| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| starmekitten |
Posted - 05/31/2005 : 14:32:38
He wants an altered state
Inside the mansion walls
She says she’d rather wait
Yeah, for evening to fall
But still the cap they ate
And with a drink they chased
The ghost that called
They went to celebrate
They went to have a ball
Everyone gathered at the gates
But it wasn’t good at all
The sky was turning grey
They laughed a their mistake
As their skin began to crawl
Hey, but it’s too late for to go back now
They closed the gates and the scene was set
Enter into His Kingly Cave
Don’t worry the leopards won’t bite you
Wipe that big tear away
See they got jumpsuits on the headless cast
Polished jewels under two inch glass
And bullet holes in Vernon’s room out back
Don’t worry the posse won’t shoot you
No more crying today
He’s tripping over graves
As the rain begins to fall
And finally they escape
When the shuttle bus is called
The mourners now abate
As one begins to say
I scream I scream for all
Hey, but it's too late for to go back now
They closed the gates and the scene was set
Enter into His Kingly Cave
Don’t worry the leopards won’t bite you
Wipe that big tear away
See they got jumpsuits on the headless cast
Polished jewels under two inch glass
And bullet holes in Vernon’s room out back
Don’t worry the posse won’t shoot you
No more crying today
He wants an altered state
Inside the mansion walls
She says she’d rather wait
Yeah, for evening to fall
But still the cap they ate
And with a drink they chased
The ghost that called
Quotes:
"[His Kingly Cave] is about Graceland. It's about a trip that I took to Graceland many years ago. I thought it would be fun to take hallucinogenic mushrooms while I was there. I was much younger than I am now. It's not something I would really do now. I was young and dumb and I went to Graceland with my girlfriend and we took mushrooms and it was a horrible and tense day. That's a telling of that day in that story."
- Frank Black, Free Williamsburg, November 2002
This is what we have already, more as always is welcome!
sorry for slacking, exams and stuff you know how it is..
I hope that I will live to see you undress |
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| fbc |
Posted - 06/05/2005 : 15:45:51
quote:
should be clarified? like caps reffering to mushrooms?
yeah the quote we already have in the db sums up fb's drug of choice on this day, but the mention of 'cap' is an obvious reference to 'shrooms.
So i say this should be included too. Away from the quote, the lyric points to frank tripping on the shroom of the mush rather than acid
"No matter how shitty things get, you just have to do a little dance." |
| starmekitten |
Posted - 06/05/2005 : 14:47:18
Great pics oldman---coffeecan, and thanks for digging up the links Mr Ten Percenter. Noted on the Vernon Dean and as soon as I'm done with this endless pile of COSHH forms (middle of next week) I'll update to where we are. I didn't find anything new on google for this, quotes wise. But big props to transmarine for givng us that article bit!
So are there any references within the song other than Elvis's pa we think should be clarified? like caps reffering to mushrooms? Jumpsuits of elvis etc etc? Or do we think the quote already in the db takes care of that?
(and I read all those things on that poll once, Dean is one mean so and so)
I hope that I will live to see you undress |
| OldManInaCoffeeCan |
Posted - 06/04/2005 : 19:55:16
Yeah, she's pretty fuckin hot, she still rocks my world, and about every other full moon or so, she'll bust those bad boys out and [edit: oops...bye/OMIACC] |
| kathryn |
Posted - 06/04/2005 : 19:09:26
Good god, OldMan! Are those white thigh-high boots the missus is
wearing, or are my eyes deceiving me?
 I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
| OldManInaCoffeeCan |
Posted - 06/04/2005 : 18:31:52
Nothing for the database, but thought you may want to see these, [circa 1993]
Mr. and Mrs. CoffeeCan at Graceland
Mrs. CoffeeCan poolside at Graceland (She looks a little like Prisicilla here doesn't she...)
May the King, or whoever is buried here, rest in peace
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| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 06/03/2005 : 13:45:42
Yeah, definitely that poll. Reading it now still makes me chortle aloud in the internet cafe, drawing annoyed glances and aroused stares all the while. Thanks for the link dig, Andy! It must be your turn to be sick for you to have all that time. :P
Glad ya liked it Rita. It was just a fun little experiment...
