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Sheamus
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
345 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2003 :  06:30:26  Show Profile  Visit Sheamus's Homepage  Click to see Sheamus's MSN Messenger address
I just downloaded this song. Very cool original version, interesting to note that the very same sound effect (guitar feedback, whatever it is) from the start of the original was used at the start of The Pixies version (I'm fairly sure, I can't be bothered to get up and play Bossanova).

Anyway, this 60s surf music sounds pretty cool, My dad used to play it sometimes when I was little but I can't remember much of it. Anyone got some good surf bands to check out, either modern or old? Are there many innovative prog surf rock bands around today like Man or Astroman, or are they the only modern day surf band in existance?

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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1222 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2003 :  07:48:10  Show Profile  Visit misleadtheworld's Homepage
If you change your balance to full left or full right you'll notice it's an old recording, instruments panned into left and right. I think it's drums and bass on the right, rhythm and lead on the left.
Good to play along to if you want to play the lead or something. I have a reissue mustang and that has a nice surf sound if you get it right, nice bends in clean with the tremolo bar too.

You might want to check this website out: http://www.surfmusic.com/



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mereubu
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USA
2677 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2003 :  07:56:51  Show Profile  Visit mereubu's Homepage
Here's an old archived surf thread. I love the stuff.

http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=911


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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1764 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2003 :  08:56:37  Show Profile
Hey Sheamus, any chance you could send that song to me via AIM sometime later? I think i might have some surf music on my comp. Whether it's good or not, I don't remember but I can send what I have.
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2003 :  09:25:30  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
I've always really enjoyed surf music and I've always been meaning to get into it more.


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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1834 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2003 :  10:01:32  Show Profile
Rhino has a five volume Rock Instrumental Classics series, volume five being "Surf". Volumes one & two are "the Fifties" & "the Sixties", respectively. All three are simply great, though short by modern standards at about 45 min each. I made a cdr compilation which has long been one of my fave car discs.

Edited by - Erebus on 10/04/2003 10:11:22
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mun chien andalusia
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Italy
2139 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2003 :  10:25:46  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address
cool modern surf bands:
satan's pilgrims
el camminos


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peter radiator
= Cult of Ray =

USA
653 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2003 :  11:10:12  Show Profile
The sound you hear at the beginning of both versions is the sound of someone hitting or kicking a guitar amplifier that utilizes a "spring reverb unit". These old-style reverb units are part of what helped define the booming, echoey tone of "surf guitar". They sound great, but unfortunately, when they're engaged, any strong bump or nudge of the amp will send the inner spring bouncing around and makes all kinds of freaky racket.

One of the best modern-day surf bands would most definitely be San Francisco's The Mermen, who use a lot of Sonic Youth-style feedback noise to stretch their instrumental pieces into epic psychedelic workouts.

Man or Astroman? got a lot of credit for the resurgence of interest in surf-rock, but to my ear, they're shallow poseurs who think much more about their costumes and stage props than the meat behind the songs. This opinion may be colored by the fact that I've dealt with them before, and except for Eric Hubner (whom I have much respect for), they acted like a bunch of spoiled assholes.

Great album art, though.

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mereubu
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USA
2677 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2003 :  11:30:13  Show Profile  Visit mereubu's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Erebus

Rhino has a five volume Rock Instrumental Classics series, volume five being "Surf". Volumes one & two are "the Fifties" & "the Sixties", respectively. All three are simply great, though short by modern standards at about 45 min each. I made a cdr compilation which has long been one of my fave car discs.



Those sound niice. Also, if you want to max-out on surf, Rhino also has a 4 CD Surf Box set that spans from the 50's to the 90's and has a good overview of surf history.


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Crispy Water
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
819 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2003 :  11:46:57  Show Profile  Visit Crispy Water's Homepage
Surf music is definitely where it's at. If you enjoy it enough, check out some Mediterranean folk music; that's where a lot of the ideas come from. Blessings to whoever developed that Danelectro spring reverb box.

