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Jettison
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USA
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 Posted - 10/09/2003 : 13:06:18
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i just got the subbacultcha boot (leysin festival, ch 11jul91).
great show.
i love the post doolittle concerts, but they're definitely not as tight as the alphabetical sets.
-jettison
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Edited by - Jettison on 10/09/2003 13:27:13 |
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2003 : 14:08:44
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Is this just the one song or an entire concert called Subbacultcha? Maybe you can post about it in the FTP section and get it uploaded.
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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1058 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2003 : 15:38:18
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I thought that you weren't allowed to upload boots to the ftp?
My bone used to have a little machine,i must have misplaced it |
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2003 : 17:04:15
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you can't just upload them yourself but I believe you can ask for them to be uploaded. Then again there is very little Pixies stuff on the FTP and I think that they want to keep it to a minimum so who knows?
Semper ubi sub ubi. |
Edited by - realmeanmotorscutor on 10/09/2003 17:07:54 |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2003 : 23:37:13
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They want legal stuff on the FTP like radio concerts
''it's not a box, it's a submarine'' |
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DruggedBunny
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
395 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2003 : 04:12:31
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Being off the radio doesn't really make them any more legal -- the copyright in the sound recording is still owned by somebody. Besides that, many bootlegs -- Subbacultcha included I think -- are recorded from the radio anyway. Give live bootlegs the OK, Dave and co!
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Jettison
- FB Fan -
USA
228 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2003 : 05:25:10
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it's an entire concert from '91.
i agree with druggedbunny, let's get some boots on the ftp.
these bootlegs are mostly out of print, there's no other way to get them.
do you think the pixies made money off of these bootlegs?
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2003 : 13:47:13
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Altough my first post may imply something different
I'm with you
but it's still illegal
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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/10/2003 : 15:30:08
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I agree with jettison,who in turn agrees with druggedbunny,lets see some pixies concerts on the ftp,you've already got that one off bbc 6,and thats over half a bootleg
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peter radiator
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 10/10/2003 : 16:54:40
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Originally posted by ShakeyShake
I agree with jettison,who in turn agrees with druggedbunny,lets see some pixies concerts on the ftp,you've already got that one off bbc 6,and thats over half a bootleg
My bone used to have a little machine,i must have misplaced it
Up till now, Dave Noisy and his cohorts have been narrowly skirting the bootleg issue by trying to only offer recordings that were actually recorded off of radio or TV, or have been tacitly approved by FB himself (like the pre-Pixies boombox demos).
While it may seem like a silly differentiation, when Frank or The Pixies allowed themselves to appear on radio or TV, they knew in advance there was the liklihood that folks would tape those sounds and might trade them around. In that respect, those doing that are technically infringing on the musicians, but are much more directly infringing on the broadcasters who own the copyright on those particular performances.
If the BBC or any other radio or TV station notices this FTP site and wants the stuff removed, I'm sure Dave will do it. The fact that most everyone connected with Frank and his bands know about what goes on here and have chosen not to demand the stuff be taken off probably has a great deal to do with Dave's decision not to allow just any fan-recorded boot on this site (which many folks still seem to think is actually run by or endorsed by Frank or The Pixies...).
Don't forget - flaws and all, Frank did test the waters for marketing his own live concerts for a while, which would put such an idea in direct competition with the guy who inspired this site.
There's no reason to risk alienating FB, his management, or anyone in his band, when there are plenty of private places springing up every day where everyone can get MP3s of boots like the one you asked about.
Noexx has one, for instance, that archives much more stuff than this FTP probably ever could, and he's made a thread in the Trading section to tell people exactly how to access it for free.
Any way - I'm all for keeping things the way they are. Sometimes half the fun of finding a boot is tring hard to track it down (is my age showing?).
~ Peter Radiator
"Real music is out there and real people are making it." ~ Webb Wilder |
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