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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =

914 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2002 :  12:47:38  Show Profile
does he play this at alot of shows?
how about the current tour to anyone who has been at a show so far? i she playin this one????

floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2002 :  15:46:43  Show Profile
i've yet to hear it, sadly, and i've been to a shite-load of shows this year. a shite-load i tell you..

i've yelled for it too, but it doesn't seem they've been rehearsing it..
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Spartacus
- FB Fan -

Australia
84 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2002 :  17:25:11  Show Profile
Along with announcement, Pan-am is one of my favourite B-sides-how was this song not considered good enough for an album???
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sloe joe
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United Kingdom
70 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2002 :  18:00:39  Show Profile  Visit sloe joe's Homepage
It *was* on an album - an unreleased album called 'Sunday Sunny Mill Valley Groove Day'. Try and find a copy!

joe
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2002 :  20:29:53  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage
Does Frank ever play B Sides???? Ive never heard him play any at the gigs Ive been to, except Remake / Remodel but thats a cover version and not a b-side I think (as he mentionned Roxy Music after he had finished the song)..
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Don Eduardo
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
403 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2002 :  21:11:52  Show Profile  Click to see Don Eduardo's MSN Messenger address
he plays oddballs and jumping beans quite often, or he did in 2001
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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =

914 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2002 :  21:41:21  Show Profile
yeah panam highway is so good , i'm sure it'll end up on a future studio cd..
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2002 :  00:44:28  Show Profile
pan am rules..

b-sidewise, he usually throws some in there..

for some reason, there are certain gigs (around here) that he always plays a lot of b-sides at.. when he plays McCabes Guitar Shop (the best place to see him) he always plays tons of b-sides..
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1439 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2002 :  02:53:22  Show Profile
i think the outro to pan am is sublime. cool lyrics too - it would be criminal not to redo it.

stone to the bone
:o)
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Spartacus
- FB Fan -

Australia
84 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2002 :  05:54:42  Show Profile
Sloe Joe, I was talking about official albums.
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matto
= Cult of Ray =

USA
954 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2002 :  12:48:44  Show Profile  Visit matto's Homepage
maybe it's too hard to play

spem in alium
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sloe joe
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United Kingdom
70 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2002 :  16:53:06  Show Profile  Visit sloe joe's Homepage
yeah i know spartacus - i just get the feeling that frank has probably decided to leave that album in the past, especially as he's re-recorded what he considers the best songs from it, so any new version is... unlikely.

not that i wouldn't drop to the floor and pray if he played it live :)

joe
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holzgrafe
- FB Fan -

USA
75 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2002 :  17:14:53  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by sloe joe

i just get the feeling that frank has probably decided to leave that album in the past, especially as he's re-recorded what he considers the best songs from it, so any new version is... unlikely.



Not sure I understand this. Pan American Highway also appears as a b-side on the Cooking Vinyl Robert Onion single, I think from the same SSMVGD sessions. Though he elected to omit it from DITS, that is pretty high profile placement. My sense is that he doesn't feel the need to to re-do it, and that he would view it as one of the best songs from the SSMVGD sessions. As for not playing it, he does't play St. Francis either, and they seem similar in mode, at least to me. But, as I said, I may misunderstanding Joe here. - Mel
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floop
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Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2002 :  18:09:51  Show Profile
Mel pretty much said what i was going to say..

as for not re-doing songs, i wouldn't ever put it past Frank to include something from the past that hasn't officially had a release. it seems to be his modus operandi (to sound pretentious) that he'll play around with songs for a long time sometimes, but eventually they'll find their place..

look at Dog In The Sand.. or, for instance, Subbacultacha was one of the first songs he ever wrote.. circa Come On Pilgrim.. what are some of the others?? obviously Modern Age and His Kingly Cave have been around for a while.

aren't there are few songs on TOTY that were written during the Trompe days?

i'm sure there are plenty that we don't even know about.

i guess with Pan Am Highway, like Mel said, he won't throw it on an offical album because it's technically a b-side.. but i wish he would. or at least play it

Edited by - floop on 10/22/2002 18:45:58
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1615 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2002 :  18:17:37  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address
We can always hope for an Oddballs 2. There is already lots of songs to add to it.

"It's the Nexus of the Crisis"
BÖCswu
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =

USA
891 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2002 :  07:59:04  Show Profile
Old songs Frank has resurrected at one point that I know of...

Down to the Well, Subbaculture, Here Comes Your Man (obvious ones)
Brackish Boy..Trompe sessions, ended up on FB
Men in Black..Teenager era..ended up on Cult
Dog in the Sand..Doolittle era..ended up on Dog
Fields of Marigold..Teenager era..ended up on DW
I Will Run, 21 Reasons, and Kingly Cave..Dog/SSMGD era..ended up on BLD, DW
I know The Swimmer was a pretty old song..dont know when it first surfaced though
of course Velvety..
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sloe joe
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
70 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2002 :  08:10:14  Show Profile  Visit sloe joe's Homepage
sorry if i confused anyone. i must learn not to post when drunk :)

joe
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Bartholomew
= Cult of Ray =

USA
344 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2002 :  14:16:05  Show Profile
love Pan Am. Best song on SSMGVD hands down.
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
9168 Posts

Posted - 10/26/2002 :  05:26:23  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Old songs Frank has resurrected at one point that I know of...

Down to the Well, Subbaculture, Here Comes Your Man (obvious ones)


Also "Dig For Fire." I recall reading somewhere that this was one of the first songs the Pixies rehearsed together.

Nathan
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