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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1772 Posts |
 Posted - 06/26/2003 : 07:00:55
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Originally posted by vilainde
Still haven't downloaded the new album... Am I the only one?
You're not alone. I personally don't want a 'sneak peek' at the album...I'm getting enough of that just reading the forum. I'm going to relish the moment when I actually have the real album, and having never heard it before (except live), throwing it on for that unrepeatable first listen. |
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1834 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2003 : 08:06:01
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| I too won't be downloading it, though I did find a copy of the three track promo that came out a couple weeks ago. Couldn't resist. Had already heard Nadine and Massif Centrale so only Favorite Kiss was new to me. Love it. |
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mereubu
= FB QuizMistress =
USA
2677 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2003 : 09:19:54
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| My Favorite Kiss is officially My Favorite Song. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2003 : 10:35:43
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| Of all time or of Show Me Your Tears? |
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
1439 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2003 : 10:39:14
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coastline is winning it for me at the moment.
If you can keep your head when all around you have lost theirs, then you probably haven't understood the seriousness of the situation. - David Brent |
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
3581 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2003 : 12:55:52
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| I love the entire record. Love it. Massif Centrale. Wow. I cannot get enough of this song. Really. It sounds like something from Teenager. Really though, the whole thing is beautiful. I'm listening to it right now in fact. Lately I've been drinking at the new house of the pope... |
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Mike Rutherford
- FB Fan -
USA
171 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2003 : 14:50:47
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Originally posted by speedy_m
I love the entire record. Love it. Massif Centrale. Wow. I cannot get enough of this song. Really. It sounds like something from Teenager. Really though, the whole thing is beautiful. I'm listening to it right now in fact. Lately I've been drinking at the new house of the pope...
I totally agree with you about Massif Centrale sounding like a TOTY song....that's exactly what I thought the first time I heard it.... |
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the swimmer
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1602 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2003 : 11:41:34
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A few more listens and PLENTY of sober listens, lest ye think I am high all the time (sometimes I wish but I'd never get ANYTHING done, except a few pizzas) and I can SAFELY SAY,
This is perhaps theee best Frank Black Album.
This is the most catchiest, coolest, best songs.
Thank ya lord, thank ya jesus I live in this time.
"Winter blows through my coat"
the what four http://www.mp3.com/phelan |
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frankblackphx
= Cult of Ray =
USA
287 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2003 : 14:37:19
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Thanks for all of the great reviews. I am trying my best to hold off until the album comes out to actually hear it. On the production side of things where does SMYT fall? Is it a pretty good production? How does it compare production wise to DITS, BLD & DW?
Thanks,
Dan
I got me so down I got me a headache. |
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Johnny Horton
- FB Fan -
USA
14 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2003 : 20:14:30
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[quote]Originally posted by the swimmer
This is perhaps theee best Frank Black Album.
I agree. And I've got a thousand bucks that says by Xmas
everyone else here will agree too; SMYT is a qualitative leap.
Whoever riffed on the bus ride scene from 'midnight cowboy' was dead
on. There's a lot of earnest seventies kitsch here--if you don't hear Morricone in the arrangements, you need to be checked for
monkey pox. It's nice to hear the female voice in Manitoba, something
I want to hear in FB&C from time to time and really nicely done here. Overall I'd say the production is really good and the record has a great sound. Not in terms of style but success, it's up there with TOTY production-wise. A truly beautiful perfect gem of a record.
The mastery apparent here is startling, really. You thought they were
tight on DITS? There is a beautiful undiscovered country awaiting your arrival pilgrim.
PS I'm tired of wading through threads supposedly about SMYT only to find petty moralizing. If you download or not, good for you! If I want to read that garbage, I'll go to the topic called 'download or not'. |
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Pioneer
- FB Fan -
213 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2003 : 20:51:50
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| Wait, I actually didn't like the TOTY production, but liked the DITS production. For the unhip, what is Morricone? |
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Johnny Horton
- FB Fan -
USA
14 Posts |
Posted - 07/04/2003 : 22:44:38
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Originally posted by Pioneer
Wait, I actually didn't like the TOTY production, but liked the DITS production. For the unhip, what is Morricone?
It's not the same style of production as TOTY which, btw, I happen to think is great. Not always, but it works for that album. I mean the production is much richer than on BLD for example. It's got a fat bottom, too. This is an aged and mature music.
Was I being a hip fascist? Sorry about that. Ennio Morricone is the guy who composed all the spaghetti western soundtrax (good the bad the ugly, etc.) and lots of others to boot. I keep hearing the gorgeous soundtrack to 'once upon a time in the west' with charles bronson's baleful harmonica on this album. A fantastic movie featuring henry fonda as a truly wicked man. |
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Pioneer
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 07/04/2003 : 22:53:18
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| OK, Johnny, you were being a bit too hip for me, but I can see where you're coming from. Spaghetti western! My chef, Mr. Boyardee, inventor of all Italian food and the new Twistaroni, will get a kick out of that. Fat bottom is good, strictly speaking, even if I don't dig the TOTY production, per se. Right on. |
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the swimmer
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1602 Posts |
Posted - 07/05/2003 : 01:48:14
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Originally posted by Johnny Horton
There is a beautiful undiscovered country awaiting your arrival pilgrim.
