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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =

USA
891 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2003 :  06:41:19  Show Profile
Well, the new album has leaked guys. Promo copies have gone out. I haven't downloaded it yet, but here is where you test of fate comes in. So far the word is that it's damn good, with the most intricate production of any of his Catholics albums.

Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2003 :  06:48:35  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage
I need that album!

War....... Its not fantastic
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2003 :  08:36:45  Show Profile
fucking hell.. when is it coming out?! i can't wait that long.
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =

Italy
2139 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2003 :  11:43:14  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address
is it already on p2p?if yes on what client hav u seen it?

www.munchienandalusia.too.it
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1938 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2003 :  18:54:45  Show Profile
I'm not downloading it, I'm waiting, even though I hate waiting
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 06/08/2003 :  22:07:15  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage
hmmm..you know, i wonder sometimes if it's 'leaked' on purpose.

Happens *every* time! =)
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1439 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2003 :  01:08:07  Show Profile
i am prepared to wait - it made me like BLD all the more.
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ivandivel
= Cult of Ray =

394 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2003 :  01:45:26  Show Profile
How do you know? Have you actually seen it - or is it your assumption that people will leak it? Maybe you leaked it...
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ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -

USA
2953 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2003 :  08:36:48  Show Profile
I am gonna wait, no doubt about it. It's more fun doing the whole anticipation thing. If I downloaded all the songs, then bought the album in three months, it would not be as much of a thrill to buy it: "oh.. heh. I've already heard all these songs. I just need the artwork and CD case."

-Derek
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2003 :  09:13:04  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
It will be difficult, but I will try my darndest to wait. That said, I already have Nadine, so I'm not sure that I'm going to hold out that long...
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spunXtain
= Cult of Ray =

USA
377 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2003 :  10:04:49  Show Profile  Click to see spunXtain's MSN Messenger address
What p2p client has it been seen on?

Got coffee, got donuts, got wasted..
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =

USA
925 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2003 :  10:36:05  Show Profile  Visit Atheist4Catholics's Homepage
It's the same wait between albums weither you download it or not. If you stole BLD 3 months in advance and you steal this one 3 months in advance, what's the point? It's just because we're all ADD sufferers with zero emotional intelligence who can't bear to deny ourselves instant gratification.

Needless to say, I'm waiting. Half of the enjoyment of buying an album for me is the process of buying and opening it and looking at the sleeve. I don't believe that everyone on the forum who steals it online will actually buy the CD. I don't believe it for a second. You may think you will now, but in three or four months when you're looking at it in the store you'll have already worn it out on your computer and will buy something else instead.


Here's a plan. Pre-order the CD BEFORE you download the leaked copy.

www.mp3.com/clootie
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =

USA
891 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2003 :  10:39:17  Show Profile
I did not leak it! I haven't even heard it yet. Promo copies have been shipped out though, and today there was supposedly a bunch more shipped, so it will probably spread faster now.
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spunXtain
= Cult of Ray =

USA
377 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2003 :  12:36:01  Show Profile  Click to see spunXtain's MSN Messenger address
I will download it AND buy it. I download music to listen to on my PC but I buy CDs for in the car and everywhere else. I dont have a CD burner nor really care for one. I will buy Frank's albums simply to support him, as well. I plan on ordering direct from the spinart site.

Got coffee, got donuts, got wasted..
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2003 :  14:01:41  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage
If I download something and I end up liking it - I ALWAYS buy it. So whether you believe it or not (Atheist!) some of us do actually download first AND buy later.

Peace out.
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =

Italy
2139 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2003 :  19:43:15  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address
Ramona is right...I have to listen to it if it's out there,then i'll buy it both on cd and vinyl if ther will be a vinyl version...I always did...

www.munchienandalusia.too.it
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spunXtain
= Cult of Ray =

USA
377 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2003 :  19:46:33  Show Profile  Click to see spunXtain's MSN Messenger address
and still nobody has told us what p2p it's been seen on. I've not seen it on Kazaa yet

Got coffee, got donuts, got wasted..

Edited by - spunXtain on 06/09/2003 19:46:54
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mun chien andalusia
= Quote Accumulator =

Italy
2139 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2003 :  20:21:22  Show Profile  Visit mun chien andalusia's Homepage  Click to see mun chien andalusia's MSN Messenger address
Nada de nada on winmx too...

www.munchienandalusia.too.it
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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =

914 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2003 :  21:35:13  Show Profile
yeah i d/led both of the last 2 releases and then bought them 1st day they came out, i want to hear these songs!
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =

Canada
11687 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2003 :  23:09:21  Show Profile  Visit Cult_Of_Frank's Homepage
For the record, I didn't get Nadine off P2P, just captured the stream from CookingVinyl to an MP3, which I don't believe is being shared currently. As soon as Ms. Spinart gives the word that they're ready to go with the advance ordering, I'll be all over it. I really can't wait. And no, there's no way in #$^@$%^ I wouldn't buy the CD, I bought both DW/BLD as soon as they were available, and hope to get this one even sooner... though Atheist is probably right that there are others out there who won't.
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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1887 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2003 :  01:15:39  Show Profile  Visit ObfuscateByWill's Homepage
I bought DW in a shop.

I DL'd BLD from eMusic.com

What's so important about having a sleeve to look at?

*Bottleneck.
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Leah
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
314 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2003 :  02:45:30  Show Profile
NEED NEED MORE NEW FRANK!!!

NEED ALSO FOR HIM TO VISIT THE UK SOON!

I've now seen Nick Cave & Kristin Hersh twice in the time since Frank last played here in London - come on man - its only a small pond to navigate really.

It's not like you don't make money in the UK...


