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bedrock_barney
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
871 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2003 :  07:03:39  Show Profile
Apparently El Presidente will be visiting the UK later this month. I was astounded to hear that this is the first official state visit by an American president for 80 years. According to the British press we will be giving him a David Blaine type welcome and about 100,000 protesters are expected in London (seriously). That’s a whole lotta eggs coming his way!

So how is he doing back in the US? I read today that his approval rating is dropping like a stone, partly due to US unemployment figures and also because of the ongoing Iraq situation. Tony Blair has had a right mauling in the press over Iraq but he seems to be holding his position. Possibly because the opposition parties are unable to seize advantage - the Tories (Conservatives) are imploding and the Liberal Democrats cannot quite get their rating high enough to trouble Labour.

So will George W get a second term and does he genuinely think that he (and American foreign policy) is/are unfairly misunderstood around the world?

ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2003 :  07:26:13  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage
God, I hope he doesn't get a second term. He's such an idiot. But a lot of American's are idiots too...and many tend to like the familiar. I hope I am underestimating us though - his stupid dad only got one term so I hope that will be a pattern for the Bushes. Many people are upset about the war and hopefully that will carry over when they go into those little voting closets.
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2003 :  07:59:20  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage
Oh yeah, voting. That could be a prickly issue, however. Did ya see the thread on voters' rights? http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3738

I am of a very negative opinion about the administration, the democratic process, and the two-party system right now, so I will hold my tongue.


Our administration's foreign policy:
www.newamericancentury.org

Edited by - apl4eris on 11/03/2003 08:05:03
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bedrock_barney
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
871 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2003 :  08:19:16  Show Profile
Not heard much from Al Gore in recent times. Is he planning to run again for the next election?
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2003 :  08:26:39  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
Yeah, I feel like I don't have enough options with a four (soon to be three) major parties. I'd really like to see Bush gone, but I would put my money on him staying for a second term. On the plus side, we shall soon be seeing the end of Jean Chretien and likely the beginning of Paul Martin. Not that anyone other than us Canadians care, but Jean was given to nincompoopery.


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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2003 :  08:51:33  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by bedrock_barney

Not heard much from Al Gore in recent times. Is he planning to run again for the next election?

Nope. No Al Gore this time around. But if you liked Gore's ticket, Leiberman's here! ;) (ugh)
A friend of mine has developed a score sheet for the current Democratic candidates, if you are curious about who they are and what their stand on issues is. The concept is pretty cool: http://www.x13design.com/bipolar/right/04scores/

"I can't stand all this sex on the television. I mean, I keep falling off!"
"I partied with the Cult of Frank / Bob ate all the dip"
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1439 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2003 :  09:05:07  Show Profile
i say give arnie the presidency as well. up and atom.

Television! Teacher, mother, secret lover.
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2003 :  09:13:22  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage
That is so frightening, Barry. Eh.
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bedrock_barney
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
871 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2003 :  09:13:59  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by apl4eris

quote:
Originally posted by bedrock_barney

Not heard much from Al Gore in recent times. Is he planning to run again for the next election?

Nope. No Al Gore this time around. But if you liked Gore's ticket, Leiberman's here! ;) (ugh)
A friend of mine has developed a score sheet for the current Democratic candidates, if you are curious about who they are and what their stand on issues is. The concept is pretty cool: http://www.x13design.com/bipolar/right/04scores/




Like the score sheet concept! Ralph Nader to win then?! Poor old George W takes a bit of a battering!

I was as much interested in the topics that are considered votes winners/losers than some of the actual viewpoints. Can't believe that abortion is still a mainline issue for example. The US is an intriguing country. At the forefront of technology (space exploration, computers for example) yet almost medieval-like with other issues (like abortion, gun control etc).

Don't know much about Leiberman. I'll have a browse through his resume.
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2003 :  09:22:32  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage
Here's a full list of the democratic candidates - I forgot that the scoresheet has only a few (the most likey "contendahs" ;) ) http://www.moveon.org/pac/cands/

"I can't stand all this sex on the television. I mean, I keep falling off!"
"I partied with the Cult of Frank / Bob ate all the dip"
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2003 :  09:24:19  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage
Leiberman inspires a serious feeling of the turning of sharp-pointed objects and draino in the pit of my stomach, BTW.

"I can't stand all this sex on the television. I mean, I keep falling off!"
"I partied with the Cult of Frank / Bob ate all the dip"
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the swimmer
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1602 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2003 :  10:59:20  Show Profile  Visit the swimmer's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by bazza

i say give arnie the presidency as well. up and atom.

Television! Teacher, mother, secret lover.



He can't be. He's not born here.