Johnny fucking horton, you are right on my man.
Got a great story to tall in another topic. |
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Johnny Horton
- FB Fan -
USA
14 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2003 : 22:07:21
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Originally posted by the swimmer
A few more listens and (snip)I can SAFELY SAY,
This is perhaps theee best Frank Black Album.
This is the most catchiest, coolest, best songs.
All I gotta know is, when does the US tour start and how many cities can I drive to.
Any more thoughts on 'Everything is New'? Is that Jesse, as in Elvis's stillborn twin, Jesse? |
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KingOfSiam
- FB LinkMaster -
USA
460 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2003 : 11:58:53
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In 7 more days I'll be in......Baltimore.
In 2 more weeks I'll be in.....Dallas/Fort Worth......
Why can't I get this song out of my head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
1439 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2003 : 12:05:21
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i know how you feel fella. its my favourite at the moment - and probably the best song he has written since StFrancis (IMHO)
cheers
You have to be 100% behind someone, before you can stab them in the back - David Brent |
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the swimmer
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1602 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2003 : 18:15:54
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Originally posted by KingOfSiam
In 7 more days I'll be in......Baltimore.
In 2 more weeks I'll be in.....Dallas/Fort Worth......
Why can't I get this song out of my head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because it's awesome. And because of that little guitar lick right after it.
GOD I LOVE THIS ALBUM. |
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Stuart
- The Clopser -
China
2291 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2003 : 00:45:18
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Can anyone tell me how long this album is in terms of minutes???
War....... Its not fantastic |
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
1439 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2003 : 02:29:33
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i think its 42 minutes.
You have to be 100% behind someone, before you can stab them in the back - David Brent |
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magpie
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 07/14/2003 : 09:21:30
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As a fan of both Frank Black and good use of orchestration in pop/rock music, I was hoping someone would give some sort of detailed review here of Van Dyke Park's orchestral arrangements on SMYT. Which songs contain orchestration? Is it subtle orchestration? Bombastic orchestration? Some details, please.
No moral dilemma prevents me from downloading SMYT and listening for myself; just a butt-slow dial-up modem. |
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Steak n Sabre
* Dog in the Sand *
Uzbekistan
1013 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2003 : 12:22:46
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I think everybody's going to like this disc. After a few spins, " This 'ol Heartache" really stands out, as well as "Jaina Blues" and "Massif Centrale".
" You can hypnotise me later..." |
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the swimmer
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1602 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2003 : 14:07:51
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Originally posted by magpie
As a fan of both Frank Black and good use of orchestration in pop/rock music, I was hoping someone would give some sort of detailed review here of Van Dyke Park's orchestral arrangements on SMYT. Which songs contain orchestration? Is it subtle orchestration? Bombastic orchestration? Some details, please.
No moral dilemma prevents me from downloading SMYT and listening for myself; just a butt-slow dial-up modem.
There is no "orchestration" in the strict sense of the word, as in a symphony a la beach boys sounding or what have you. It was probably more an arrangement type of thing between the two men.
The song structure, placement of sections was probably what was collaborated upon.
I don't know for sure of course.
Anyway, it's the fucking bee's knees. |
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *
Ireland
1439 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2003 : 14:25:12
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Originally posted by the swimmer
Anyway, it's the fucking bee's knees.
agreed. 110%
You have to be 100% behind someone, before you can stab them in the back - David Brent |
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frankblackphx
= Cult of Ray =
USA
287 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2003 : 14:40:04
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Johnny Horton,
It's not Jessie on Everything is New, Frank actually sings Chesney.
Don't know who he is referencing though.
Dan
I got me so down I got me a headache. |
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echo park
- FB Fan -
Saint Barthelemy
128 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2003 : 02:14:55
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Originally posted by Johnny Horton
It's nice to hear the female voice in Manitoba, something
I want to hear in FB&C from time to time and really nicely done here.
Yes!! That's my girl!!! Ok, and a couple others were there, too. She's sleeping right now, but I'll show her your post tomorrow.
Be sure to tell Frank next time you see him! We would love to do some moreof that stuff!! |
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Johnny Horton
- FB Fan -
USA
14 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2003 : 09:26:26
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Originally posted by magpie
orchestral arrangements on SMYT. Which songs contain orchestration? Is it subtle orchestration? Bombastic orchestration? Some details, please.
