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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
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Posted - 11/04/2003 :  10:15:37  Show Profile  Click to see Coldheartofstone's MSN Messenger address
don't be scerd... i got a new per o' shoes tuday
flyin in my er force one.... I love Erybody

need i say more?


She was looking for some...place....to go....
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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =

USA
899 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2003 :  11:08:56  Show Profile  Visit Chris Knight's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by ramona

I'm confused! If it is pronouced like I spelled it then why is it "eh"? I say EH as it is spelled, so now I am all lost and stuff. Ay?

I'm confusled as well. Dave Noisy always says "aye".
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the swimmer
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1602 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2003 :  11:11:49  Show Profile  Visit the swimmer's Homepage
Dave is a Pirate. It's what pirates say/

Aye, matey.

Aye, Jimbo.
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blackpurse
= Cult of Ray =

USA
299 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2003 :  11:17:38  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by bedrock_barney

You want to hear footballers (soccer players) being interviewed on TV over here. They live in a world of cliches. I swear that my 6 year old has a better grasp of the english language at times.

"football is all about scoring goals."

"The lads done great"

"It's a game of two halves"

One good one:

"He couldn't hit a cow's arse with a banjo"




What's worse than football cliches is those comments on the obvious. Honest to god, I heard Madden once say: "Well, the team that scores the most goals is going to win this football game." I called to my husband in my dumbest dumb blonde voice, "Hey honey, listen to this -- John Madden says that the team that scores the most goals is going to win today -- has it ever happened that the team that scored the most goals lost? How fascinating!"



"Sacred cows make the best burgers!"
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2003 :  11:19:49  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
True, Dave has been known for his piratey nature and hence his residence on the piratey coast.

As for why "eh" is pronounced as a hard a as in play and not a soft e as in fed, I don't know. I suppose it's the shortened version of 'eigh' but I certainly wasn't consulted when the term was officially put in the books. Damned governments. I never really thought about it, actually, till you pointed that out Ramona. Sometimes I read it, and it's a soft 'e' (generally when not phrased as a question or said questioningly), and as a hard 'a' the rest of the time.

Sweet Maria, they need to teach these things in the schools. :)


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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2003 :  11:45:13  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage
They should teach it in schools! Get us all on the same page, people!
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Crispy Water
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
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Posted - 11/04/2003 :  18:02:48  Show Profile  Visit Crispy Water's Homepage
Okay, here's the final word: to Canadians, "eh" is just innately interpreted as a hard a. The rest of the world isn't cool or smart enough to get it. Nothing to feel bad about; you can't control where you're born.

Nothing is ever something.
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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =

USA
899 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2003 :  19:15:59  Show Profile  Visit Chris Knight's Homepage
So, how do Canadians pronounce "eh" when it's meant to be interpreted as a verbal shrug? Still a hard a?

[EDIT] - Oops, accidentally hit edit instead of reply.

Edited by - Cult_Of_Frank on 11/05/2003 09:28:49
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Crispy Water
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
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Posted - 11/05/2003 :  01:34:24  Show Profile  Visit Crispy Water's Homepage
Come on now, that's verbal language. It's not spelled any way at all, especially not the sacred "eh."

Nothing is ever something.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
8201 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  03:43:41  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank

Ramona - "Eh" is Canadian, though it is pronounced as you've spelled it.

Carolyn - I hate to see American spellings of words cropping up more and more frequently, but since we use American software with American spell checks, things like honour become honor and colour become color and cheque become check. The most frustrating Americanism for me is their insistence at mispronouncing "buoy". The word is derivative from buoyancy/buoyant, and somehow most Americans seem to know how to pronounce that one, yet fail at the smaller version. Boo-ee? What the hell are you talking about?! I heard a Canadian say it the other day and wanted to smack him, though I have no idea why such a trivial and stupid thing pisses me off so much. I suppose it's a pet peeve, and this is our thread for being anal about really trivial language-type anomalies, though, so...

It does drive me up the wall to see someone use its instead of it's or vice versa. Or to use an apostrophe for pluralization. Or no apostrophe for possession. Or dropping of words like "are", mostly done by those who find something endearing about talking 'street'. Eg. "You gettin' fat, girl!"

