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vilainde
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Niue
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mdisanto
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1140 Posts |
 Posted - 01/23/2003 : 03:40:24
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haha thats cool, 150k for creed.
and that tool costs 200k.
i bet you could convince youre college to get frank to come pretty easily. i think ill defintily try it.
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steveplymouthuk
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
639 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2003 : 04:42:58
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| frank's a bit of a bargain. Still if that's what it takes to get him to come over here to the UK |
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gary13th
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
632 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2003 : 05:25:46
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afroman would get more than FB&TC ? $7-10k ! sheesh !
I thought that wouldnt be the case
and then i got high...
~you will get used to me, welcome to your new joy
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steveplymouthuk
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
639 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2003 : 05:29:01
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Ten Percenter
- FB Enquirer -
United Kingdom
1733 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2003 : 05:30:27
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| Should we get a collection going Steve? |
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Atheist4Catholics
= Cult of Ray =
USA
925 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2003 : 06:55:52
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You probably have to make travel and hotel arrangements on top of that, right?
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steveplymouthuk
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
639 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2003 : 08:23:11
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| i expect travel would be extra. I've got plenty of room to put them up for the night! I'll have to add the next student loan cheque to the collection. I hope you are rich Andy |
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Bohemoth
- FB Fan -
USA
246 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2003 : 09:02:47
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| 150k plus for creed. I wouldn't pay 5 bucks for creed. |
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Chip Away Boy
= Cult of Ray =
914 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2003 : 09:33:37
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| hey everyone in NY, lets get our fund going, they can play in my backyard! THomAS?!?! |
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos
Canada
4496 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2003 : 11:08:53
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hmm..looking at 'cheaper' acts.. Built to Spill is $5k, Emo Phillips is $3k, Beta Band is $5k..nothing else under $5k grabs my attention tho.
Cheapest band listed is '6 Gig'...hehe.. |
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mereubu
= FB QuizMistress =
USA
2677 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2003 : 11:12:47
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| Poor 38 Special! They're simply listed as being "generally available." |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2003 : 14:42:16
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| $20k for the "generally available" Spin Doctors? They said I was crazy, but I knew they had STAYING POWER! |
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =
Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
464 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2003 : 21:42:30
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So let's do some bargain hunting. On a $50,000 budget ($46.5 K) we are looking at (taking for granted the dream 10 show Frank set):
Aisha Tyler (thump, thump, thump) $7.5k
Bob Mould $7.5k
Dar Williams $7.5k
Frank Black $5k
Juliana Hatfield $4k
Steven Wright $15k
Since most of us on this board likely fall into the six-figure tax bracket (actually only $98,500), let's add a few acts:
Aisha Tyler $7.5k
Bob Mould $7.5k
Buffalo Tom $7k
Built to Spill $5k
Dar Williams $7.5k
Frank Black $5k
Juliana Hatfield $4k
Kids in the Hall $40k
Steven Wright $15k
Anyone suggest another lineup?
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =
Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
464 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2003 : 21:45:41
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Or I suppose we could just get Huey Lewis for an hour.
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"Music has sounded better and our hair has been smaller ever since."--St. Francis |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 01/23/2003 : 22:35:57
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on a semi-unrelated note.. i know this is none of my business, but i've always been kind of curious:
what do you guys think the rest of the band makes? how are additional band members (guitarists, drummers etc..) usually paid?
is it like, when they're on tour they get a weekly rate, plus food and lodging.. or do you think they get a per gig percentage.. plus X amount of spending cash what have you..
and for the albums, do you think they get a percentage of sales? or just a flat rate, up front? and if so, what range are we talking about?
again, none of my business, but i'm just curious.
maybe someone with more music business know how can answer this.. or give an example of a band similar to the Catholics..
sorry to pry..
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mdisanto
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1140 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2003 : 03:46:48
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yah you gotta wonder, i mean no offense frank, but im pretty sure the catholics arent hauling in huge sums. and when you have like 5 or 6 people in the band and then even more people on the record. you gotta imagine that the money is split up a lot. good question though, id like to find out about that.
oh and john, why dont you add wilco to your list while youre at it.
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mereubu
= FB QuizMistress =
USA
2677 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2003 : 04:53:53
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quote:
Originally posted by johndietzel
Since most of us on this board likely fall into the six-figure tax bracket (actually only $98,500), let's add a few acts:
Aisha Tyler $7.5k
Bob Mould $7.5k
Buffalo Tom $7k
Built to Spill $5k
Dar Williams $7.5k
Frank Black $5k
Juliana Hatfield $4k
Kids in the Hall $40k
Steven Wright $15k
Anyone suggest another lineup?
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"Music has sounded better and our hair has been smaller ever since."--St. Francis
So John, does it mention in the Kids in the Hall booking info how much it would cost to buy Dave Foley for an hour? (I just want to talk to him, I swear! The man's an evil comic genius.) ;-) |
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themaninblack
- FB Fan -
USA
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Posted - 01/24/2003 : 08:02:19
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Originally posted by Bohemoth
150k plus for creed. I wouldn't pay 5 bucks for creed.
Not that I actually like Creed (I don't), but if you sold tickets at $50 apiece and offered, say, $5K to some farmer for use of his back 40, rented the stage equipment, etc., and sold concessions for another channel of revenue, you could come out quite a bit ahead on a gig like that.
