Day" (even though it's depressing as hell), and any of the first 4 tracks off of DW. Almost ALL the tracks on SMYT would be a big hit on certain yuppie-rock radio stations (the ones that lean on Dave Matthews, Elvis Costello, Springsteen, et al) and of course St.Francis Dam Disaster. My #1 pick for the 'I coulda been a contender' single ...... San Antonio, TX!! Damn skippy! They (the reviwers) can make all the (Tom)Petty comments they want to, this song kicks serious ass. Boom.
Cigar
p.s. I have no idea why I threw that boom in there. |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 17:22:26
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I'd have to agree with Western Star...it's very radio friendly.
 "I joined the Cult of Clops / If I were you, I'd sleep with one eye open." |
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 17:24:38
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seems Nadine should be liked my radio listeners.
 "I joined the Cult of Popeye / The CoF required my good eye" |
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fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1462 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 17:26:08
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i was really surprised that massif centrale wasn't released as the single for smyt, but then again there are a lot of high quality tunes on this album. from my non hardcore frank friends this is he song they seem to prefer. i'm surprised at many of the singles that have been released. don't get me wrong, they are all great tunes but they don't seem to be his most radio friendly songs. then again frank isn't making music for the radio- thank god. the radio i get here is mainly shat.
 "I joined the Cult of Frank/ and I got a free t-shirt with this dude on it." |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 17:47:42
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I work at Best Buy, and they have "Best Buy Radio" playing with tracks from the latest albums, and Massif Centrale was the track they played off of SMYT. It sure was a pick me up, but I'm kinda glad it doesn't play anymore cause I heard it way too many times!
"I joined the Cult of Clops / If I were you, I'd sleep with one eye open." |
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ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -
USA
2953 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 18:15:59
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Yeah, man. I was getting "sick" of it myself. I'd hear it every hour or so and I wanted to hear other Frank Black songs instead of just one.
I mean, it was great when it came on, because I just looked at everyone walking around Best Buy and thought, "If only they knew what they were listening to right now..."
 "Join the Cult of Mr. Potato Head / And You'll Have Buckets of Fun" |
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Andragorn
- FB Fan -
Italy
6 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 19:54:33
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Two Spaces
Calistan / Fiddle Riddle
You Ain't Me
I Gotta Move
Western Star
St. Francis Dam Disaster
Cold Heart of Stone
Massif Central |
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Crispy Water
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
819 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 20:27:20
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Whenever I'm listening with non-fans, Calistan and Bullet seem to be two songs that get them asking who the hell this guy is.
Nothing is ever something. |
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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =
USA
876 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 21:11:07
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Would've/Should've been huge singles:
FB: Two Spaces
Teenager: The Hostess w/ the Mostess
Ray: The Cult of Ray, The Marsist
Catholics: The Man Who Was Too Loud
Pistolero: I Switched You
Dog: Bullet
Days: 21 Reasons
Workshop: San Antonio, Texas
Tears: Manitoba |
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The New Bolero
= Cult of Ray =
394 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 23:21:31
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To me San Antonio, I Don't Want to Hurt You, Billy Radcliffe, Horrible Day, Speedy Marie, All My Ghosts, Black Letter Day, and Dog Gone all seem like they should have had Casey Kasem counting them down at some point.
But when you look at this week's Billboard hits (1. Baby Boy: Beyonce Featuring Sean Paul 2. Shake Ya Tailfeather: Nelly, P Diddy & Murphy Lee 3. Get Low: Lil Jon & The East Side Boyz Featuring Ying Yang Twins 4. Right Thurr: Chingy 5. Frontin': Pharrell Featuring Jay-Z
6. Damn!: YoungBloodZ Featuring Lil Jon 7. P.I.M.P.: 50 Cent
8. Into You: Fabolous Featuring Tamia/Ashanti 9. Stand Up: Ludacris Featuring Shawnna 10. Where Is The Love?: Black Eyed Peas) it begins to make sense--the kids have got to be able to dance to it at recess! |
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Stuart
- The Clopser -
China
2291 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 23:47:36
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Off the new album I reckon The Snake would make a good single...
Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about? |
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Scarla O
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
947 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 01:06:05
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Songs that could have been hits?
FB: Czar
Teenager: Freedom Rock
Ray: Jesus Was Right
Catholics: The Man Who Was Too Loud
Pistolero: I Think I'm Starting To Lose It
Dog: Bullet
BLD: BLD
Devils: Whiskey In Your Shoes
SMYT: Horrible Day
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The POPE
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
5 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 03:15:42
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It has to be thalaissocracy, the greatest beginning to a song of all time although arguably, in the end, undermined by a below par workman(like) solo/outro, which was why lyle workman was both a blessing and a curse in the early days of frank black's solo career (who's with me!!!) the outro lacks the musical variety/spark of his cult of ray/ Fb + C's stuff. But the song itself was bouncy enough to ignite the tigger in any teenage heart.
