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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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 Posted - 11/10/2003 : 10:31:51
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i'm wondering if spice is bad for your health because i love spicy food. very very spicy. mexican, indian.. you name it.
i put hot sauce on everything.. red peppers, habanero peppers, jalapeno peppers.. bring it on.
am i going to die? |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
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Posted - 11/10/2003 : 10:42:19
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I think your stomach might explode
and your liver is workin overtime
but I think you'll be alright. |
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
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Posted - 11/10/2003 : 10:46:21
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nope - It's good for you. Hot peppers aid the digestive system, and can also act as an antibacterial/antimicrobial agent (like lime juice in ceviche - a raw fish recipe). The current Western diet of refined carbohydrates and transfats has done more harm than any spicy food....rant over ;) - eat up!
edit(obviously, everything in moderation...or trips to the bathroom can get a little uncomfortable..heheh!)
 "I partied with the Cult of Frank / Bob ate all the dip" |
Edited by - apl4eris on 11/10/2003 10:47:55 |
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
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Posted - 11/10/2003 : 10:48:04
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Really?
well there ya go Floop. |
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big_galoof
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 11/10/2003 : 10:53:44
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floop - you put hot sauce on habanero peppers? you really *are* hard core!
TBG |
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
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Posted - 11/10/2003 : 11:07:43
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hahah! sorry if I came across sounding like a know-it-all - I just happen to have a love affair with spicy food as well. The spicier the better!
I should say that there is definitely one way in which hot peppers can be bad for you: if you grow your own habanero plants....do not pick them or cut them without gloves. My husband recently ignored my admonition (I only knew it was dangerous because my Mom had done that very thing) during our salsa-making marathon this summer...let's just say that luckily, he had not ventured to the bathroom before his hands began to burn...;)
P.S. If that ever happens to ya, though, we found out on gardenweb.com (in the forums) that isopropyl alcohol works well, or anything with milk fats, like butter or whole milk.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 11/10/2003 : 11:12:20
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apl4eris - yeah, i've had that problem.. after chopping some habanero peppers i did, in fact, use the old restroom.. not a sensation i'd like to experience again soon.
galoof - i am hardcore. yeah, sometimes even those habaneros need a little spicing up.. too mild for me. :)
anyway, that's good news about spice. thanks apl4eris.. i guess it makes sense that it would be sort of an antioxidant. but it's not bad for your liver then? |
Edited by - floop on 11/10/2003 11:14:16 |
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
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Posted - 11/10/2003 : 11:23:24
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Here's some stuff about the curative effects of capsacin (the element that causes the spiciness - BTW, if you like hot, try a little of the bottled pure "Cap" - we have some, and you use a dropper for application! - I'll try to find out where you can get it if you are interested). Apparenty it has been proven to kill liver cancers:
[edit: link removed - too long]
"I partied with the Cult of Frank / Bob ate all the dip" |
Edited by - apl4eris on 11/10/2003 11:38:35 |
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
4800 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 11:37:50
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And one more, then I'll be quiet:
http://www.usaweekend.com/01_issues/010107/010107eatsmart.html
Wow. The more studies that are done, the less they seem to agree on anything...hahahah! I'm gonna keep eatin spicy food. Screw the science!
"A hot pepper pop quiz"
"Test your nutritional sizzle with these six true-or-false questions.
The stuff that gives chili peppers their fire -- and their health benefits -- is the unique chemical capsaicin. It's concentrated in the white "ribs," membranes and seeds of green and red chili peppers such as jalapeņo and serrano.
True or false?
Hot peppers damage your stomach
This week's recipe: Hot Pepper Quesadillas
False. "Chili peppers get a bad rap," says David Y. Graham, M.D., of the Baylor College of Medicine. To prove they don't injure the stomach, he actually put ground jalapeņos through a tube directly into subjects' stomachs and took photos; there was no sign of erosion of the stomach lining or other harm. In fact, Graham says, research suggests hot peppers protect the stomach. His advice: "If it doesn't hurt you, eat them."
Hot peppers cure ulcers
False. Believe it or not, some medical researchers tout hot peppers as a new ulcer "cure." The reason: Bacteria called H. pylori cause most ulcers, and in test tubes, chili's capsaicin stops those bacteria dead. But not in human stomachs, Graham says. He recently fed people infected with H. pylori a meal laced with six sliced fresh jalapeņos. The hot stuff had no effect on the ulcer-causing bacteria. Conclusion: It appears hot peppers don't cause, cure or aggravate ulcers.
Hot peppers promote heartburn
True. Hot peppers do not cause new cases of heartburn but do worsen existing heartburn, finds Sheila Stanley, Ph.D., of the University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center. In her new study, people who had four or more heartburn attacks a week ate a sausage-egg breakfast with either a 5-milligram cayenne capsule or a dummy capsule. The cayenne induced earlier and more severe heartburn, as well as more bloating and abdominal pain. Researchers concluded that peppers somehow promote a more toxic response in heartburn sufferers.