Then again for FB&C I could max out a credit card and get a concert going in my own basement, which would be worth every penny and then some. ;-)
Are they grey or is it my own nation? |
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =
Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
464 Posts |
Posted - 01/24/2003 : 20:50:13
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Originally posted by mereubu
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Originally posted by johndietzel
Kids in the Hall $40k
Steven Wright $15k
Anyone suggest another lineup?
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"Music has sounded better and our hair has been smaller ever since."--St. Francis
So John, does it mention in the Kids in the Hall booking info how much it would cost to buy Dave Foley for an hour? (I just want to talk to him, I swear! The man's an evil comic genius.) ;-)
Funny, I was gonna ask what it would cost without Foley, since I would imagine he probably draws 25 of the 40K if the fee includes him. He is, sadly, really the only Kid to move on to much success after kaput. Sorry, but I'd totally rather have Kevin Mc and/or Bruce Mc and/or Scott T if I could choose. My wife loves Anne of Green Gables. Have you seen it, with Bruce McCullough and Dave Foley? It is surreal. It is absolutely impossible to believe Bruce Mc trying to pull off the normal Prince Edward Island "chap" with that permanently goofy face on the whole time. All that guy has to do to be funny is show me his face. "Eradicator!"
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chipahoyboy
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Posted - 01/25/2003 : 07:06:06
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mereubu
= FB QuizMistress =
USA
2677 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2003 : 08:57:27
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D'ya think she'd wear the cheerleader outfit?
No, johndietzel, I've never seen them in Anne of Green Gables. That's bizarre and I will definitely check it out. For humor, I'd want Mark or Scott. I must confess my interests in Dave are not purely comedic; he's a little cupcake. (Or was. Now he seems to be a bitter alcoholic if Same Guys New Dresses is any indication.) No, I want to buy Dave Foley circa 1990 for an hour. A looooong hour. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2003 : 13:48:37
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Answer to Floop:
I think you can't really say the players are really IN the band.
Before you get mad, let me exlain it to you.
It's not like they started a band together. Frank went solo, did two records with Feldman, and I think he wanted something more like a backing band. The Catholics are basicly a backing band. I don't know, they seem more session musicians to me (Rich Gilbert, for instance, was a session musician for lot's of bands.
Like Uncle Tupelo, Throwing Muses, Tanya Donelly).
Ok, ok, don't get me wrong, Session Musicians Plus, 'cause I consider the Catholics and Frank to be friends and have their own ''produce''-input and stuff.
So I think they aren't really session musicians like: play this solo and I'll give you ten bucks. But it ain't like this either: Let's make a record together, let's write the songs together and share the credits. Frank is a dictator, but he fair one.
I think Frank pays them to play sessions with him, no royalty's or so.
And he pays them to go on tour with him. The catholics must have there own price, I think. They certainly have their own schedule, like Rich Gilbert toured with Tanya Donnely and didn't have time to play on Devil's Workshop.
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 01/25/2003 : 18:37:37
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bill, with all due respect, that doesn't answer my question.
HOW MUCH do you think they get paid?
to play on an album, for a tour, etc..
whether or not they're "in the band" is a separate debate.. which i don't really care to argue (for me, i consider them in the band and i consider FB&C's to be a "band")..
so you think for the albums it's just a flat rate and no precentage of sales? if so, what range are we talking about?
and for tours?? per gig payment or flat rate for a whole tour session? and again, like, around what? i hate to be nosey.. i'm really just curious what musicaians make in general.. who aren't at like the Areosmith level, but are more around the FB&C's level..
but about them being a "band" or not, so you don't think Frank "shares the credits" with them? i'm not sure what you mean.. in my eyes, it seems like what they've got going is no different from any other "band".. even if the singer/songwriter is "dictating" things, that doesn't make them less of a band. everyone in the band contributes their own stamp to some degree.
these arguments usually become quickly annoying.. i got into it the other day with someone about whether The Jimmy Hendrix Experience was a band or not. and it almost ended in strangulation..
anyway, if i'm being to nosey i'll just drop it. just curious what an average musician makes doing what they do.. give or take..
you know, more mid-rage level band.. not Bruce Springsteen, but not local coffee shop band.. somewhere in the middle.
can anyone give me an example?
i occasionally eat chateaubriand. |
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 01/25/2003 : 19:10:16
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Originally posted by floop
so you think for the albums it's just a flat rate and no precentage of sales? if so, what range are we talking about?
and for tours?? per gig payment or flat rate for a whole tour session?
I think the Catholics do get a percentage of album sales, and of show receipts. Not that I have any inside info, just that it would be the fair thing to do, and therefore what Frank would do. |
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2003 : 14:31:07
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I'm sorry floop
that I couldn't give you a good answer
But who has?
No one really knows how FB and The C's work....
sorry if my arguments were anoying
''it's not a box, it's a submarine'' |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 01/26/2003 : 23:08:08
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quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman
I'm sorry floop
that I couldn't give you a good answer
But who has?
No one really knows how FB and The C's work....
sorry if my arguments were anoying
''it's not a box, it's a submarine''
c'mon dude. now you're making me feel like a dick.
it's not annoying.. i just find that those kinds of arguments can go on forever.. it's just a matter of semantics.
was David Bowie a band or solo artist? what about with the spiders from mars??
anyway, sorry if i sounded like a dick. i'm just curious what musicians in general make.. because i have no clue.
for instance, if i'm a guitarist playing in a medium sized rock band.. and we play at say, the El Rey in Los Angeles, or the Bowary Ballroom in New York. how much do you think i bring in that night?
i occasionally eat chateaubriand. |
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