I'm just pissin' off off off off!
THat's damn good stuff! |
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Scarla O
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
947 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 03:22:04
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Thalassocracy IS a fantastic song. |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 03:27:26
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Good call with Thalassocracy, thats my choice for now as well I think.
Where abouts in the UK are u, pope?
"I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid"
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 04:01:36
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Actually, I've changed my mind. Again. I think Sir Rockabye could've been a hit, only cos its far more accessible than most of FB's stuff.
It would be a similar situation to Extreme 'More Than Words'...
"I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid"
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Malax
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1340 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 05:30:09
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| Definately Billy Radcliffe. I was listening to the corals new single the other day 'Bill Mckie" and thought if that could be a single so could Billy Radcliffe. |
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The POPE
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
5 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 05:52:39
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I'm a northumberland born essex livin' FB fan, cheeseman, but, are you crazy, only in the 50's would sir rockabye have been a hit. THe only other option on 'Teenager of the year' surely has to b 'whatever happened to the pong' because its both catchy and hilarious; the idea of frank hustling all these drunken card sharps at pong is lyrical genius.
paddle to the paddle, side to the side....
BALL IN MACHINE!!!! |
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FrequencyOfGlow
- FB Fan -
USA
157 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 09:49:16
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San Antonio, TX, which I actually did hear one day on the radio. Quite a moment
I like that lemur, I lick it. That's velvety! |
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blarg007
= Cult of Ray =
USA
493 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2003 : 10:22:45
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everything is new seems obvious
-the 'adult' rock station here in chicago
XRT would have tons of success with a lot
of the catholic's songs. valentine and garuda
i could see especially -nadine also seems obvious
(those two new ones WERE released as singles...)
and one of their dinosaur DJ's admitted in an e-mail
that "they should play frank black..." (lin Braimer
-the same guy who got cussed out by elvis costello
for being the lout on stage who started talking over music
that was being played in memorium for a musician who
had passed away that week).
apparrantly they 'can't' play the catholics stuff for some
reason -they can play the same jayhawks, j. hiatt, wilco
blasters,xtc,jcmellencamp and other like sounds ad nauseum
and not but one tune ever (-EVERY time you hear a clash song
IT WILL be should i stay or should i go)..oh well
..d..d.don't get me started..
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doolittle68
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Posted - 11/13/2003 : 14:58:00
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You are right. Western Star is the prime "hit" song. The problem with San Antonio is it is to simple, but is still my no 2 choice for a "hit" song. Los Angeles is not very good but came in the right time.
Alone in your chamber: I Need Peace is the ultimate Neil Young song. |
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1834 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2003 : 15:10:03
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| I think My Favorite Kiss coulda been promoed to country & western stations with some success. Just kidding, sorta, but it does seem that if Frank wanted to pick up extra coins he could write country songs and really offer the genre something new. Of course he might damage his cred with the alterna-crowd. Guess he's still waiting to hear from Austin City Limits. |
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1222 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2003 : 15:21:32
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id say a lot of songs from teenager of the year would do very well nowadays.
"Joan my Clerk of Trompe / And You'll be chick-a-be enlightened" |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2003 : 15:50:57
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quote:
Originally posted by misleadtheworld
id say a lot of songs from teenager of the year would do very well nowadays.
"Joan my Clerk of Trompe / And You'll be chick-a-be enlightened"
I agree. Especially Sir Rockabye.
"I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid"
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1738 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2003 : 23:02:21
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I remember "Men In Black" got a little bit of airplay around here, but I think it's just because the local dumbass DJ's in Knoxville thought it was a tie-in with the "Men In Black" movie that came out with Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones. Then when it didn't appear in the movie it stopped playing.
If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe.
Carl Sagan
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glacial906
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1738 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2003 : 23:09:29
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It all depends on what kind of radio station you're talking about...94.3 around here plays all rock, like Linkin Park, Disturbed, etc., but happily FB has some songs that would fit in with this, and almost every other kind of musical genre there is out there...
I'd have to say:
Hang On To Your Ego
White Noise Maker
Men In Black
I Need Peace
the Swimmer
Off of BLD I want to say "End of Miles," because that is a FANTASTIC song, but probably a little bit too twangy for local radio around here...I'll have to go with Jane the Queen of Love...
Modern Age
Massif Centrale
If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe.
Carl Sagan
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