Anyone know of any regions with really strong surf scenes right now? I know around here there's one active surf band, and another that plays every six months or so, but I'm always wanting to see more live!

Nothing is ever something.
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Visiting Sasquatch
= Cult of Ray =

USA
451 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2003 :  13:58:06  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by mereubu

quote:
Originally posted by Erebus

Rhino has a five volume Rock Instrumental Classics series, volume five being "Surf". Volumes one & two are "the Fifties" & "the Sixties", respectively. All three are simply great, though short by modern standards at about 45 min each. I made a cdr compilation which has long been one of my fave car discs.



Those sound niice. Also, if you want to max-out on surf, Rhino also has a 4 CD Surf Box set that spans from the 50's to the 90's and has a good overview of surf history.


"I joined the Cult of Frank / And all I got was this lousy icon"



Wow, I did check out that Box set, and I do like it, but everywhere I go, it's going for $150-$300...it's Out Of Print...but it does look great...man. I'm buying disc 5 Erebus...good find.

Have you guys noticed that Surf singles are rehashed over and over again by the old bands? It's like an unwritten rule that they all must cover the same great songs over and over. I still love it though.
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Francis Six
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USA
32 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2003 :  19:03:23  Show Profile
SURF'S UP BRA

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Sheamus
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
345 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2003 :  21:30:41  Show Profile  Visit Sheamus's Homepage  Click to see Sheamus's MSN Messenger address
Wow, lots of great replies, thanks everyone!

realmeanmotorscutor, I added you to AIM, when you're online I'll send you the file.

At the moment I'm downloading the best of Dick Dale, I'll probably go and look for some old surf CDs next time I'm out, there's bound to be a lot of cheap ones around the place.

I really like the way you described The Mermen Peter, I shall definately check them out. I got into Man or Astroman? originally because of the sci-fi cheesiness, I love that stuff, the surf rock asspect of their music has got me interested in checking out the genre on a much deeper level though. I think the latest Man or Astro-man album is brilliant, kind of insane experimental electro surf from a videogame of the future type music, a great progression from almost everything they've done in the past, which while I highly enjoy, did get a bit repeditive.

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2003 :  01:45:40  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
Come on people

Trashmen!!!!

Although their reissue greatest hits album was very expensive
I had to give it a try
some tracks are brilliant
some are a bit too surfin bird (their hit)

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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6214 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2003 :  01:50:56  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address
why the fuck is blink 182 mentioned as a surf band on surfmusic.com?
and the pixies are nowhere to be found

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massif snake
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
282 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2003 :  03:10:32  Show Profile  Visit massif snake's Homepage  Click to see massif snake's MSN Messenger address
surf music can be good in the right atmosphere (ie: on the beach:lol) but otherwise i find it just slightly pleasant background music. doesn't have enough guitar mayhem to really excite me.

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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1058 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2003 :  09:47:54  Show Profile
Blink 182...........ugh,well to be fair the pixies weren't actually a surf band,they had a few surf songs,but i see your point as blink 182 have had no surf songs?

My bone used to have a little machine,i must have misplaced it
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2003 :  10:00:01  Show Profile
Man Or Astroman? are pretty fucking rockin' for contemporary "surf" music. they're mostly surf music, with a whole sci-fi thing thrown in there too.

they do a cover of Manta Ray too!

also, the Insect Surfers are pretty good, as far as new bands going Surf music.
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gimmedead
- FB Fan -

USA
18 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2003 :  11:33:47  Show Profile  Visit gimmedead's Homepage
man or astroman spoiled asssholes? man that sucks. i'm a huge fan, but i've never met them before.

i think they're by far the greatest surf song writing talent today, with the exception of their new stuff, which i can't really get into.
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1772 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2003 :  07:48:26  Show Profile  Visit PsychicTwin's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by massif snake

surf music doesn't have enough guitar mayhem to really excite me.




dear lord...have you ever listened to any Dick Dale?? he is undoubtedly the master of surf guitar mayhem.

