| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| Dave Noisy |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 15:16:45
Hi all, this box will be updated and serve as a FAQ for easy reference.
Quick note:
* No more threads on forum-specific topics. Post your questions here.
* Brian or myself will lock all current forum-related threads, and refer them to this one.
So: What's Going On
I've been rather absent, and a few days ago i popped in, and noticed the 'Pictures of Beautiful Women' thread was huge (42 pages, 22k+ hits), and then there was a visit from a pedophile.
I found this shocking. I was never happy with the thread to begin with. I'd hoped when i first saw it, several months ago, that it would have faded away....unfortunately it continued.
I deleted this thread, and began this one:
http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13490
You're welcome to follow the thread, read what ensued. Mine opinion was that many people were being abusive and disrespectful, took things much too personally, and i felt i needed to take further action.
On to the FAQ:
* Why did you delete the thread?
I feel it was inappropriate, objectifying, disrespectful of women as people, and encouraging a wholly unhealthy attitude towards women.
* What business of yours is this?
Since i am ultimately responsible for the Forum, and the content, i need to lay down rules when i feel it's necessary.
* Why didn't you just lock it?
I do not want it, nor the consequences of such a thread impacting the future of the site, me, or Frank Black. Ultimately, anything that happens in the Forum trickles down to me, and is my responsiblity. If a thread is drawing pedophiles and making women (and men) uncomfortable, something needs to be done.
* Why now, and not six months ago?
I hoped the thread would have faded away..but it continued. I seem to recall that i might have posted something at some point, but i'm not sure. My bad.
* What about Floop?
After i requested that no more pictures and comments of women be posted, he posted another one. I requested he remove it, or i would lock his account (and anyone else.) He played dumb. I locked his account for a week.
* What about the images?
I've taken a temporary measure, both to get people's attention, and to impart the fact that posting images is a priviledge, and that with priviledges come responsibility.
I've started an opportunity to discuss this, and how we can come to a consensus, where my wishes for the Forum are respected, and the rules of posting are clarified and agreed upon. (Sorry for my delay in getting back there. Refer to here now.)
In the meantime, by preventing images from being displayed, i've made it that much more difficult for those who wish to be 'rebellious'. I do not wish to babysit, and will take these, and further measures, to ensure this.
* So what is the new rule?
No threads dedicated to 'beautiful women', or other such potentially demeaning topics. Successive postings (in any thread) of this nature will also be deemed inappropriate.
That said, on-topic discussion and pictures are fine. As an example, if a thread on a movie starts, with an image or two, comments are welcome, as long as they are respectful. If this leads to an abundance of images posted of the leading actress in skimpy outfits, then clearly it has gone too far.
Ultimately, the level of what's considered 'too much' is up to the Mods, and their decision should be treated respectfully. Insulting outbursts may lead to having your account locked.
* [Female Handle] is a "chick" and says she didn't mind the thread, so it's okay, isn't it?
As we've seen, with the backlash against myself, those who speak out against certain issues are punished quite furiously by the masses.
As such, you won't see many women (or men) speaking out, dispite their feelings.
To me, this is very problematic and troublesome, and serves to underscore how serious this issue truly is. (And yes, i have received private message from women on here indicating this. Men as well.)
Frankly, if a woman (or man) wishes to allow themselves to be objectified, that's their agenda. It's not appropriate to assume every other woman (or man) feels the same way.
* What if i want to log in with a different account and post messages in every thread? Or what if i want to call you names?
Your account will be locked. Possibly indefinitely. Best not to 'test' me, or other moderators.
Reminder of a previous rule: secondary accounts are NOT allowed. If you're found using a second account, it will be locked permanently, as well as your main account. (Possibly for a temporary amount of time.) If your account has been locked, and you wish to rectify this, please contact me privately. (ie, use the FB.net contact form.)
* You're killing the Forums!
Not likely. If people are going to leave because they can't objectify women, that's fine by me.
* Who are you?
I'm the guy that hosts the site on my server. I make sure it runs. I also set up the Forum, and did a lot of the design (thanks to many others, including Jim) and set-up most of the sections on the main site.
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These are the main questions i've seen, feel free to post other items below. If it's FAQ-worthy, i'll post it here, otherwise i'll respond below.
Please do not post non-issue points, like 'where's Dave'.