Give him Kaligfahnya and let it go at that.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2003 :  12:05:26  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by the swimmer

quote:
Originally posted by bazza

i say give arnie the presidency as well. up and atom.

Television! Teacher, mother, secret lover.



He can't be. He's not born here.

Give him Kaligfahnya and let it go at that.



Orrin Hatch is trying to push an amendment to allow individuals born outside of the US to become President.

Edited by - darwin on 11/03/2003 12:06:58
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~

USA
4800 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2003 :  12:08:24  Show Profile  Visit apl4eris's Homepage
Orrin Hatch, along with several others, is also trying to remove the sunset provisions on the Patriot Act, etc.

"I can't stand all this sex on the television. I mean, I keep falling off!"
"I partied with the Cult of Frank / Bob ate all the dip"
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2003 :  20:44:32  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
Explain. Also, is that Bob? Cause he's changed since you & I partied together. His teeth seem to have whitened since smoking that pipe. Weird.


"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened"
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2003 :  07:49:41  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Orrin Hatch is trying to push an amendment to allow individuals born outside of the US to become President.


I'm really not a big supporter of the law that a President has to have been born in the country. What does where you're born have to do with your loyalty? On the other hand, if it keeps Arnold out of the White House...

-Nathan
And how does lemur's skin reflect the sea?
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bedrock_barney
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
871 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2003 :  07:53:34  Show Profile
It would make politics more interesting.

Vinnie Jones for Prime Minister!!
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bedrock_barney
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
871 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2003 :  08:01:19  Show Profile
Back to my original post. Maybe George Bush could have a stint in David Blaine's box...with a subtle twist. Perhaps he should have to eat say 10 lbs of cheese each day. I'd pay to watch that - he wouldn't have time to talk as well which would be a bonus.
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the swimmer
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1602 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2003 :  11:13:26  Show Profile  Visit the swimmer's Homepage
Maybe when he's there y'all can introduce him to some really fucking hot curry and he'll throw up all over Blair.

It would serve the both of them right.

Maybe you can get him hooked on "Red Dwarf" and he'll just like, stay there or something.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2003 :  15:29:29  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage
Barney, what date is Bush over here? Protesting sounds like a giggle.
I remember following the US elections a couple of years ago and seriously not being able to believe Dubya won.

I take it you've all read Stupid White Men? Hugely enlightening book.



"I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid"


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gary13th
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
632 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2003 :  15:39:36  Show Profile  Visit gary13th's Homepage  Click to see gary13th's MSN Messenger address
bizarrely I was in Florida at the time of the recounts....maybe I should have written out lots of "al gore" slips and dropped them thru a window on a polling station or something...

Michael moore for president !



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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2003 :  15:50:01  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage
Actually, all joking aside, I reckon Hilary Clinton should run. She couldn't help but make a better job of it than the current bunch of jokers. Also, I'm on an Everett True-esque feminist tip...


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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2003 :  17:43:39  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by the swimmer

Maybe when he's there y'all can introduce him to some really fucking hot curry and he'll throw up all over Blair.

It would serve the both of them right.

Maybe you can get him hooked on "Red Dwarf" and he'll just like, stay there or something.



That's a great suggestion! Maybe lace the curry with laxatives so that Blair shits over Bush, then Bush shits all over Blair in childish retaliation. I seriously doubt that Blair could handle a hot curry as it would burn his silky eloquent tongue.

Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about?
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bedrock_barney
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
871 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  01:42:49  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000

Barney, what date is Bush over here? Protesting sounds like a giggle.
I remember following the US elections a couple of years ago and seriously not being able to believe Dubya won.

I take it you've all read Stupid White Men? Hugely enlightening book.



"I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid"



I think it is about the 18th/19th November for a couple of days...if he can remember where London is located. It's a long way from good 'ol Texas. I hope he is able to cope with the funnee accents and rain.

Part way through Michael Moore's book. Doesn't hold back does he!?




Edited by - bedrock_barney on 11/05/2003 01:44:20
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  03:25:23  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage
Barney, wanna go down and pelt him with eggs?


"I have joined the Cult Of Frank/And I have dearly paid"


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bedrock_barney
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
871 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  04:09:58  Show Profile
I would love to but I have to work to pay the bills etc etc. Also it is a terrible waste of good eggs (on a bad egg)

How about this then:



It came from this, very very funny, web site:

http://www.bloggerheads.com/can_weblogs/bush_protest.asp
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gracie
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
573 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  10:19:46  Show Profile
That most be the funniest picture i've ever seen. Well done.

What about Hillary, would any of you vote for her?
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  20:34:49  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage
You can tell by the facial expressions that Bush has just shot his load, and Tony Blair is thinking 'is he wearing protection????'

Who's the man that won't cop out when there's danger all about?
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