I'm a big fan of surf rock...most good stuff seems to be the older surf rock (i.e. The Lively Ones, Dick Dale of course, Ventures)

Newer stuff that is also good: Man or Astroman?, Impala, Satan's Pilgrims
check out bands on Estrus Records...there are a few good surf rock bands on there

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massif snake
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
282 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2003 :  09:38:36  Show Profile  Visit massif snake's Homepage  Click to see massif snake's MSN Messenger address
ok dude ill check that out


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Wowee_Zowee
- FB Fan -

Belgium
81 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2003 :  10:49:26  Show Profile  Visit Wowee_Zowee's Homepage
Check out Big Ray & The Futuras, Slacktone, and so many more...

I'm playing in a surfband and I'll be on tour through Germany and Italy this winter. So make sure you check us out :). I'll post the dates and places when I know them...

Even if you're Michael or Janet: it's a sad, sad planet.
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blarg007
= Cult of Ray =

USA
493 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2003 :  11:04:07  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by peter radiator

The sound you hear at the beginning of both versions is the sound of someone hitting or kicking a guitar amplifier that utilizes a "spring reverb unit". These old-style reverb units are part of what helped define the booming, echoey tone of "surf guitar". They sound great, but unfortunately, when they're engaged, any strong bump or nudge of the amp will send the inner spring bouncing around and makes all kinds of freaky racket.

One of the best modern-day surf bands would most definitely be San Francisco's The Mermen, who use a lot of Sonic Youth-style feedback noise to stretch their instrumental pieces into epic psychedelic workouts.

Man or Astroman? got a lot of credit for the resurgence of interest in surf-rock, but to my ear, they're shallow poseurs who think much more about their costumes and stage props than the meat behind the songs. This opinion may be colored by the fact that I've dealt with them before, and except for Eric Hubner (whom I have much respect for), they acted like a bunch of spoiled assholes.

Great album art, though.

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

~ Peter Radiator

"Real music is out there and real people are making it." ~ Webb Wilder


i used to have an LP by 'man or astroman' that had a cover of a pixies' song on it ....don't have it anymore ..anyone know what the song was???...

strangehairy 'n fullalice

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blarg007
= Cult of Ray =

USA
493 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2003 :  11:06:23  Show Profile
'..my mantra is allright...ALLRIGHT'
manta ray?

garbled snake dice

Edited by - blarg007 on 10/06/2003 11:06:46
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1772 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2003 :  11:20:33  Show Profile  Visit PsychicTwin's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by massif snake

ok dude ill check that out


have sex with the nuns at my school.



Be sure to...good Dick Dale songs include Surf Taco, Misirlou (not the Pulp fiction version, but another one that is a little longer and has some female backing vocal "ahh's" in there--fucking SCORCHING version, and some other stuff)...his backing band is called the Deltones. btw, Dick Dale is referenced in 'The Man Who was Too Loud' when Frank sings "you know, i saw him open up for the King of the Surf Guitar"....that's Dick Dale's "title", so to speak. A little arrogant, but I guess you can have some arrogance when your guitar skills are uncanny like his.

Impala...don't know whatever happened to that band. Don't even know if they are still together. I have an album of theirs called "Square Jungle" which is quite good, all instrumental (like true Surf Rock should be.) if you can find an mp3 of theirs, check out "Lady In a Cage." That song exemplifies everything that is awesome about surf rock's energy, in my opinion.

Another good surf rock band (though I've only heard one song of theirs) are the Enchanted Tiki Tones. "Sneaky Tiki".....kickass song.

All these songs suggestions might be a good choice of stuff to look up on KaZaa/Soulseek/any other file-sharing shingdig of your choice.

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JamesM
= Cult of Ray =

308 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2003 :  19:09:03  Show Profile
Has anyone ever heard "A Guitar Named Desire" by Big Dipper? One of my favorite surf songs (although Big Dipper was most definitely not a surf band); great stuff.

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