Every choice human being strives instinctively for a citadel and a secrecy where he is saved from the crowd -
Nietzsche
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -

United Kingdom
1733 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2003 :  03:06:14  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Leah

[red]NEED NEED MORE NEW FRANK!!!

NEED ALSO FOR HIM TO VISIT THE UK SOON!





Leah, he is playing in London in July and October! July 8th is Frank Solo - see Cooking Vinyl site

No man is an island, unless he is in the bath
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mdisanto
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1140 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2003 :  03:56:52  Show Profile  Visit mdisanto's Homepage
im sure its on IRC, you could probably find it in like 10 mins, ill look when i get home today, for those who want to download, but i dont think im going to


-miked
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DruggedBunny
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
395 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2003 :  04:03:06  Show Profile
Oh my God, I hate it when he comes all the way to the UK and only plays London! At least play *one* gig up in Scotland while you're here, man!


See ya,
--
James L Boyd.
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1439 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2003 :  04:09:50  Show Profile
did he play edinburgh last time (2 years ago)?
im sure he will play scotland as he hasnt announced any irish dates yet either.
cheers
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -

United Kingdom
1733 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2003 :  04:10:50  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by DruggedBunny

Oh my God, I hate it when he comes all the way to the UK and only plays London! At least play *one* gig up in Scotland while you're here, man!


See ya,
--
James L Boyd.




Agreed, James. I'm sure he will play up here in October - the other dates are yet to be announced

No man is an island, unless he is in the bath
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Leah
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
314 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2003 :  04:55:23  Show Profile
I care not one iota - if he was playing in Ireland alone I'd make the trek...

Not like I'm obsessed or anything but those reccid came out soooo long ago I was starting to think that he was allergic or something...

Every choice human being strives instinctively for a citadel and a secrecy where he is saved from the crowd -
Nietzsche
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DruggedBunny
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
395 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2003 :  05:44:37  Show Profile
Well, I 'did' the Glasgow and Dundee gigs on consecutive nights last time round, but it seems like so long ago now! Here's hoping...
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Stuart
- The Clopser -

China
2291 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2003 :  07:18:59  Show Profile  Visit Stuart's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by DruggedBunny

Oh my God, I hate it when he comes all the way to the UK and only plays London! At least play *one* gig up in Scotland while you're here, man!




I'm not sure if I can make this one and I'm fucking gutted. My flight back to China is scheduled for 1st July, the day after I get from Roskilde. I was tempted to not go to Roskilde and come back a week later for Frank, but the whole point of Roskilde is to spend time with my mates. If I stay until 10th my boss will be well pissed, so I have to make a decision. Shit, I want more than anything to see Frank live again and I constantly check the Roskilde band list to see if there is any small chance that he has confirmed a solo set at the festival. Wank!

War....... Its not fantastic
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1439 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2003 :  07:55:35  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Leah

I care not one iota - if he was playing in Ireland alone I'd make the trek...


and you would be more than welcome leah!
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spunXtain
= Cult of Ray =

USA
377 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2003 :  08:39:15  Show Profile  Click to see spunXtain's MSN Messenger address
Still haven't found the album leaked anywhere.

Got coffee, got donuts, got wasted..
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speedy_m
= Frankofile =

Canada
3581 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2003 :  13:58:18  Show Profile
As soon as I find this album on the net, I will download it. All of it. I will listen to it mercilessly. I will most likely burn it and listen to it in my car. A lot. And then, on the day in September when it is officially released, I will be first in line at my local cool record store (Oh Vinyl Diner, how I love you) to buy it. What is the problem with this process? Will there be as much excitement in listening to the record when I buy it? No. I did the same thing with BLD and DW. Did it ruin those records for me? No. I listen to them regularily. I have bought and will continue to buy everything Frank puts his name on.

Obfuscatebywill, what's so important about looking at a sleeve? Well, lyrics for one. More importantly, it's part of the album. They call it album "art", but the music is art, so it's all artwork. When an artist releases an album, I hope the album "art" is important to them, because it's all part of it. Surely the music is the most important thing, but owning an album and looking at the art while listening is all part of the experience. That's what's so great about vinyl. A great big canvas to put beautiful artwork on that can be appreciated while listening, or even without the music. How great is it to listen to Sgt. Pepper's while staring at the cover for hours, identifying people, or just reading the lyrcis along with the record?
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =

USA
925 Posts

Posted - 06/10/2003 :  23:18:31  Show Profile  Visit Atheist4Catholics's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by speedy_m

As soon as I find this album on the net, I will download it. All of it. I will listen to it mercilessly. I will most likely burn it and listen to it in my car. A lot. And then, on the day in September when it is officially released, I will be first in line at my local cool record store (Oh Vinyl Diner, how I love you) to buy it. What is the problem with this process?



The problem with that process is that not everyone is a responsible patron of the arts like you appear to be. If the world was full of people like you, my throat would not be sore.

www.mp3.com/clootie
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DruggedBunny
= Cult of Ray =

United Kingdom
395 Posts

Posted - 06/11/2003 :  03:49:11  Show Profile
quote:

what's so important about looking at a sleeve? Well, lyrics for one. More importantly, it's part of the album

I no longer get any thrill at all from album sleeves; CD covers are just too small to be worth squinting at... :(
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bazza
* Dog in the Sand *

Ireland
1439 Posts

Posted - 06/11/2003 :  04:27:06  Show Profile
hmmm.... as victor meldrew would say
'i dont belieeeeeeve (in) it.'

i think albums have more appeal when they are originals and not downloads. as atheist rightly said - it is a charm thing. and its also my way of funding more FB releases seeing as he doesnt tour here too much.
cheers
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