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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =

USA
891 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2002 :  09:30:09  Show Profile
What are some songs you absolutely love but don't hear talked of often/hear played live/or that your fellow Frank Black friends don't seem to get too excited about?

I'd have to say:

Dog in the Sand. I love the guitar, very minimalist, and the whole thing is hypnotic, great lyrics too.

Places Named After Numbers: This sounds like a great lost new wave track, again, as with Dog in the Sand, I think it's really atmospheric and pretty (beautiful??)

Finally, I'd say Two Reelers. The dynamic where it switches from a punk song to that amazing chorus is just incredible, and I love how Frank sings "and mr. white..." This is the first song to 'grab' me off of Teenager, even before Headache, and subsequently lead to my slow falling in love with the whole album.

ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2002 :  10:18:39  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage
I have to say my namesake "I Heard Ramona Sing" such a good song, and I barely ever hear it mentioned.
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mattkendall
- FB Fan -

USA
52 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2002 :  10:21:59  Show Profile  Visit mattkendall's Homepage
Yeah, I can agree with "Dog in the Sand" and "I Heard Ramona Sing". I'm one to hit the "skip" button often on most any cds and while it wouldn't occur to me to put either on a mix tape, I never skip them either.

I'm a pretty big "I Need Peace" guy, myself.

I never have seen FB live, heard live recordings, or personally know other FB fanatics, so I have to assume "I Need Peace" isn't highly regarded.

"And when you get blue and you've lost all your dreams, there's nothin' like a campfire and a can full of beans."
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matto
= Cult of Ray =

USA
954 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2002 :  11:11:44  Show Profile  Visit matto's Homepage
Two Spaces.
Super beginning! Awesome trebley rythm guitaring! Mint surf organ! Space!
This has been my favorite since it came out. The live version on "Black Sessions" (opening the set) gives the author gooseflesh. Not ear candy; ear baguette and brie!

spem in alium
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mdisanto
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1140 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2002 :  13:07:46  Show Profile  Visit mdisanto's Homepage
yah two spaces is defintily a fave

-miked
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -

United Kingdom
1733 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2002 :  14:23:23  Show Profile
Shazeb Andleeb. My favourite on Cult of Ray - play it live again Frank
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Don Eduardo
= Cult of Ray =

Australia
403 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2002 :  16:17:16  Show Profile  Click to see Don Eduardo's MSN Messenger address
Agree on Two Reelers, that was my fave off teenager for a long time, Adda Lee is also very under-rated i reckon, and Suffering is definitely my favourite off FB & TC's
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steveplymouthuk
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
639 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2002 :  17:28:03  Show Profile  Visit steveplymouthuk's Homepage
I have to stick in a mention for speedie marie. Superb song. Well done mr blackus.
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2002 :  02:32:23  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage
Robert Onion, the slow start, gathering pace and the chorus with the Pixies style guitaring makes it one of my favourite FB songs. Don't Ya Rile em is also an all time favourite that people don't seem to mention.

I agree with Two Spaces, the first song off of the Black Sessions.... this was probably the song (along with Men In Black) that really got me into Frank Black.
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gary13th
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
632 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2002 :  02:36:09  Show Profile  Visit gary13th's Homepage  Click to see gary13th's MSN Messenger address
Theres a few, but mainly Calistan (which is just a great,classic Frank song!)

~you will get used to me, welcome to your new joy
Heloise by FB&TC
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Bartholomew
= Cult of Ray =

USA
344 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2002 :  08:44:23  Show Profile
One word:
Freedom Rock

Even better than the old infomercial.

Man that song would sound good live--so rockin'.
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1758 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2002 :  11:21:32  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage
definitely "adda lee". that song is just so good, yet so short! i have to play it twice most of the time.

