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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~

Ireland
1750 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2003 :  05:27:25  Show Profile
oh yeah, oil isn't any good if it is stored in a plastic bottle. best are the ones in green or brown bottles(don't ask me why) and they really should be rifrigerated from being processed til they are comsumed.

bored of the little comments. i guess i'll just have an actual signature. much shorter.
-Jessie
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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =

France
2010 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2003 :  14:26:34  Show Profile  Visit The Holiday Son's Homepage
wheat is murder.

I understand you might not want to eat meat because you don't like the taste of it but if you don't because that's animals, what about vegetables?
They're living beings as well!!

That said, I've got nothing against vegans.
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =

USA
925 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2003 :  15:48:44  Show Profile  Visit Atheist4Catholics's Homepage
Yeah, broccoli has a central nervous system which means it can probably feel pain. I'd eat myself, but I'm not flexible enough.

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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2003 :  22:10:39  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage
Ah yes, thanks you Jessie!

Try to get your oil in opaque containers, preferably made of glass. Light destroys the good stuff in oil, so a dark container will keep it better.

If you're getting cold-pressed oils, the plastic issue isn't as bad as it could be, since generally it's the heating of plastic that releases the 'hormones' (something like xeno-estrogen?)

This plant thing is really tired.. What do you think the animals meat comes from eats?

Even if you consider plants as sentient, sensitive creatures, you're still better off eating them directly than from an animal that ate many, many times more.

And the last word on the subject is that there is a surprising amount of plant food that doesn't require any killing - mostly fruit, etc.. Since it's not the plant itself.
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2003 :  16:12:15  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by The Holiday Son

wheat is murder.

I understand you might not want to eat meat because you don't like the taste of it but if you don't because that's animals, what about vegetables?
They're living beings as well!!

That said, I've got nothing against vegans.



Are you Neil Pye from "The Young Ones"?
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~

Ireland
1750 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2003 :  17:00:23  Show Profile
fruitareans(sp?) are people who think 'killing veg and fruit is murder, and they will only eat stuff that has ie. fallin to the ground(what do the do for potatoes?).

bored of the little comments. i guess i'll just have an actual signature. much shorter.
-Jessie
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
5454 Posts

Posted - 07/20/2003 :  21:49:20  Show Profile
I do know someone who use to (perhaps still does) only eat meat that was found, usually roadkill.

Story has it that he lived near some powerlines in Britain that often supplied him with zapped geese.
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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <

3648 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2003 :  00:00:50  Show Profile
I'm all for veganism honestly. I tried it for awhile, but I can't do it 'cause I love meat and every other food group.

FLOOP, I can make tofu for you that would make you cream.

I love tofu, I love beef, pork, poulty, fish, shellfish, bread... if I am hungry, I'll fuckin' eat it.


I do agree cow's milk is yucky, I'd rather soy.


I wish everyone was vegan. The more vegans the better, but I'm not one.

I can't believe I never saw this topic. I never got that 9ass( shit either...

uh, nevermind, bye

ain't it
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2003 :  09:26:13  Show Profile
Thanks Dave,
this is exactly the shit I was curious about, keep it coming.
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1439 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2003 :  10:45:06  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Little Black Francis

I do agree cow's milk is yucky, I'd rather soy.


i drink soy - its much better for you; albeit maybe a bit more expensive. also - i dont like the idea that milk has to be 'processed' to make it drinkable (although i do know people who live on farms here who drink milk straight from the cow - yikes!). anybody care to offer an opinion on this - i have heard somebody mention before about phyto-oestrogens being detected in soy milk... it doesnt bother me at all, due to reported minute quantities. anybody any thoughts on GM soy products?


Is your work done? Are all pigs fed, watered and ready to fly?....
- David Brent
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2003 :  12:03:00  Show Profile
I don't drink any milk products as I am highly lactose intolerant, what pisses me off is when they add lactose into things. At my first day at this job I was running late so I drank a Carnation Instant breakfast, (with soy milk) (are those even good for you?) and they add lactose to it. Try explaining that to your new boss and co-workers (if anyone is lactose intolerant, they'll know what I mean.)

Also, I wanted to ask about hemp seed oil (I'm all about the hemp). I bought some and its pretty expensive, could I have just bought flax instead, would it be just as good?
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1439 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2003 :  12:15:36  Show Profile
dont know - i have never smoked flax

Is your work done? Are all pigs fed, watered and ready to fly?....
- David Brent
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2003 :  12:20:36  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage
Hey Barry - the phyto-estro in soy is actually really good, and helps to even out levels in post-menopausal women. It's not like the stuff you get from plastic, which just mimics estrogen.

GM anything is bad. It's such an insanely huge structure to work with, we have no idea what we're doing really, it's generally hit'n'miss.

Weird about the lactose.. I'd sooner make a nice fruit smoothie..nums..

I'm not sure which is better (hemp/flax oil), but it's relatively marginal from what i understand. I find the pro-hemp folks kinda militant about it, so i'm suspicious.
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2003 :  12:21:57  Show Profile
I'm not smoking it, I'm eating it. You know instead of butter or even canola, sunflower etc.