Hot peppers lower cholesterol
False. Popular reports to the contrary, there is no good evidence hot peppers benefit cholesterol. But they may help combat heart disease by acting as a mild, transient anticoagulant. In Thai studies, jalapeņos boosted subjects' blood clot-dissolving activity. And capsaicin prolongs bleeding in laboratory animals. Capsaicin also fights inflammation, a newly identified villain in heart disease.
Hot peppers cause cancer Probably false. One large Mexican study suggested that eating lots of hot peppers boosted the risk of stomach cancer. But a large Italian study found just the opposite: Eating more chilies reduced the odds of stomach cancer. Populations around the world who eat lots of peppers do not have more stomach cancer, so experts do not think it's a worry. In some test- tube and animal tests, capsaicin even has an anti-cancer effect, blocking cancer and slowing tumor growth.
Hot peppers help control weight
True. Surprisingly, hot peppers may be fat-busters. Past British research found spicy foods, including hot sauce, speed up metabolism, burning extra calories. New research at Canada's Laval University shows hot sauce with capsaicin suppresses appetite and reduces calorie intake. Men who got an appetizer with hot sauce ate 200 fewer calories at lunch and in a later snack than men who did not.
Hot peppers help you breathe better
True. If you have asthma, emphysema, chronic bronchitis, sinusitis, congestion from a cold or the flu, or other breathing problems, eat hot peppers and hot sauce, advises Irwin Ziment, M.D., professor of medicine at UCLA. He says hot peppers work like expectorants. Capsaicin in the mouth, throat and stomach triggers a flash flood of fluids in the air passages, breaking up mucus, flushing out the sinuses and washing away irritants. "When you're congested," Ziment says, "it's better to eat salsa than to suck on a menthol cough drop."
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Johnny Yen
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 11/10/2003 : 11:45:52
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| Me and my lady grew jalapenos, habaneros and other hot peppers this past summer, which was fine. The only problem was after I had been cutting some of the peppers, I didn't realize the capsaicin had stayed behind under my fingernails even after washing. That night *WARNING SEXUAL CONTENT* when we got involved in some sweet love making, she was saying how it was tingling more than usual. About 2 hours later she said it was more of a burning. Welp, some of that capsaicin had come off in one of her more sensitive regions. OOps. Now I scrub under the fingernails real real well after I complete pepper prep. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 11/10/2003 : 11:47:20
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that's interesting about the capsacin.. i've always wondered what it is exactly that makes it spicy.
anyway, even it was bad i wouldn't stop eating it. it's good to know that, apparantly, it isn't.. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 11:59:37
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what are some of your favorite hot sauces apl4eris?
though it's hardly hot (in the grand spectrum) Cholula is a good all purpose sauce. lately i've been going through a bottle of hot sauce like every 2 weeks..
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Johnny Yen
= Cult of Ray =
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Canada
6556 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 12:07:14
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Did you ever buy hotsauce where you had to sign a waiver?
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 12:17:31
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thanks for the link johnny. I gotta get me some of that "Red Savina" :
The Hottest
To date, the hottest chile pepper in the world, according to the Guinness Book of World Records is the "Red Savina" habanero. It measured an amazing 577,000 Scoville Units. To put it into perspective, an average habanero is around 100,000 to 200,000. A jalapeno ranks from 5,000 to 7,000. The hottest product on the market is The Source made by Original Juan. This pure extract is a mind-blowing 7.1 MILLION Scoville Units (Tears of Joy sells this, but at the store location only). Pure crystalline capsaicin is 16 million Scoville Units.
has anyone seen that Simpson's episode where Homer enters the hottest chile eating contest? one of my faves.. |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 11/10/2003 : 12:20:03
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You know that's Johnny Cash that does the voice of the talking fox?
"Find your soul-mate, Homer..."
 "I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid"
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
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Posted - 11/10/2003 : 14:13:21
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Ummmm-mmm-MMM!
http://www.hotsauceworld.com/purecap.html
I usually like recipes that are spicy, vs. adding a hot sauce to a dish. We use japanese chiles in our pad thai, getting the peanut oil to sizzling temp, then throw several dried chilies into it, til they turn black, infuse the oil w/the flavor, then toss the first ingredients into the wok. If you leave em in, be careful, cause if you eat one by mistake it'll make you choke involuntarily.
When we went to New Orleans, none of the cajun food was spicy at all - the best, most spicy/flavorful cajun was at a hole-in-the-wall that I try not to tell too many people about (closely held secret) but I like you all so much, I'll tell ya: it's called "Coop's Place", and it's really close to the open-air market and Cafe Le Monde.
