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misterwoe
= Cult of Ray =

Greece
675 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2003 :  16:57:26  Show Profile  Visit misterwoe's Homepage
In may of 2002 FB&TC was scheduled to come to Lawrence with Tom Waits, the only place I get to see Frank when he tours. The show was 18 and over, and of course, I bought my tickets the day they came out. One week before the show, I called the club (hey, I'm paranoid) to ensure the show was still going on. It was, but the voice on the other end of the phone informed me the show had been changed to 21 and over. I'm under 21, so naturally, my heart was broken and I didn't have enough time to make a fake id. I tried getting in, but it didn't happen. Why was the show changed you ask. Because it was supposedy sponsored by Winston, a motherfucking cigarette company. I was old enough to smoke their product, but not to go to the show. Frank came back last october, but I still haven't gotten over the experience.

Leonard Cohen is cool.

"What the fuck are we doing in the desert?"

floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2003 :  17:04:25  Show Profile
if that happened to me i would be filled with woe too, mr. woe.

i occasionally eat chateaubriand.
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mereubu
= FB QuizMistress =

USA
2677 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2003 :  17:40:11  Show Profile  Visit mereubu's Homepage
Word to your mother. That sucks ass.
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big_galoof
= Cult of Ray =

USA
310 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2003 :  18:00:15  Show Profile  Visit big_galoof's Homepage
i'm pretty sure that tom waits didn't tour in 2002. also: he generally plays larger venues than mr. black - like the beacon in nyc, the wiltern theater in la, the orpheum in boston - that kind of place; all 2000+ seat theaters.

TBG

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misterwoe
= Cult of Ray =

Greece
675 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2003 :  19:47:08  Show Profile  Visit misterwoe's Homepage
I'm telling you, Tom Waits was there, at the Bottleneck, opening for FB. Of course I couldn't tell you I saw him because I didn't get to go, but that is what it said on my ticket.

Leonard Cohen is cool.

"What the fuck are we doing in the desert?"
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ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -

USA
2953 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2003 :  20:08:49  Show Profile
tom waits opening for FB? i dunno about that. I don't think he toured at all last year like Mr. Galoof said.

Maybe there was like... a wet t-shirt contest added to the set so that's why it was 21+.

Derek
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Visiting Sasquatch
= Cult of Ray =

USA
451 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2003 :  20:36:22  Show Profile
I'm selling tickets to the Pixies reunion. My asking price is one meeeeeeeellion dollars. Bwahaha. Bwahahahaha. Bwahahahahahahaha.

j/k.
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misterwoe
= Cult of Ray =

Greece
675 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2003 :  20:46:50  Show Profile  Visit misterwoe's Homepage
Just wait till my psychodelic band gets rolling, yeah. We'll have wet t-shirt contests and tom waits and everything. Yeah, I'll show you all. AAAHAHHHHHHHAAHHHH.

Whoa. Sorry, I don't know what got into me there.



Leonard Cohen is cool.

"What the fuck are we doing in the desert?"
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =

Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
464 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2003 :  21:07:11  Show Profile  Visit johndietzel's Homepage
I once saw Jesus warming up for John the Baptist.

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"Music has sounded better and our hair has been smaller ever since."--St. Francis
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misterwoe
= Cult of Ray =

Greece
675 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2003 :  21:23:31  Show Profile  Visit misterwoe's Homepage
Yeah, Yeah, I was able to score tickets for that off of EBAY.

Leonard Cohen is cool.

"What the fuck are we doing in the desert?"
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Itchload
= Cult of Ray =

USA
891 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2003 :  11:17:20  Show Profile
Hey Misterwoe, I feel your pain. One time Robyn Hitchcock was playing in New York, I live at Umass Amherst, I visited my friend who goes to a school in Connecticut, a 100 dollar train ticket, then took a train from there into New York, spent about an hour trying to find the place, then discovered it was 21+. I even bumped into Ira Kaplan and Georgia Hubley of Yo La Tengo and shook their hand, they were going to the show too. I mean, the main point of my visit was to visit my friend in connecticut, but it still sucked. Needless to say, we missed the subway ride home and had to sleep in the subway...and there are some WEIRD people in the New York subway at 4 in the morning.
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ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -

USA
2953 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2003 :  13:22:58  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by johndietzel

I once saw Jesus warming up for John the Baptist.


That was before Jesus went solo right? When he was touring with the Disciples? (Bartholomew being one of them)

Derek
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Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1758 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2003 :  13:44:28  Show Profile  Visit Jose Jones's Homepage
i missed frank the last 3 times he played in chicago due to 21+. the most recent one i missed was a "solo" show. i hate my life.

-dan
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Dave Noisy
Minister of Chaos

Canada
4496 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2003 :  16:01:35  Show Profile  Visit Dave Noisy's Homepage
Yay! Another Robyn fan! =)
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St. Francis
= Cult of Ray =

Canada
548 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2003 :  17:29:07  Show Profile
Where is Lawrence?

Brothers be on my jock 'cause the way I hold a piece of steel...
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =

Mexico
15297 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2003 :  18:36:19  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by ProverbialCereal

quote:
Originally posted by johndietzel

I once saw Jesus warming up for John the Baptist.


