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| billgoodman |
Posted - 10/01/2022 : 01:35:25
What we know (in chronical order):
- Doggerel was made with the 40 demo's/ideas that Frank (and a couple more from Joey) brought to the sessions. They had some good songs that didn't fit the record so they were put aside (acording to FBF in the French Rolling Stone)
- Paz says the band worked on 16 of the 40 songs (bass magazine interview) [12 were released on Doggerel]
- In april (source?) of 2022 the Pixies and Tom Dalgety recorded for a week in Rockfield Studios (Wales).
- One of the songs Frank liked from the demo's, but did not do during the Doggerel-sessions, that they tried to record in Wales. Bluesy, stomper song, "I enjoyed it as an acoustic demo" [...] they tried to make it bigger, better and louder, but "in the end it was just too loud", "too much information". It didn't work out, it was failure, "thank god we didn't release this because we were in a rush"
(interview on Raised on Radio)
- Joey brought some songs to the table again (working titles Howie's Garage, I hear you mary, Taking care of bid'ness, according to Uncut interview). They recorded three ideas in Rockfield (according to Under the Radar interview), maybe those three?
- Paz recorded two songs for it (according to BF in French interview)
- Frank to SPIN: [On Doggerel] "I think that’s one more writing collaboration than has appeared on any other disc in the Pixies catalog. I imagine there will be much more collaboration forthcoming. I sense it.”
- Session in Wales didn't go that well, acording to FBF in Ultimate Music Guide :
"I was not in a good mood for lots of reasons"
I was very frustrated because now Mr Fucking Producer wants to work on all the fucking artsy-fartsy scraps from the margin. I got all these 40 fucking songs I wrote, for once in my life I do my homework............Now I show up with the goods and they're like [] these werid little things that you didn't intend over here bla bla
[ ]
I threw my notebook on top of the roof [..] I threw about three temper tantrums in about eight days
- Joey in Under the Radar:
"we have recorded so far about seven or eight demos for the next album. There will be a ninth album, we’re planning that already. After a good amount of a break, we will start recording again some time next year. We’re already kicking around what part of the world to work and record in next time"
- October 2023: Pixies record a new session with Tom Dalgety at Guilford Sounds, same place were Doggerel was recorded
- Paz leaves the band in october 2023 - march 2024
- Pixies play Vegas Suite, a new song, on the Bossanova Trompe tour
- Pixies rehearse a new song, which is posted on instagram: https://fb.watch/qROLONNt-1/
- Frank Black plays a new song, which is posted on instagram:
https://fb.watch/qROQ6dvc5M/
- 11 song titles are published on the BMI website
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| billgoodman |
Posted - 05/02/2024 : 11:17:13
Motoroller is a great title
But I hope the new album is named Chicken
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| moonruler |
Posted - 05/02/2024 : 07:26:52
quote:
Originally posted by Troubles A Foot
quote:
Originally posted by moonruler
I don't know, 'Motoroller' has a bit of a ring to it.
I don't know. It is like very difficult to say, actually. Kind of the opposite of a ring. My mouth gets tangled.
Use a Boston accent with an 'a' instead of the 'er'. Motorolla, less tangly. To me, anyway. 
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| Troubles A Foot |
Posted - 05/01/2024 : 15:48:11
quote:
Originally posted by moonruler
I don't know, 'Motoroller' has a bit of a ring to it.
I don't know. It is like very difficult to say, actually. Kind of the opposite of a ring. My mouth gets tangled. |
| moonruler |
Posted - 05/01/2024 : 10:49:37
quote:
Originally posted by Stevio10
If the album title is one of those song titles, my money is on 'The Kings of the Prairie'
I don't know, 'Motoroller' has a bit of a ring to it. 'The Kings of the Prairie' works, too, though.
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| Stevio10 |
Posted - 05/01/2024 : 10:42:43
If the album title is one of those song titles, my money is on 'The Kings of the Prairie' |
| oddball |
Posted - 04/30/2024 : 13:51:32
Thanks, jake3, for posting this information. Let's hope some sort of announcement is around the corner.