-dan
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OliverK
- FB Fan -

43 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2002 :  12:14:55  Show Profile
"Can I Get A Witness"

It sounds like the material Frank is turning out these days, but the song is a Cult of Ray bonus track. It's simple and I like it. Was it ever played on stage?
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spy303
- FB Fan -

USA
28 Posts

Posted - 10/19/2002 :  18:39:29  Show Profile
Dog in the sand is my favorite off the only catholics album I've heard so far.The swimmer is incredible though.

Teenager? tough but Big Red is da bomb dog!!!
no im saying?

dirty tacos are cheap in Texas
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langdonboom
= Cult of Ray =

USA
260 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2002 :  07:32:25  Show Profile  Click to see langdonboom's MSN Messenger address
The CULT OF RAY!

One of the best pre-Robert Onion rocking songs in the FB catalog! If I may refer to his body of work as a catalog. Anyway, I've never seen this song, as I missed seeing Frank on the Cult of Ray tour, so I'm dying to. Its my one favorite song on that album and I never see it.

Alienation confers freedom. Obscurity will keep you pure. Pray that you won’t be discovered young, so that you won’t be tempted to sell out early, or won’t be seduced by celebrity.

--THE PATH OF THE ARTIST
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1758 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2002 :  12:33:34  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage
i got one - creature crawling. i love that song.

-dan
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sloe joe
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
70 Posts

Posted - 10/20/2002 :  12:40:10  Show Profile  Visit sloe joe's Homepage
I've got a feeling lots of people don't like 'Whispering Weeds', but in the right mood I find it fantastic. The percussion is worth the price of the CD alone!
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d3niz3n
- FB Fan -

Canada
75 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2002 :  14:32:10  Show Profile
whispering weeds is a great tune. what i'd love to hear is living on soul.
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Spartacus
- FB Fan -

Australia
84 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2002 :  17:29:43  Show Profile
I have to say calistan as it is my fave Frank track...but also from Teenager 'Ole Mulholland'...I loved this song the first time I heard it and although it has gone down the pecking order a little, I still think it is a great song, especially the beginning. Agree with Don Eduardo too, Suffering is my fave from the self-titled Catholics album.
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Leah
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
314 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2002 :  07:49:13  Show Profile
Pie in the Sky...coz its one of those that weeks after I bought the albumn I was humming and could not figure out how it got stuck in my head & I'm still not sure what exactly it is, but its still a fave tune and gets on most comp. MD'S...
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sloe joe
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
70 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2002 :  16:56:44  Show Profile  Visit sloe joe's Homepage
pie in the sky... i couldn't imagine any other song finished TOTY.. its just perfect.

"it takes photon power, and eight minuyes of an hour" - genius

joe
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =

Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
464 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2002 :  17:50:02  Show Profile  Visit johndietzel's Homepage
I like the epic feel of "Announcement." And PanAm highway is like the folk version of an epic.

"Plain n' simp--the system's a pimp, but I refuse to be a ho."
Chuck D
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Thomas
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1615 Posts

Posted - 10/22/2002 :  18:09:22  Show Profile  Click to see Thomas's MSN Messenger address
YOU'RE ALL WRONG!


All of his songs are underrated. Every single last one of them.

Name one song you've heard on mainstream radio. Was the songs played at a reasonable time of day and on a regualar rotation.
Name one video they play on M2TVH1MuchMusic on any regular rotation.
Name one person you physically know that likes and buys his music (you telling them who he is and how great his music is doesn't count).

After all that I'll go with the rockin'

Smoke Up from Pistolero

"It's the Nexus of the Crisis"
BÖCswu
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =

USA
891 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2002 :  08:05:20  Show Profile
I have at least 7 or 8 friends who own a Frank Black cd, and at least 3 of them own about 10 or so (including Pixies)...i guess i did tell them how cool he was, but if someone goes out and buys all his albums, then its not like they're humoring me, so i think they count. Afterall...word of mouth is probably about 90% of how music that doesn't get played on the radio spreads...
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KingOfSiam
- FB LinkMaster -

USA
460 Posts

Posted - 10/23/2002 :  09:43:47  Show Profile
I Need more Frank Black shows!! Already ahve about 50 or so transferred from DAT to CD-R. Have hundreds more. I am looking for a show that has "Hostess With The Mostess" anyone ever seen one?