That was before Jesus went solo right? When he was touring with the Disciples? (Bartholomew being one of them)

Derek



i actually prefer his solo stuff.. JC&D's were pretty overrated and pretentious in my opinion. all that "eat my body" "drink my blood" stuff. it was totally just for shock value.

he definitely matured as a solo artist.

i occasionally eat chateaubriand.

Edited by - floop on 01/16/2003 18:46:25
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johndietzel
= Cult of Ray =

Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
464 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2003 :  21:34:19  Show Profile  Visit johndietzel's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by floop

quote:
Originally posted by ProverbialCereal

quote:
Originally posted by johndietzel

I once saw Jesus warming up for John the Baptist.


That was before Jesus went solo right? When he was touring with the Disciples? (Bartholomew being one of them)

Derek



i actually prefer his solo stuff.. JC&D's were pretty overrated and pretentious in my opinion. all that "eat my body" "drink my blood" stuff. it was totally just for shock value.

he definitely matured as a solo artist.

i occasionally eat chateaubriand.

Yeah. And without JC, the disciples were really nothing. I mean that Yoko Iscariot guy was totally after the coin. As far as I;m concerned it was suicide on his part.

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misterwoe
= Cult of Ray =

Greece
675 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2003 :  06:53:48  Show Profile  Visit misterwoe's Homepage
[quote]Originally posted by St. Francis

Where is Lawrence?

Lawrence, Kansas. I see most of my shows at this small bar called the bottleneck. It is awesome! So many great people have played there. Frank Black comes there all the time, he came twice just last year! Radiohead has even played there, and Ben Kweller is coming in February, that will be awesome.

Leonard Cohen is cool.

"What the fuck are we doing in the desert?"
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big_galoof
= Cult of Ray =

USA
310 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2003 :  08:07:48  Show Profile  Visit big_galoof's Homepage
http://www.mediablazedesign.com/gd/black_bottleneck.htm

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themaninblack
- FB Fan -

USA
37 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2003 :  10:40:59  Show Profile
It's a refreshing surprise to see that under-21 would even be an issue with some Frank fans. That is way cool that it isn't just limited to aging-punk-rocker farts (39) like me.

Maybe next tour that would be something for FB&C to keep in mind though: keep the shows all-ages.


Are they grey or is it my own nation?
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franktaper
- FB Fan -

USA
158 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2003 :  16:51:16  Show Profile
Actually Eileen Rose opened for FB&TC at that show (Lawrence, KS, 5/1/02). She and her band also opened the Chicago shows, Lincoln, and Albuquerque on that tour. Possibly more shows, but I seem to think just those shows for some reason. I was at that Lawrence show and it was ok. I saw Dave Phillips walking around downtown that afternoon
matt
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mereubu
= FB QuizMistress =

USA
2677 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2003 :  19:33:24  Show Profile  Visit mereubu's Homepage
She opened for the Little Rock, AR show too on 4/26/02.
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citizen30
- FB Fan -

USA
54 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2003 :  23:54:55  Show Profile
jesus suks ass!

Or maybe thats what got us into this shit anyhow! I'm not going to be a catholic now, right?
It hurts me to the soul not to understand this thing about fucking jesus! His music sux.

Edited by - citizen30 on 01/17/2003 23:56:30
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peter radiator
= Cult of Ray =

USA
653 Posts

Posted - 01/18/2003 :  14:22:37  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by misterwoe

I'm telling you, Tom Waits was there, at the Bottleneck, opening for FB. Of course I couldn't tell you I saw him because I didn't get to go, but that is what it said on my ticket.




While Tom has certainly embraced the indie spirit with his recent signing to Epitaph, I too found it hard to believe he was supposed to open that show. However, Reid Paley who often tours as a support act for FB is regularly described by booking agents and clubowners as "a more antagonistic Tom Waits", or something to that effect. I wonder if someone confused the comparison with an actual booking? ha ha ha


~ Peter Radiator

"Real music is out there and real people are making it." ~ Webb Wilder
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Marilyn
- FB Fan -

1 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2003 :  13:07:00  Show Profile
Frank Black was playing at someplace in Philadelphia, but it was apparently an
"18 Over" venue...so I resigned myself to wait the 9 months out and hope he comes through again.
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El Barto
= Song DB Master =

USA
4020 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2003 :  13:40:56  Show Profile  Visit El Barto's Homepage
the place in Philly was probably the North Star Bar. I played there with the Bennies when i used to be in em.
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misterwoe
= Cult of Ray =

Greece
675 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2003 :  08:43:17  Show Profile  Visit misterwoe's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by franktaper

Actually Eileen Rose opened for FB&TC at that show (Lawrence, KS, 5/1/02). She and her band also opened the Chicago shows, Lincoln, and Albuquerque on that tour. Possibly more shows, but I seem to think just those shows for some reason. I was at that Lawrence show and it was ok. I saw Dave Phillips walking around downtown that afternoon
matt




Hey, maybe I'll see you at Frank's next show at the bottleneck. I'd be more than thrilled if I could buy some live stuff from you. Especially a 10/23/02 recording if you have one. That show rocked. I highly recomend that you check out ben kweller if you're not already going. He'll be at the bottleneck 2/6/03.

Leonard Cohen is cool.

"What the fuck are we doing in the desert?"
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eraser head
- FB Fan -

7 Posts

Posted - 01/24/2003 :  20:45:45  Show Profile
IT WAS EILEEN ROSE WITH FRANK AT THE BOTTLENECK
GREAT SHOW
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