-oddball |
| Sprite |
Posted - 04/30/2024 : 13:44:40
I'm so impatient :) |
| jake3 |
Posted - 04/30/2024 : 12:38:28
Never used this source before but I've noticed there are a few new songs listed as copyrighted by Frank & Joey here. Presumably these are collabs for the next album...
Title: Hypnotized
Date of Creation: 2023
Date of Registration: 25 Mar 2024
URL: https://publicrecords.copyright.gov/detailed-record/36318876
Title: I Hear You Mary
Date of Creation: 2023
Date of Registration: 25 Mar 2024
URL: https://publicrecords.copyright.gov/detailed-record/36318887
Other titles already mentioned are listed here too and just attributed to Frank...
Title: Chicken
Date of Creation: 2023
Date of Registration: 25 Mar 2024
URL: https://publicrecords.copyright.gov/detailed-record/36318886
Title: Ernest Evans
Date of Creation: 2023
Date of Registration: 25 Mar 2024
URL: https://publicrecords.copyright.gov/detailed-record/36318884
Title: Jane (The Night The Zombies Came)
Date of Creation: 2023
Date of Registration: 25 Mar 2024
URL: https://publicrecords.copyright.gov/detailed-record/36318875
Title: Johnny Good Man
Date of Creation: 2023
Date of Registration: 25 Mar 2024
URL: https://publicrecords.copyright.gov/detailed-record/36318874
Title: The Kings of the Prairie
Date of Creation: 2023
Date of Registration: 25 Mar 2024
URL: https://publicrecords.copyright.gov/detailed-record/36318873
Title: Mercy Me
Date of Creation: 2023
Date of Registration: 25 Mar 2024
URL: https://publicrecords.copyright.gov/detailed-record/36318872
Title: Motoroller
Date of Creation: 2023
Date of Registration: 25 Mar 2024
URL: https://publicrecords.copyright.gov/detailed-record/36318871
Title: Oyster Beds
Date of Creation: 2023
Date of Registration: 25 Mar 2024
URL: https://publicrecords.copyright.gov/detailed-record/36318870
Title: Primrose
Date of Creation: 2023
Date of Registration: 25 Mar 2024
URL: https://publicrecords.copyright.gov/detailed-record/36318868
Title: Vegas Suite
Date of Creation: 2023
Date of Registration: 25 Mar 2024
URL: https://publicrecords.copyright.gov/detailed-record/36318867
Title: You're So Impatient
Date of Creation: 2023
Date of Registration: 25 Mar 2024
URL: https://publicrecords.copyright.gov/detailed-record/36318866 |
| Stevio10 |
Posted - 04/12/2024 : 12:17:55
quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug
Cult of Ray is fantastic, gets better with age. But it will never be on the level of the SR through TOTY run. That’s the greatest streak of albums by anyone who has ever made music.
COR is great, to me it's Franks most Iggy album. |
| Stevio10 |
Posted - 04/12/2024 : 12:14:29
quote:
Originally posted by Sprite
Agh, I was hoping it was another demo disk for a 22 track special.
Me too! Not impossible considering the Beneath The Eyrie demos didn't appear for some time. Fingers crossed! |
| Bedbug |
Posted - 04/12/2024 : 11:08:06
Cult of Ray is fantastic, gets better with age. But it will never be on the level of the SR through TOTY run. That’s the greatest streak of albums by anyone who has ever made music. |
| billgoodman |
Posted - 04/12/2024 : 00:17:11
I really don't like that record, sorry.
Some songs leave no real impression on me
Soundwise it's fine. But the whole left guitar/right guitar approach is way better in the next couple of albums.
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| two reelers |
Posted - 04/11/2024 : 23:16:42
quote:
Originally posted by Troubles A Foot
Dance War rules and I will take anything from Cult of Ray over the Dalgety Pixies stuff.