But once when I was about 14 I tried smoking catnip, doesn't work.
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1439 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2003 :  12:27:28  Show Profile
try banana skins yet? hehe. bad idea. thanks for the info dave. as for GM crops etc - im on the fence.

Is your work done? Are all pigs fed, watered and ready to fly?....
- David Brent
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2003 :  12:29:10  Show Profile
Banana skins?
All sorts of different tea though, its a no-go.

Edited by - Carolynanna on 07/21/2003 13:01:58
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2003 :  14:52:30  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
While I personally am with Bazza on the GM fence, I wouldn't go so far as to say that GM-anything is bad. We don't know what we're doing very well at the moment, true, but we certainly won't learn anything by stopping altogether. Does more work need to be done prior to consumption? Probably. But if these GM products are able to provide more food from a per unit area basis, who are we to deny the contribution that such advances might make to helping deal with world hunger? Imagine - ultra-huge, dual use banana skins. Now we're talking.
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =

Canada
3581 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2003 :  15:30:07  Show Profile
Dual use, hmm.... I don't wanna know what else you use bananas for Dean....
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2003 :  15:44:30  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
You'll note I said the SKINS. <ahem>
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =

Canada
3581 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2003 :  15:47:57  Show Profile
Hey, I can think of some freaky crap to do with the skins. I'm just wondering what freaky crap you were thinking of.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2003 :  15:53:48  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
I wouldn't want to bring lewdness to yet a third thread on FB.Net. 18+, 21+, and now 32+. It's so awful that I'm too young to even tell you about it. :)
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <

South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2003 :  16:01:44  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by speedy_m

Hey, I can think of some freaky crap to do with the skins.


Cartoon-inspired hijinks, no doubt.
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =

Canada
3581 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2003 :  20:31:50  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by BLT

quote:
Originally posted by speedy_m

Hey, I can think of some freaky crap to do with the skins.


Cartoon-inspired hijinks, no doubt.



Imagine the fun you could have if making some fall was a simple as laying out a banana peel. Bananas would be banned in schools! There would be restrictions on minors buying them! Kids would stand outside produce stands trying to get adults to "pull" for them! Havoc would reign.
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 07/21/2003 :  23:53:16  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage
GM foods have done *nothing* to help *anyone* but the corporations. While they're spending billions on R&D, people are starving who would do absolutely fine if they had 'regular' seeds.

And let's take a look at this 'golden rice' that Monsanto or whoever came up with.. It's GE's to contain beta-carotene or something...but in order to get your daily RDA of this vitamin from the rice, you'd need to eat like 50 cups of it.

And this is their greatest accomplishment.

All their 'roundup' crops require even *more* pesticide than conventional crops.

It's crap. If they wanna toy with this shit in highly-contained labs, fine, but they're so damn eager to get it on the market we're left without any options..

They've proven many times over they're not trustworth, and GE food is NOT worth the trouble required.

Organic farming, on the other hand, is growing in leaps and bounds, and is becoming quite efficient, producing close to as much produce as conventional crops in many area's.

And with considerably less resource use.

Of course, no corp's gonna profit from a lack of pesticide use...
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Devils Islander
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
101 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2003 :  02:26:22  Show Profile
"All of God's creatures have the will to survive, did you know about that."

"What goes around it comes around. One fine day, look around. There will be nothing but you."

(Frank Black - The Creature Crawling)

...where the Ballyhoos and the Tritons are.
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =

Canada
3581 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2003 :  07:46:19  Show Profile
Great quote DI, I never thought of that in that way... the line "what goes around...." could be applied to many situations, like a person who doesn't fair well in relationships and will be left alone, or on a grander scale, to corporations who gouge away at the local economy, destroying the little guy, which is ultimately self defeating. If everyone is gone, and there's nothing but you, who will have money to buy from you?
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2003 :  08:25:35  Show Profile
Dave,
I like to buy organic but I find it so damn expensive. I have found that Superstore's Presidents Choice has an organic line and it fairly cheap. Do you have any idea why or if its good? You're Canadian you have Superstore's in Vancouver right? btw, that's actually where I was born
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =

Canada
3581 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2003 :  08:27:14  Show Profile
btw he lives in Victoria. You've just offended him with your talk of that other city in BC.
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2003 :  08:29:45  Show Profile
oopsy daisy, sorry.
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =

Canada
3581 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2003 :  08:32:01  Show Profile
I would expect this sort of faux pas from a pig dog American, but from a fellow Canuck? I'm ashamed Carolyn. Ashamed.
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2003 :  08:33:31  Show Profile
I hang my head.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2003 :  08:35:12  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
You should also be ashamed that he's surpassed your post-count. That's what you get for going on vacation, I guess. :)
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2003 :  08:41:23  Show Profile
It was only 1 week, that's it watch out speedy, I'm gonna post like a madwoman today!
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =

Canada
3581 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2003 :  08:44:02  Show Profile
You always post like you're a madwoman. Now just post more.
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
6556 Posts

Posted - 07/22/2003 :  08:46:38  Show Profile
Well you've got more posts than me freaky friday.

I don't mind you coming here, wasting all my time!
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