Cheers,
- Dave |
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| Fartbone |
Posted - 01/17/2006 : 09:17:13
I think I'll start a thread about titties
Horale Cabrones |
| chineselover |
Posted - 12/04/2005 : 06:25:16
Well I would have to agree with last poster - I read this thread a few months back - def his prerogative to stop it, but without the advice, people appreciate the physical and the mental in people, the thread happened to be about the physical, get over it! |
| anazgnos |
Posted - 12/03/2005 : 17:03:35
Wow, I couldn't be more glad to have dropped out of regular particpation on this board, reading through this thread. Sure, MAYBE the thread got out of hand (I wouldn't know, I never read or posted in it), and yes, of course, Dave is responsible for the content of the board and if he wants to draw a line that's his prerogative... but the heaps of haughty, pious judgement in his first post in this thread reek from a mile away. That's all I have to say. I always suspected D.N. was a sanctimonious lefty* zealot, and now I know.
*usage of this term does not imply that I am a right-winger |
| WrongtimeCapsule |
Posted - 09/10/2005 : 00:38:38
entertainment!
*blinking lights* |
| OldManInaCoffeeCan |
Posted - 09/01/2005 : 20:49:06
quote:
Originally posted by new_floop
quote:
Originally posted by One Who Hath Swum
I find Dave Noisy and Dean to be upstanding indviduals and I am sure that whatever they decided for the forum was in the forum's best interest.
i'm glad to see the reconditioning process is working for you as well
HA! 
That reminds of a Frank song:
"My brain got washed
What I’ve got to debunk
So I got another bad
And I threw it in the trunk"
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I joined the noisy cult of six-sixty-six when I somehow agreed to the Registration Policy |
| Carl |
Posted - 08/30/2005 : 16:50:53
What's Goin' On?-Marvin Gaye. |
| new_floop |
Posted - 08/30/2005 : 15:12:19
quote:
Originally posted by One Who Hath Swum
I find Dave Noisy and Dean to be upstanding indviduals and I am sure that whatever they decided for the forum was in the forum's best interest.
i'm glad to see the reconditioning process is working for you as well |
| Erebus |
Posted - 08/30/2005 : 14:25:48
Who let this guy back at this forum? Get thee back to pixiesmusic diseased one. |
| One Who Hath Swum |
Posted - 08/30/2005 : 12:25:17
I find Dave Noisy and Dean to be upstanding indviduals and I am sure that whatever they decided for the forum was in the forum's best interest.
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http://www.fournineproductions.com/musicpage.html I joined the cult of me. |
| Homers_pet_monkey |
Posted - 08/30/2005 : 03:18:42
quote:
Originally posted by Stuart
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
COF is coming up behind you with a wicked clops.
I refrained from getting involved and continue to do so, but I will also say that Dave tries to run a board with over 5000 members that is maybe a little above the standard fare for internet forums, as do Brian and I, and it can be difficult, mistakes can be made, and, given that none of us has been created in robot form yet, we're human and bound to a little emotion from time to time much as we try to avoid it, which can be harder than you might think. We all do what we think's best, we're all liable to the occasional overreaction, and we're all friends here, give or take, so let's cut each other some slack and let this thread finally die. I hope things are back to normal for everyone and if there's anything preventing it, I'd love an email, seriously. It's hard to manage things from here where I'm basically paying to volunteer thanks to overpriced internet cafes, but I try my best and thank goodness for Brian and Dave and everyone else that chimes in with suggestions, emails, news, and help (I think Tre deserves special mention for her ongoing DB effort). And of course thanks to everyone who's cared enough to write their opinions here and who care enough for what we try to make of this forum to keep things civilized even when angry.
-Dean
Incidentally Stu, I may be popping in on China in the winter, up in the air still. Recommendations? Send me an email.
 "Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened"
Cool COF, no worries mate... I'd love to meet up with you,
This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate!
Creep. He was a wanker the other day.
 I'd walk her everyday, into a shady place
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| Stuart |
Posted - 08/21/2005 : 21:26:36
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
COF is coming up behind you with a wicked clops.
I refrained from getting involved and continue to do so, but I will also say that Dave tries to run a board with over 5000 members that is maybe a little above the standard fare for internet forums, as do Brian and I, and it can be difficult, mistakes can be made, and, given that none of us has been created in robot form yet, we're human and bound to a little emotion from time to time much as we try to avoid it, which can be harder than you might think. We all do what we think's best, we're all liable to the occasional overreaction, and we're all friends here, give or take, so let's cut each other some slack and let this thread finally die. I hope things are back to normal for everyone and if there's anything preventing it, I'd love an email, seriously. It's hard to manage things from here where I'm basically paying to volunteer thanks to overpriced internet cafes, but I try my best and thank goodness for Brian and Dave and everyone else that chimes in with suggestions, emails, news, and help (I think Tre deserves special mention for her ongoing DB effort). And of course thanks to everyone who's cared enough to write their opinions here and who care enough for what we try to make of this forum to keep things civilized even when angry.
-Dean
Incidentally Stu, I may be popping in on China in the winter, up in the air still. Recommendations? Send me an email.