Fully agree. COR is a masterpiece. I honestly think it is the best-sounding album the man ever put out. It has such a consistent sound. In a promotion interview of 1996, Frank stated that they had a clear vison how the album should sound - like "Live at Leeds" by the Who. I cannot think of any other FB/Pixies albums which have such a simple, pure and yet distinctive sound. I also think the songs on COR are great.
Not saying it is his "best" album, nor my favourite album (that would be TLM, and maybe FB self-titled). But it is definetely one which I still listen a lot to, and I still enjoy it every time.
I joined the cult of Souled American / 'cause they are a damn' fine band |
| Sprite |
Posted - 04/11/2024 : 14:16:24
Agh, I was hoping it was another demo disk for a 22 track special. |
| Stevio10 |
Posted - 04/11/2024 : 12:43:17
Interesting how there are 11 new titles considering all the recent albums have 12 tracks. Presuming it is a new album - and there will be 12 tracks - the other song could be a cover, an older song (please be o little cloud) or a brand brand new one.
Anyway, if anyone wants to view the BMI list of songs here's the website;
https://repertoire.bmi.com/Search/Search?Main_Search_Text=Charles%20Thompson%20michael&Main_Search=Catalog&Search_Type=all&View_Count=100&Page_Number=1&Part_Type=WriterList&Part_Id=CbxQZOBJglMSZyahenTXww%253d%253d&Part_Id_Sub=YO0HedHMatLb45JzS23DVw%253d%253d&Part_Cae=1qXwTosXzeDKmo29q3B%252frg%253d%253d&Original_Search=Writer%2FComposer |
| oddball |
Posted - 04/11/2024 : 08:51:13
Based on Tom Dalgety's instagram page, it looks like some recording is happening:
https://www.instagram.com/tomdalgety/
-oddball |
| billgoodman |
Posted - 04/11/2024 : 01:48:12
Billy Radcliff in the FBF-facebookgroup speculates that Chicken is (a cover or a hommage) to the Chubby Checker song.
"Ernest Evans" is Checkers real name.
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| billgoodman |
Posted - 04/09/2024 : 12:09:18
Cool song title
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| vilainde |
Posted - 04/09/2024 : 11:00:30
Ooooh I wanna hear the chicken song!
Denis
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| Bedbug |
Posted - 04/09/2024 : 10:05:44
quote:
Originally posted by Stevio10
Some new song titles listed on BMI.
What is the consensus, would you like me to post these? Don't want to spoil the song titles for anyone who would prefer to wait or ruin any potential upcoming announcements. Any suggestions?
Edit: if anyone wants to see the new song titles I've posted them on Ingur link below. Saves ruining it for anyone that doesn't want to see them!
https://imgur.com/a/3Tuqk8s
Very cool Stevio
Thanks for sharing
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| billgoodman |
Posted - 04/09/2024 : 09:07:13
Thanks, Stevio!
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| Sprite |
Posted - 04/09/2024 : 07:39:30
Thanks for posting! Am always happy to see these go by. |
| Stevio10 |
Posted - 04/09/2024 : 03:06:18
Some new song titles listed on BMI.
What is the consensus, would you like me to post these? Don't want to spoil the song titles for anyone who would prefer to wait or ruin any potential upcoming announcements. Any suggestions?
Edit: if anyone wants to see the new song titles I've posted them on Ingur link below. Saves ruining it for anyone that doesn't want to see them!
https://imgur.com/a/3Tuqk8s |
| billgoodman |
Posted - 04/04/2024 : 23:00:18
Joey plays great on that track. I also like some of the drums.
On a side note: Emma has liked my Instagram-comment "meanwhile you can record some tunes".You can find it as a reply on her post about a great March and looking forward to tour with Pixies in May. April is enough to replace some bass lines, right?
