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Omer
= Cult of Ray =
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 Posted - 03/03/2003 : 13:15:52
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Well, Michael Newdow thought that the US pledge of alligment shouldn't have the words 'under god' between 'one nation' and 'indivisable'. The court seemed to have agreed. The US Senate is unanimously against. But what does the constitution say? This sounds more and more like an episode of the 'The Weakest Link'. What do you think?
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/03/03/pledge.of.allegiance.reut/index.html |
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Chris Knight
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 03/03/2003 : 16:12:07
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| I suppose the phrase could be considered an gratuitous archaism at this point. Whatever. |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
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Posted - 03/03/2003 : 20:01:13
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| You know, I attended a catholic school all my life and never really thought about what we said when we said it (had to do the lord's prayer and pledge every morning) until high school when my belief in god faded and poofed out of existence. I don't think anyone should be forced to say it..."one nation, under god." Not everyone believes in god. So those who don't are less American? I would hope not. |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2003 : 09:47:47
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| The "under God" part was added by an act of Congress in 1954. A nice, wholesome era of McCarthyism and paranoia. |
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misterwoe
= Cult of Ray =
Greece
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Posted - 03/04/2003 : 09:57:00
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| In doesn't really matter; seeing as how all of our god-given rights are being raped from us anyway. |
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =
USA
891 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2003 : 11:07:37
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| Yeah, it seems too creepy-propaganda like to be forced to recite it. |
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Mellzah
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Posted - 03/04/2003 : 12:54:47
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| Of course, with a wholly christian president and the majority of seats in the house/senate being white republican christians, the likelihood of any decision being made that reflects the will of the people is slim and none. |
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JamesM
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 03/04/2003 : 13:38:20
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I don't think that particular portion of the pledge should be required to be said. Violates a little thing called the Establishment Clause.
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astroman
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Portugal
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Posted - 03/05/2003 : 00:54:15
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I´m amazed...your Bush government is the saddiest toon movie world have seen for ages. probably one day Bush and his "oil and destroy" friends will try to force Frank Black to change is "Dog in the sand" to "God in the sand" ...as the oil came out from the Desert.
Fortunatelly you guys and girls here seem to be far way more clever than your Gov. |
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misterwoe
= Cult of Ray =
Greece
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Posted - 03/05/2003 : 06:57:55
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Originally posted by Mellzah
Of course, with a wholly christian president and the majority of seats in the house/senate being white republican christians, the likelihood of any decision being made that reflects the will of the people is slim and none.
Christian President? Have you forgotten the FACT that George Bush was a member of the skull and bones? And let us not forget Bohemian Grove. Don't believe me? Check it out and infowars.com. |
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =
USA
4020 Posts |
Posted - 03/05/2003 : 15:21:49
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| True, misterwoe, but he is as bible-beating as they get. |
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ProverbialCereal
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USA
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Posted - 03/05/2003 : 17:23:12
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Originally posted by Mellzah
Of course, with a wholly christian president and the majority of seats in the house/senate being white republican christians, the likelihood of any decision being made that reflects the will of the people is slim and none.
It's called voting. Americans voted for those people in house/senate and that is the "will of the people" essentially. We aren't under a dictatorship, sheesh.
And no one is forced to say the pledge of allegiance as far as i know. I mean, i'm sure there has been some instance where a kid has gotten in trouble for not saying it. But seriously, the only people i know of that recite the pledge in a perfunctory-fashion everyday are elementary thru high school kids. I remember the days of saying it over and over everyday, and frankly, when you do something routinely like that for that many years of your life, it loses meaning anyway. It should be like a once a week deal.
The thing is, this nation was found "under God." Religious freedom was one reason those pilgrim-people came over to this land. Sure America is slowly rotting in it's own feces now, so how could America even be considered "religious" anymore? Well, i don't know!
Too many random thoughts in my head...
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
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Posted - 03/05/2003 : 19:52:54
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Mellzah
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Posted - 03/06/2003 : 18:17:58
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Originally posted by ProverbialCereal
It's called voting. Americans voted for those people in house/senate and that is the "will of the people" essentially.
I didn't vote for him. None of my friends voted for him. Al Gore won the majority vote. What happened to the 'will of the people' there?
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We aren't under a dictatorship, sheesh.
Not yet. Ignore your rights and they'll disappear.
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