Well, I've already mentioned a 'Morricone' feel to a lot of the songs, and not just in the 'Western' sound that FB has been doing since the Pix. It's more the song structure--you can also hear it in Morricone's non-western film work--and that may be due to VDP. As far as obvious orchestration, certainly Manitoba has that. I think Swimmer said 'Burt Bacharach' and that's apt. It's not string heavy (thank God--way too cliche), but as I said in another post, kinda like 70's kitsch in such a good way. The trumpet at the beginning reminds of some song that's on the tip of my tongue. Like a lot of the music I heard on the radio as a child in the 70's. And "This Old Heartache" is the lost Leonard Cohen classic that you never heard:
'So let's go to Barcelona
We will be noted for our absence
Deep in ocean blues of absinthe....
..But please know for your own sake
I can be a moody guy...
The song writing on this album will 'shuddup you face' all the boring critics who say his work sounds 'unfinished'. There is such a richness and layering to these songs, musically and lyrically. This would be a great album to see on 'Austin City', but like NPR, they are way too tame and bougie (bourgeoisie) to even consider it.
I have dial-up too and it didn't take me long to grab the album, but use soulseek. Start with 'My Favorite Kiss', 'Everything is New' and
'Coastline' and go from there. I don't know why I picked those three songs cause you can't go wrong no matter which ones you start with. Take you about 10-15 minutes per song I reckon.
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =
Canada
3581 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2003 : 09:30:22
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quote:
Originally posted by Johnny Horton
The song writing on this album will 'shuddup you face' all the boring critics who say his work sounds 'unfinished'.
... icorporating Simpson's quote... GOLD..... |
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Johnny Horton
- FB Fan -
USA
14 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2003 : 09:37:12
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Originally posted by echo park
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Originally posted by Johnny Horton
It's nice to hear the female voice in Manitoba, something
I want to hear in FB&C from time to time and really nicely done here.
Yes!! That's my girl!!! Ok, and a couple others were there, too. She's sleeping right now, but I'll show her your post tomorrow.
Be sure to tell Frank next time you see him! We would love to do some moreof that stuff!!
OK who are you and who is your girl? I'm not an inner circle guy, just a fan. And my Momma told me that it was FB's wife Jean singing on the album. |
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
1750 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2003 : 14:43:06
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i've just heard Massif Centrale on the radio and was blown away! i didn't know what song was what when he did them live except new house of the pope and nadine, cos they've been mentioned a lot hear and those words are repeated a lot in those songs, but i wasn't really listenin to thr radio, but it was on, and i recognised franks voice immediatly and ran over and turned it up. what an amazing song. i was singing along even though i didn't know the words!
bored of the little comments. i guess i'll just have an actual signature. much shorter.
-Jessie |
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TRANSMARINE
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
2002 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2003 : 18:49:39
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Well...after swearing to all holiness that may exist that i would NOT download this album but wait like a good boy until it is offically released, I fell off the wagon. Last weekend I did the nasty and snatched it off the internet! Dont get me wrong...I still will purchase the thing when it hits stores in September.
As for my analysis of Show Me Your Tears...remember the jolt that came from DITS after the powerhouse of Pistolero? Well, thank you Mr. Black for doing the same again! Although I liked BLD & DW quite a bit, I felt they were somewhat of mirrordust left over from the amazing DITS. SMYT is like a 'welcome home' to the psychoward of difference Charles so delicatley smashes over our heads. It's melodic, dorky, sublime, spooky, thematic, anthematic, bitter, fun, and downright smart. I, like a lot of fans, am growing more and more to absolutely love it the more I hear it. His music is like a martini...it's work! You struggle to get it down, and the more you do, the better it tastes...and the reward is that salty wonderful olive! And that Masiff Centrale! My goodness! What a song! Seems as if he's pulled a fast one and purposely left MC off TOTY JUST to keep us around listening! Beautiful!
Catchin' blue in his eyes that were brown
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1938 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2003 : 19:06:21
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Originally posted by Brackish Girl
i've just heard Massif Centrale on the radio and was blown away!
I still haven't downloaded it, and that's how I felt when I heard Nadine on the radio. It blew my fucking ears off. Words could not even describe how it sounded. I can't wait to hear the rest of it. From live recordings, Massif Centrale is my favorite song so far |
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echo park
- FB Fan -
Saint Barthelemy
128 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2003 : 20:53:33
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Your Momma's always right, Johnny.
But there's often more to things than our mommas tell us...
Me no spilly guts until Sept. 8!
-eric |
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TOTIPOTENT
- Master of Differentiation -
USA
247 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2003 : 07:46:48
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Originally posted by big_galoof
does the falsetto mr. black affects in "massif centrale" get on anyone else's nerves?
TBG
Dude, that is the best part of the fucking song! My answer is no. Hell no!
Differentiation at it's best... |
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Brackish Girl
~ Soul Eater ~
Ireland
1750 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2003 : 07:57:55
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i agree with TOTIPOTENT, that falsetto is one of the most thrilling bits of that song, especially the way he goes deeper and higher again during it, if you know what i mean, which you probably don't.
bored of the little comments. i guess i'll just have an actual signature. much shorter.
-Jessie |
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