I'm not immune to colloquialistic pitfalls, but I do try to avoid them. People seem to think that writing with no punctuation, cringe-worthy grammar, and so forth are fine on the internet or in emails or other electronic comminications. But many times, the only way you know the person is through these electronic means (how many of you know me personally?), and the long and short of it is that if you don't pay any attention to what/how you're writing, then it will show and you WILL be judged by how you write because there is nothing else to evaluate. When someone sends me an email with easy words misspelled (or even many words mistyped), no capitalization or punctuation, and awful grammar, I am forced to presume that they're perhaps not the most brilliant minds I've interacted with. It doesn't take much or even any effort to write coherently, so why not?

Those are my feelings on the matter - maybe it comes from editing a newspaper, maybe from a crush on an English teacher, whatever, I'm anal and accept it. I don't expect nor deliver perfection, but a little effort goes a long way. That's all.

For the record, I find that members of this forum generally do pretty well compared to what I've seen...

PS I do abuse the ellipsis but thoroughly enjoy doing so. Just try and stop me!


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In another random apportioning of blame, I find text messaging to be at fault in this issue. Honestly, whats CUL8R all about? I use predictive typing and thus words spelt correctly in my SMS communication. It doesn't hurt to use correct grammar, speeling and punctuation, does it? Or am I mistaken.

quote:
You want to hear footballers (soccer players) being interviewed on TV over here. They live in a world of cliches. I swear that my 6 year old has a better grasp of the english language at times.

"Very much so". Listen out for this one. Also listen out for Garth Crooks and concentrate on the questions he asks. Some of these are so stupid as to be hilarious.

quote:
I'm confusled as well. Dave Noisy always says "aye".

Aye is Northern or Scottish for yes. As in: "Aye, lad, git soom higgis doon ya!" (traditional Scottish phraseology) or "Aye, Stay ont roads, don't go ont moor." (traditional Yorkshire greeting).



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Scarla O
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
947 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  05:27:13  Show Profile  Visit Scarla O's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by ramona

Canadian would be "I know, ay".

I personally can't stand when people say "U-man" when they mean "human". Say the H people! Also the whole craze of "you know what I'm sayin" kind of goes with this topic as a whole. I have heard kids talking and saying that EVERY OTHER SENTANCE. It's really annoying.



Ahhh, but by that rationale you should pronounce 'herb' with the 'h' and i know that some of you Americans get a good deal of satisfaction from pronouncing it 'erb'
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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <

3648 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  08:03:18  Show Profile
I say 'erb all the time and saying it give me little if any satisfaction based on phonetics and dialectual differences.

All I care is that it is some good shit. K?

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ain't it funny how the "don't fuck with me!" nooch
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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
2025 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  08:40:25  Show Profile  Click to see Coldheartofstone's MSN Messenger address
What the FUCK is the internet...?


She was looking for some...place....to go....
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  09:29:05  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Chris Knight

So, how do Canadians pronounce "eh" when it's meant to be interpreted as a verbal shrug? Still a hard a?

[EDIT] - Oops, accidentally hit edit instead of reply.



No, then we throw an 'm' in front of it, and it becomes meh. As in metric. :)


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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =

USA
899 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  09:44:07  Show Profile  Visit Chris Knight's Homepage
Meh, eh?
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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <

3648 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  09:47:55  Show Profile
never mind, eh?

Edited by - Little Black Francis on 11/05/2003 09:51:34
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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
2025 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  09:59:00  Show Profile  Click to see Coldheartofstone's MSN Messenger address
fuckin, eh


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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  10:07:28  Show Profile
like take off eh
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  10:09:10  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
Ah, Fubar.

Meh was popularized in The Simpsons:

Lisa: We're the MTV generation - we feel neither highs nor lows.
Homer: Really? What's it like?
Lisa: Meh.

Clearly they have a Canadian writer on staff.


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Coldheartofstone
* Dog in the Sand *

Canada
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Posted - 11/05/2003 :  10:11:17  Show Profile  Click to see Coldheartofstone's MSN Messenger address
GIVE ER!!

ya hoser...




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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  10:19:43  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
Well, my name is Deaner.


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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  10:23:18  Show Profile
so just keep givener.

I was thinking Bob & Doug tho.
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Crispy Water
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
819 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  19:16:25  Show Profile  Visit Crispy Water's Homepage
My buddy got a "Given 'er" hat made with the Fubar font. He's coming to that BSS show, I'll see if I can get him to wear it.

Nothing is ever something.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2003 :  06:34:46  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
Sweeeeeeeeet. Did he make it or buy it?


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Crispy Water
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
819 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2003 :  10:18:03  Show Profile  Visit Crispy Water's Homepage
He had it custom-made. So I guess maybe that counts as a bit of both.

Nothing is ever something.
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