"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened"
Cool COF, no worries mate... I'd love to meet up with you, especially after you have laid down the gauntlet Clops-wise. Realmotor is out here too, but I have been lame in meeting him... should give him a bell really.
I'll drop you an email later mate.
This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate! |
| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 08/21/2005 : 12:13:18
COF is coming up behind you with a wicked clops.
I refrained from getting involved and continue to do so, but I will also say that Dave tries to run a board with over 5000 members that is maybe a little above the standard fare for internet forums, as do Brian and I, and it can be difficult, mistakes can be made, and, given that none of us has been created in robot form yet, we're human and bound to a little emotion from time to time much as we try to avoid it, which can be harder than you might think. We all do what we think's best, we're all liable to the occasional overreaction, and we're all friends here, give or take, so let's cut each other some slack and let this thread finally die. I hope things are back to normal for everyone and if there's anything preventing it, I'd love an email, seriously. It's hard to manage things from here where I'm basically paying to volunteer thanks to overpriced internet cafes, but I try my best and thank goodness for Brian and Dave and everyone else that chimes in with suggestions, emails, news, and help (I think Tre deserves special mention for her ongoing DB effort). And of course thanks to everyone who's cared enough to write their opinions here and who care enough for what we try to make of this forum to keep things civilized even when angry.
-Dean
Incidentally Stu, I may be popping in on China in the winter, up in the air still. Recommendations? Send me an email.
"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened" |
| Stuart |
Posted - 08/19/2005 : 21:38:52
quote:
Originally posted by Atheist4Catholics
blah blah blah
you people should be glad they even have a general topic section. This is the Frank Black forum not the "let's look at boobies" forum or the "what's you favorite ___" forum. Frankly, I wouldn't be the least bit sad if it disappeared entirely except I'd feel bad for the moderators having to spend the rest of their days trying to lock and delete general comments from the rest of the forum.
What ever happened to talking about Frank Black?
Give Dave a break. He has to draw the line somewhere. I think it's more than reasonable where he's drawn it.
Will I ever reach 1000?
For more information on rock, visit www.timfranklin.net
I missed all this shit so I am not going to throw in my two cents about whats been going on... strange that Dave has been getting loads of shit though as he's always struck me as a decent chap.
I have to say though I actually come here more for the general discussion than FB stuff. At first I came here to get info on Frank but the discussion forum is what really keeps things interesting inbetween news updates. Would you really prefer this site without General Chat? It would make things pretty boring as inbetween news you'd get 1000 times more 'Frank Black is the saviour of the world' type threads... Plus there is only so much you can talk about Frank.
I like this site and therefore I have to give credit to Dave... That COF though is a wanker.... just kidding, where is COF / El Barto nowadays?
This is a high class bureau de change, not some Punch & Judy show on the seafront at Margate! |
| floop |
Posted - 08/19/2005 : 18:22:29
quote:
Originally posted by IceCream
Dave answered plenty of questions.
yet left many unanswered |
| VoVat |
Posted - 08/19/2005 : 13:28:16
quote:
This is a honeycomb and we are the children of the beehive!
And Dave is the Queen? :P
I was all out of luck, like a duck that died. I was all out of juice, like a moose denied. |
| IceCream |
Posted - 08/03/2005 : 21:57:37
Dave answered plenty of questions. |
| OldManInaCoffeeCan |
Posted - 08/03/2005 : 17:53:45
quote:
Originally posted by Monsieur
Dave Noisy is like the God.
He destroys a thread, wreaks havoc, and doesn't answer any questions.
I will show you fear in a handful of dust
Damn, that's funny,...and accurate.
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I joined the noisy cult of six-sixty-six when I somehow agreed to the Registration Policy |
| Monsieur |
Posted - 08/03/2005 : 04:23:01
Dave Noisy is like the God.
He destroys a thread, wreaks havoc, and doesn't answer any questions.
I will show you fear in a handful of dust |
| Monsieur |
Posted - 08/03/2005 : 04:21:29
quote:
Originally posted by Atheist4Catholics
blah blah blah
you people should be glad they even have a general topic section. This is the Frank Black forum not the "let's look at boobies" forum or the "what's you favorite ___" forum. Frankly, I wouldn't be the least bit sad if it disappeared entirely except I'd feel bad for the moderators having to spend the rest of their days trying to lock and delete general comments from the rest of the forum.
What ever happened to talking about Frank Black?
Give Dave a break. He has to draw the line somewhere. I think it's more than reasonable where he's drawn it.
Will I ever reach 1000?
For more information on rock, visit www.timfranklin.net
We are talking about a specific thread in a specific section.
I don't see why the existence of the general discussion board bothers you. If you're not interested, do something else, don't read it.
I don't like ballet very much. But I have nothing against ballet dancers.