If anyone wants to work out a trade email me and I'll send a list.
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patrickveil
- FB Fan -

USA
4 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2002 :  04:31:33  Show Profile  Visit patrickveil's Homepage
Every song is underrated. In an era where we have such godawful musical crap spewed upon us by an out-of-touch music industry, EVERY FRNAK BLACK SONG IS UNDERRATED!
However, being forced into choosing, I'd have to go with "Humboldt County Massacre." This is an ultra catchy tune that borders on Punk Rock, and if you sit back and listen to the lyrics, it has the potential to make you feel a bit queasy. (And rightfully so, as it is about the 1856 slaughter of an entire native american tribe at the hands of someodd six goldseeking thugs armed with axes. Powerful somgwriting.
Also, if "His Kingly Cave" doesn't rock the top of the charts from now until next February, then I may as well add that to the list.

Patrick V.
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Kingnickmalt
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
23 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2002 :  06:31:57  Show Profile
i need peace
i gotta move
solid gold

from the most underrated album

What is a signature????
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rattle
- FB Fan -

USA
1 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2002 :  13:24:15  Show Profile  Visit rattle's Homepage
Humboldt County Massacre

Something about that tune grabs me. Maybe its my affinity for Frank's songs that detail massive distruction.. It needs to be fleshed out with another verse or something and to find its way onto the next album.


-nick
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alstar
- FB Fan -

Australia
23 Posts

Posted - 10/25/2002 :  07:17:35  Show Profile
underrated song from frank black self titled - i heard ramona sing, teenager of the year - speedy marie, cult of ray - cult of ray, frank black and the catholics - solid gold, pistolero - and so bay, dog in the sand - the swimmer, black letter days and devils workshop, too early to call.
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doginthesand
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
14 Posts

Posted - 10/26/2002 :  12:23:53  Show Profile
underated from fb- adda lee
teenager- bad wicked world
pistolero- i switched you (please play v.loud)
dog- bullet
black letter - 1826 (goes from edgy beefheart to hoonky tonk stones)
devils- his kingly cave
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -

United Kingdom
1733 Posts

Posted - 10/26/2002 :  13:53:17  Show Profile
I agree about the Beefheart influence in 1826 - maybe I'm Gonna Booglarize ya Baby?
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edward897
- FB Fan -

80 Posts

Posted - 10/26/2002 :  20:24:11  Show Profile
I never liked Fu Manchu until I heard it live. Now I love that song.

Ed
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freedom rocker
- FB Fan -

USA
88 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2002 :  21:04:19  Show Profile  Visit freedom rocker's Homepage
"I,ve seen your picture"

I,ve always been a fan of how Frank jars his chords like a broken record, like he does at the end of the song.
Oh, and if ya'll didn't know, "two reelers" is about the three stooges. I just figured that out myself. Woop-dee-doo.
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BrendanT
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
907 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2002 :  09:56:32  Show Profile
Has to be Announcement. Fantastic song that never had a chance to survive!

Strummer-man
I had me a vision!
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1439 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2002 :  11:13:45  Show Profile
ill have to go with freedom rocker - the first time i heard ive seen your picture it blew me away. EDF (along with homer simpson of course!) is my hero.
cheers


i wash maself with a raaaag on a stick.
huhhhhhhhhhh!
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Brackish Heart
- FB Fan -

Australia
176 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2002 :  15:28:56  Show Profile  Visit Brackish Heart's Homepage  Click to see Brackish Heart's MSN Messenger address
I Don't Want To Hurt You (Every Single Time)
This song always seems to cop heaps of criticism for being too cheesy but I find the sentiment in this song quite amusing.
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