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Golly
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Sweden
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 Posted - 09/24/2003 : 09:45:14
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I was just wondering...How involved was Joey in writing the music for franks lyrics. Did he do any chord progressions and such or just solos, bridges, fills etc? And did Frank come up with some solos aswell?
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Douglas
= Cult of Ray =
Sweden
308 Posts |
Posted - 09/24/2003 : 10:53:53
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| good question. unfortunately the only ones who can answer that are frank and joey... |
Edited by - Douglas on 09/24/2003 10:54:24 |
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misleadtheworld
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1222 Posts |
Posted - 09/24/2003 : 10:55:01
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I've often wondered that actually. on the albums frank is credited for all, unless kim kicked up i guess, gigantic and silver etc....
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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1058 Posts |
Posted - 09/24/2003 : 11:09:33
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Its always been a mystery to me cos on the albums it just says all songs written by black francis except blah...
Surely that must just mean that he writes the lyrics,cos yeah he is amazing,and yeah he was a bit of a creative dictator but im sure he didnt write the drum beat and the bassline and joeys riffs
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DruggedBunny
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
395 Posts |
Posted - 09/25/2003 : 04:03:30
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I think Frank would have done chords + lyrics. I reckon he takes the view (quite reasonably) that the songs can exist (as proven by numerous solo shows) on their own without a band backing them up...
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killmocker
- FB Fan -
Japan
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Posted - 10/01/2003 : 09:35:30
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Originally posted by ShakeyShake
Its always been a mystery to me cos on the albums it just says all songs written by black francis except blah...
Surely that must just mean that he writes the lyrics,cos yeah he is amazing,and yeah he was a bit of a creative dictator but im sure he didnt write the drum beat and the bassline and joeys riffs
My bone used to have a little machine,i must have misplaced it
It wouldn't have been too farfetched for Frank to write
the parts for bass,drums and lead along with his own...
Remember, the guy had background playing piano,drums,and bass along with guitar. I bet he didn't have 100% input, because I'm sure the other members had their own influence somewhat, but maybe at least 90.
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
1750 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2003 : 11:52:00
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i think joey wrote his parts. they're too...natural to him for frank to write 'em. know what i mean?
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WolfManMikeLonely
= Cult of Ray =
USA
936 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2003 : 11:54:20
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Yeah I'd say that what it means when it says all songs by Black Francis is he came in with the skeleton of the songs, the chords, words and structure and then they went to town with it. Although I'm sure he'd have ideas for certain leads, etc.
"Hey fuck you if you don't like it."
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ivandivel
= Cult of Ray =
394 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2003 : 12:44:10
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| when i saw frank black in san fransisco 1993,i think he introduced joey as "the defining sound of the pixies" (or did i hear that on a bootleg?). Anyway, in an interview he said that some of the songs were "jammed" out in rehearsals with the band - based on his ideas. Can't remember which Trompe le Monde song he refered to when he said that it was based on an idea he and joey had been messing around with since they went to university. |
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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1058 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2003 : 15:38:04
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Nooo surely he couldn't have put in 90%,wouldn't kim have left a lot sooner if it was that high?
My bone used to have a little machine,i must have misplaced it |
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DruggedBunny
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
395 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2003 : 05:49:38
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| Frank said they were 'totally' a band -- they jammed the basic chords he presented; he didn't write all the parts. |
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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2638 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2003 : 08:43:15
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| There's a 'demo' version of Broken Face and I'm Amazed about, I downloaded them ages ago. I'm not sure but are they actually proper demos from before the songs were recorded or are they just random acoustic versions? My point is on those so called 'demos' Frank hums the bass line and either plays the guitar riff himself or sings the solo... If they are original demos that Frank did before the rest of the band rehearsed then it would seem he did most of the songs... |
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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1220 Posts |
Posted - 10/02/2003 : 13:56:35
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| Those are the little tapes Frank did with the 4AD dude, y'can hear Frank talk to him- "I'm gonna sing the bassplayer's part".. |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
2463 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2003 : 10:17:08
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I think that U-mass, the riff at lest, had been kicking around since the college days.
'Took his plane to Columbia/So I could sell at my school" |
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massif snake
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
282 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2003 : 03:08:54
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joey redefined how to play a guitar in my opinion.
have sex with the nuns at my school. |
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