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| tamefan |
Posted - 04/04/2024 : 17:22:42
Hear Me Out has some redeeming qualities, suchas the playful post-chorus "bah-bah-bah-bah-bah"s which for some reason remind me of Talent. |
| billgoodman |
Posted - 03/28/2024 : 11:03:29
No, the "when you're tired"-bit is from the finger picking song Frank plays solo on insta/facebook.
And it indeed directly goes to a bridge (sort of)
Vegas Suite has a chorus-verse-chorus structure I think, the bridge is indeed instrumental. But it's no rocket science
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| johnnyribcage |
Posted - 03/28/2024 : 10:43:25
quote:
Originally posted by Bedbug
I’m no musician so let me ask you guys am I right that on Vegas Suite and the clip of the new song (“when you’re tired”) he’s going into a bridge after the first stanza? I dig both these songs a ton and even though the tempos are slower they move right along for me
I like Vegas Suite a little less every time I listen to it. I’m not sure which part is “when you’re tired.” I wouldn’t say there’s a bridge in the song. There’s the little, slightly more energetic interlude after the first full cycle of lyrics. I don’t feel like listening to it enough times to write them down but I’d call the hope he don’t hate us / save us / coming today bit a refrain. So the verses include the refrain, and what is essentially the chorus is also the refrain, preceded by what I’d call a pre-chorus. Not sure if that makes sense.
Anyway, the double time slightly more rocking bit is probably the closest thing to a bridge here, but it doesn’t work for me.
I had a bad reaction to your public hobby writings. |
| vilainde |
Posted - 03/28/2024 : 05:15:04
I had completely forgotten about Hear Me Out, googled it and now I remember that I meant to buy the 12" for Mambo Sun but changed my mind when I heard the A side...
Denis
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| Bedbug |
Posted - 03/26/2024 : 06:04:38
I’m no musician so let me ask you guys am I right that on Vegas Suite and the clip of the new song (“when you’re tired”) he’s going into a bridge after the first stanza? I dig both these songs a ton and even though the tempos are slower they move right along for me |
| billgoodman |
Posted - 03/25/2024 : 23:51:31
Emma's vocal on Jane-rehearsal sound wonderful, btw
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| Troubles A Foot |
Posted - 03/25/2024 : 16:51:14
It shows how important lyrics can be. Because if that song had great lyrics, it really would elevate it and it could become a favorite. It would tip it over the line. But because they're so boring, it kind of ruins the music, and makes the whole thing feel like a waste. Now some pieces of music are so incredible that the lyrics might not matter, but for ones on the fence like Hear Me Out, a good lyric is everything. |
| Brank_Flack |
Posted - 03/25/2024 : 16:35:02
quote:
Originally posted by Ziggy
The backing track is great, but the lyrics are poor. Didn't the podcast feature a version with BF's guide vocal for it with his own lyrics?
There's at least an album's worth of 2.0 era songs that don't appear to have been released (unless reworked into ones we have seen). Alice Prin and other pre-Indie Cindy demos, Down in Toulon, Super Lecker (played live at one or two shows)...
If that version exists, I would love to hear it!
I agree - I think the music is actually quite good but that the lyrics are as bland as it gets. |
| Ziggy |
Posted - 03/25/2024 : 15:27:39
The backing track is great, but the lyrics are poor. Didn't the podcast feature a version with BF's guide vocal for it with his own lyrics?
There's at least an album's worth of 2.0 era songs that don't appear to have been released (unless reworked into ones we have seen). Alice Prin and other pre-Indie Cindy demos, Down in Toulon, Super Lecker (played live at one or two shows)... |
| billgoodman |
Posted - 03/24/2024 : 19:53:00
Bland, yes
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| Bedbug |
Posted - 03/24/2024 : 18:04:51
quote:
Originally posted by Troubles A Foot
quote:
Originally posted by billgoodman
Still like the song, the lyrics could have been better
For all the talk about what Pixies are and what they are not, can we at least all agree that incredibly bland, uninteresting, not evocative lyrics like Hear Me Out are definitely what they are not?
Forgot about that song. Yes, lyrics sound worse than first generation AI attempt at songwriting |