I love the spiciest of Thai, Chinese, Mexican, and Indian dishes, but most of the time we end up having to ask for extra-spicy if we are at a restaurant. Even then sometimes they think you are a frail gringo and can't really handle the good stuff ;)
"I partied with the Cult of Frank / Bob ate all the dip" |
Edited by - apl4eris on 11/10/2003 14:14:03 |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 11/10/2003 : 14:51:40
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i don't think even this so called "pure cap" could satiate my spice needs. i'm pretty hardcore. :)
i see what you're saying about liking spicy recipes vs. adding hot sauce, but there are so many things that aren't spicy that benefit from hot sauce.. ie. breakfast foods (egg burritos, omlettes etc), soups, and (call me crazy) pizza. yes, try a little bit of your favorite hot sauce on some pizza. you'll never turn back (if you're a fan of hot sauce).. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
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Posted - 11/10/2003 : 14:58:00
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As far as spicy goes
I'm a fool for Ketchup, I even like my tomatoes better with ketchup
as well as my pizza's
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 11/10/2003 : 15:16:56
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I'm a big girl, I would still go for 'medium' at Nando's. Does it make you feel big and clever if you can handle hot food? I've often wondered.
Also, would dripping wax on your tongue actually work?
"I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid"
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
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Posted - 11/10/2003 : 15:18:58
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work for what? curiouser and curiouser...
"I partied with the Cult of Frank / Bob ate all the dip" |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2003 : 15:23:06
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quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000
I'm a big girl, I would still go for 'medium' at Nando's. Does it make you feel big and clever if you can handle hot food? I've often wondered.
yes. eating spicy food makes me feel very manly. that's actually the only reason i eat it. it has nothing to do with actually enjoying the taste. |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 11/10/2003 : 15:23:19
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Old English tradition (not really).
See floops post re Simpsons above. Hallucinogenic chilies, talking foxes, giant turtles... its all good.
"I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid"
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 11/10/2003 : 15:25:24
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OK, floop, that made my post look odd, I meant it as a reply to apl!
The thing is, I can't taste the food if I can't feel my mouth, am I an abnormal freak? in this respect, anyway?
"I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid"
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blackpurse
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 11/10/2003 : 15:35:51
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I do know tht peppers do help in weight loss, by raising metabloism. (sp?) Also, when steaknsabre and I feel a cold or flu coming on, it's off to an Indian or Thai restaurant (the thais make a wonderful spicy chickeny soup called Tom Yum that really helps) and it seems to chase away any nasty bugs that might be trying to get us! !!!!
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 11/10/2003 : 15:39:40
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| There's a hypothesis that people in more tropical regions tend to have spicier foods because food spoils quicker in the tropics and the spices slow the spoilage. Are there any spicy foods in Scandanavia? It's just a hypothesis, but I think it has been shown that spoilage is slowed by spices, like apl4eris said. |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 11/10/2003 : 15:43:16
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Did you know that the hotter the climate, the hotter the curry? In India, the further you go south, and the hotter the climate gets, the hotter the curry. This would fit in with darwin's hypothesis, but makes my mouth shrivel up in fear.
Really, you can keep your vindaloo.
"I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid"
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Stuart
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China
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Posted - 11/10/2003 : 17:57:59
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Great!! I love spicy food and eat insanely spicy food every day. This is music to my ears as I was getting a little worried about the amount I eat and if it is bad for you.... Yippppeeeee!
Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about? |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
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Posted - 11/10/2003 : 18:28:26
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As i understand it, they eat spicey food in hot climates because it actually helps the body cool down.
Thus, the lack in colder climates.
I think we react strongly to hot food for a reason, and so i consume it in moderation..not too much so a little still seems 'hot'. Nice to preserve the effectiveness too. |
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Stuart
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China
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Posted - 11/10/2003 : 20:31:51
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Recently I have actually calmed down on eating severely hot food as I'd heard it was bad for you... but tonight I am going out for a real arse burner of a hotpot! Spicy food is without a shadow of a doubt the best food in the world, Vindaloo's, insanely hot chilli etc etc.... I used to drink Tabasco when I lived in England, the stuff is gorgeous, in fact the last time I got drunk at a restaurant here in Beijing I woke up the next morning to find my pocket crammed full of Tabasco bottles whihc I had drunkenly stolen the night before.
I have come across some stuff that is too damn spicy though.... called 'Daves Insanity Sauce,' that nearly made me cry.
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
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Posted - 11/11/2003 : 21:46:21
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Spicy food might be great going in, but god help your asshole when it comes out.
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Little Black Francis
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Posted - 11/11/2003 : 23:36:49
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I love food. I am so fucking hungry, I just ate the most disgusting shit. I won't mention what it was.
I also had some spicey ckix wings in a black styro-foam box and I set them on my car and I almost made it to Amar's house when I hears a crash. I left them on the top of my car and they made it over half of way there. To-go boxes aren't crash tested, this one was broken in over a dozen places. I made the most killer Thai BBQ and it splattered ecvrywhere on the road and I went back for them, gathered them, and put them onto a plate at Amar's house and we ate them all merrily. I want mikkey dees.
I'm so into candy right now. i want starburst, skittles, chewey sprees or sweethearts, mike and ikes... fuck, give me candy |
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Hordak
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Posted - 11/11/2003 : 23:41:56
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Dude, you ate them off the road?
My wife has a split personality, and I hate both of them.
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