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ivandivel
= Cult of Ray =
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 Posted - 08/04/2003 : 01:20:00
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Not "about" mr Black - inspired by. It would be a true creative contribution. Tribute albums are, 95% of the time, not very interesting (i haven't listened to the one by the board). Few manage to bring anything new and worthwhile into already brilliant songs. And if you did it on the previous try, chances are you'll not make it again.
Artists rip off other artists all the time. It would be no different from other compilations, only that we'd openly admit where we took it from. |
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noexx
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 08/05/2003 : 02:17:24
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i got wild and finished a song for a pixies tribute the other day. i hope no one else does it and i can submit it. whatever.
ryan
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noexx
= Cult of Ray =
361 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2003 : 03:08:57
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crapola...that link shouldn't have followed my post...i hate that!
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blackpurse
= Cult of Ray =
USA
299 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2003 : 06:03:11
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Originally posted by noexx
i got wild and finished a song for a pixies tribute the other day. i hope no one else does it and i can submit it. whatever.
ryan
http://www.pinback.com
And if you can't submit it, BFD. Didja have fun? That's what matters!
"Sacred cows make the best burgers!"
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2003 : 07:20:18
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Originally posted by Steak n Sabre
Sorry, that was an off the cuff remark that seems to be the equvialent of an M-80 going off in my hand.
Of course it is much to soon to undertake another project. I was only trying to encourage everyone to start developing some ideas for when the time comes, and should have been more literal in saying that. Dropping down and giving 20......
No worries, sorry I came off so snippity, probably just a bad day. And I'm only 50% responsible for the plague of locusts, I swear. :) |
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Steak n Sabre
* Dog in the Sand *
Uzbekistan
1013 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2003 : 13:26:56
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Originally posted by ivandivel
I agree that that tribute albums have limited interest, but what about a worship album? I am not thinking psalms, but more like songs that obviously are inspired by the great man. There is no one that i have learned so many tricks from as mr Black. Would be nice to show some respect by openly admitting that these songs are inspired, or perhaps ripped directly (riffs/vocal style/ lyrics) from his catalogue. I have at least two songs that are pretty "franky" in structure and how it is played. Hell, mr Black openly admitted his inspirations and rip-offs in the liner notes of one his albums (was it oddballs?). Maybe we could call it "trying to be frank".
This idea is pretty cool. Certainly worth considering once we catch our breath. I'd guess quite a few of us already have stuff in the can that reeks of FB influence.
If tracks like Velvety Inst. Mix, Manta Ray, and Ceclia Ann were the call, this could be called my response. www.sixthstation.com/fi/mp3.html
Sorry it's not streaming, so it will take as long as 4.3 meg takes to download.
All comments welcome, via e-mail please. |
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mkingicus
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 08/06/2003 : 12:27:52
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That is a great idea. I think I would rather do that than actually cover an FB tune. I tend to use some off times/beats that resemble things that Frank had mastered (invented, maybe). It makes music a little more interesting and less ordinary. I would definately like to be a part of something like that, if it ever happened.
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 08/07/2003 : 06:59:03
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It's a mighty fine line between influence and plagarism when you specifically set it up as a "Influenced by FB Tribute". I'm afraid it's just going to sound like a rip-off fest. Why don't we just do a Forum Sampler and have people submit they're best stuff regardless of weither it sounds like Frank. As influenced as I am by FB I don't think I have any songs that sound remotely like his.
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the swimmer
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 08/07/2003 : 07:45:52
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Originally posted by Atheist4Catholics
It's a mighty fine line between influence and plagarism when you specifically set it up as a "Influenced by FB Tribute". I'm afraid it's just going to sound like a rip-off fest. Why don't we just do a Forum Sampler and have people submit they're best stuff regardless of weither it sounds like Frank. As influenced as I am by FB I don't think I have any songs that sound remotely like his.
www.mp3.com/clootie
Why don't we just have a "Crossroads" style guitar-off linked via RealAudio and whoever plays the most notes wins a Frank Black plectrum. |
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ivandivel
= Cult of Ray =
394 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2003 : 08:39:20
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Originally posted by Atheist4Catholics
It's a mighty fine line between influence and plagarism when you specifically set it up as a "Influenced by FB Tribute". I'm afraid it's just going to sound like a rip-off fest. Why don't we just do a Forum Sampler and have people submit they're best stuff regardless of weither it sounds like Frank. As influenced as I am by FB I don't think I have any songs that sound remotely like his.
www.mp3.com/clootie
Exactly. It might sound like a rip-off fest. And it might not. And it definetely does not have to sound like Frank Black. I am very poor at plagarism - my songs never end up like the one i was influenced by. And it might sound very bad, or good. I just think it would be a little more interesting than a bunch of covers.
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peter radiator
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 08/07/2003 : 12:15:34
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Originally posted by the swimmer
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Originally posted by Atheist4Catholics
It's a mighty fine line between influence and plagarism when you specifically set it up as a "Influenced by FB Tribute". I'm afraid it's just going to sound like a rip-off fest. Why don't we just do a Forum Sampler and have people submit they're best stuff regardless of weither it sounds like Frank. As influenced as I am by FB I don't think I have any songs that sound remotely like his.
www.mp3.com/clootie
Why don't we just have a "Crossroads" style guitar-off linked via RealAudio and whoever plays the most notes wins a Frank Black plectrum.
Psssst... Bass-off at the Hothouse!
~ Peter Radiator
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2003 : 12:28:03
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Well, the next album is a Pixies tribute involving straight covers. There's no changing that, although this is very interesting speculation for any future projects following it. I don't really know how much I like the idea of a FB tribute CD of music from bands that happen to like him and/or claim some influence, whether obvious or not. I like the idea of listening to the music, but I think that can be done without making it into a compilation CD of sorts through website links and so on. You hear an artist you like, look up their website in the Tribute CD page or in the MP3's ID3 tag.
I've checked out all the bands that have covered songs and have websites etc, with mixed results. I'd definitely recommend you all do the same. I don't imagine there are any musicians on the FB forum who would claim they derive no influence from Frank Black, so you're pretty much safe to download anyone's music from here and create a CD. |
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ivandivel
= Cult of Ray =
394 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2003 : 13:05:54
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| okidoki - it was a suggestion only. It was meant as a little "hats off" - paying homage - to the man himself - in a different way than making covers. |
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2003 : 13:58:55
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| Wasn't meaning to veto it as a potential idea, but just wanted to keep it clear that the next project IS a Pixies Tribute. It's an interesting idea otherwise, and the rest was just my thoughts on the idea... keep the ideas coming. |
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