I will show you fear in a handful of dust |
| Atheist4Catholics |
Posted - 07/18/2005 : 20:15:25
Just because I don't post a lot doesn't mean I'm not paying attention.
Will I ever reach 1000?
For more information on rock, visit www.timfranklin.net |
| danjersey |
Posted - 07/18/2005 : 19:59:47
floop?............. Floop?............what are you doing FlOOP?........ this is Highly Irregular.
"now you understand the oriental passion for tea" |
| floop |
Posted - 07/18/2005 : 19:08:00
quote:
Originally posted by Atheist4Catholics
What the hell are you talking about?
um, i'm refering to the topic of this thread.. the 'what's been going on' thing. from my point of view, the whole thing has been twisted and turned into "people are just pissed and whining that they can't post pictures of women" (as you've suggested), when that's never been the issue, for me. just wanted to clarify that.
i know this topic is boring now and i don't really care that much any more either, but i never got a chance to put in my 2 cents like every one else did, so.. there you go.
now we can go back to kissing Dave Noisy's ass |
| darwin |
Posted - 07/18/2005 : 13:22:34
I'm guessing that floop isn't refering to Atheist. Or, is that already obvious? |
| Broken Face |
Posted - 07/18/2005 : 13:13:49
hey guys, let's calm this down: i understand a lot of us don't agree, but really, this is a small point. i hope we can just put this shit behind us and start enjoying ourselves again.
i probably sound like a dick, but i'm just trying to be a peacemaker
-Brian
If you move I shoots!
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| dayanara |
Posted - 07/18/2005 : 13:07:57
what the hell are YOU talking about, atheist? were you actually around when this went down or are you just throwing your two cents in without having a clue?
i am sitting here observing my emotional discomfort. |
| Atheist4Catholics |
Posted - 07/18/2005 : 09:40:52
What the hell are you talking about?
Will I ever reach 1000?
For more information on rock, visit www.timfranklin.net |
| floop |
Posted - 07/18/2005 : 08:27:58
quote:
Originally posted by Atheist4Catholics
Maybe I can ask the nice people at letschataboutboobies.net about driving across the US...
i'd like to clarify that, from my perspective, this was never an issue of "i want to look at pictures of boobies" but more of an issue of "why are you such an asshole?" |
| Carl |
Posted - 07/17/2005 : 17:30:34
Yeah, I bought a rare stamp toda..whoops, wrong thread!! ;) |
| darwin |
Posted - 07/16/2005 : 23:17:01
Hey, I don't want to fight. I've always enjoyed your posts and enjoyed the music that you posted, but I've grown tired of people telling others how to behave or feel and I thought it was hypocritical of you to dismiss the General Chat section ("wouldn't be the least bit sad if it disappeared entirely") when you've posted (even today) subjects unrelated to Frank Black in that section. |
| Atheist4Catholics |
Posted - 07/16/2005 : 22:02:04
ooohhh Darwin. What a comeback.
I would gladly post my general thoughts somewhere else if it meant being able to hang out here without having to hear a lot of self-important people whine and complain all day long about the forum.
Maybe I can ask the nice people at letschataboutboobies.net about driving across the US...
Will I ever reach 1000?
For more information on rock, visit www.timfranklin.net |
| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 07/16/2005 : 20:18:57
Hey guys, I'm back (sort of), did I miss anything? :) Yikes!
"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened" |
| darwin |
Posted - 07/16/2005 : 19:35:18
quote:
Originally posted by Atheist4Catholics
blah blah blah
you people should be glad they even have a general topic section. This is the Frank Black forum not the "let's look at boobies" forum or the "what's you favorite ___" forum. Frankly, I wouldn't be the least bit sad if it disappeared entirely except I'd feel bad for the moderators having to spend the rest of their days trying to lock and delete general comments from the rest of the forum.
What ever happened to talking about Frank Black?
http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13375 |
| Atheist4Catholics |
Posted - 07/16/2005 : 17:55:09
blah blah blah
you people should be glad they even have a general topic section. This is the Frank Black forum not the "let's look at boobies" forum or the "what's you favorite ___" forum. Frankly, I wouldn't be the least bit sad if it disappeared entirely except I'd feel bad for the moderators having to spend the rest of their days trying to lock and delete general comments from the rest of the forum.
What ever happened to talking about Frank Black?
Give Dave a break. He has to draw the line somewhere. I think it's more than reasonable where he's drawn it.
Will I ever reach 1000?
For more information on rock, visit www.timfranklin.net |
| floop |
Posted - 07/15/2005 : 18:22:28
So you're not going to answer my question? |
| Dave Noisy |
Posted - 07/15/2005 : 14:13:03
I am confusing.
 "Live life like you're gonna die...because you are." - William Shatner, You'll Have Time / Has Been |
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