"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened" |
| Ten Percenter |
Posted - 06/02/2005 : 06:06:10
Some previous threads from the archives might be of interest:
http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=206
http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=512
http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=560
What else? I'm sure it was confirmed that Joey Santiago played on this track.
And Rita, I think CofF might be referring to this poll - you have to scroll down to see the comments:
http://www.bestandworst.com/pages/vote/vote-205.html
"Fried food, cigarettes, no exercise, chest pain..." (Excerpt from the Angina Monologues) |
| n/a |
Posted - 06/02/2005 : 05:42:31
Dean, just listened to it today, there's no way to escape now... and it's a very nice cover.
What should I ask Andy?
(Sorry to be posting without adding anything to the topic in subject)
Talking like a damn builder |
| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 06/02/2005 : 05:03:30
Rita, you probably are better off not having heard it! Ask Andy (Ten Percenter). :)
"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened" |
| starmekitten |
Posted - 06/01/2005 : 14:24:08
transmarine you superstar!
you guys!
you so good to the db threads!
mmm fried bacon
I hope that I will live to see you undress |
| fbc |
Posted - 06/01/2005 : 13:25:49
all i need is a fall to floor on, no mattress for me
some of my best night sleeps were spent passed out on the lawn
(or a floor to fall on. whichever comes first)
it all looks beautiful to me
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| kathryn |
Posted - 06/01/2005 : 13:05:17
quote:
Originally posted by OldManInaCoffeeCan
while Kathryn and Surfer Rosa are trying to work out the logistics for a trip to Nashville and Memphis, the mind-expanding substances are for fbc and myself. I didn't want to mislead anyone or tarnish the reputations of these two fine ladies]
What kind of a host are you gonna be, Richard? You and FBC are gonna have to do
some sharing, if you know what I mean.
Nice additions to the db, though.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Catholics |
| n/a |
Posted - 06/01/2005 : 13:00:32
quote:
Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
quote:
Originally posted by Carolynanna
All I can think of is Dean and Mike's cover :)
__________
This is the war and not the warning.
Heh, I can only assume that's glowing praise...
"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened"
And I need to listen to that 
I love this song, it's my favourite in the whole album.
I could be wrong
I could be right
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| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 06/01/2005 : 12:54:14
quote:
Originally posted by Carolynanna
All I can think of is Dean and Mike's cover :)
__________
This is the war and not the warning.
Heh, I can only assume that's glowing praise...
"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened" |
| TRANSMARINE |
Posted - 06/01/2005 : 12:39:12
Okay...sorry it took me so long to post...I couldn't access the site all day until just now. I believe this will shed some further light on the whole 'Graceland' idea as related to 'His Kingly Cave'.
This is from BAM MAGAZINE (as opposed to my mistaken magazine title in yesterdays post)...a free Southern California magazine which covers the world of pop music weekly.
The date is AUGUST 28, 1998. It is just after the release of FRANK BLACK AND THE CATHOLICS, just 4 months before PISTOLERO.
BM - So as a huge, true fan of rock, would you do some-
thing like visit Jim Morrison's grave site in Paris?
FB - If I had the time. My brother and my girlfriend, we were there once, and they went over one afternoon. I freaked out at Elvis' grave, actually. I was on mushrooms at the time.
Someone had given them to me and I was like, "Come on, honey,
let's take these and go see Elvis' grave." This is like nine
years ago. She was like, "No that's not the thing to do."
But we did it. We started to trip inside this really
claustrophobic tour where all these people were sobbing
their brains out; I don't know if it was the anniversary of
his birth or death. Then you're in like this garage in the
back-"This is where they used to shoot off guns." Then, at
the end, people are really crying, and all of a sudden,
[making the Psycho shower noise] there it is,
at my feet, the damn grave! I forgot he was there, and his
mother and his twin brother, you know? It was really morbid.
So anyway, I didn't go to see Jim Morrison's grave.
So there you have it folks. A lot of things in HKC that can all-too easily be associated with Graceland and his trippy experience there. Altered states, mansion walls, she says she better wait, but still the cap they ate, everyone gathered at the gates, their skin began to crawl, wipe that big tear away, jumpsuits on the headless cast, bullet holes in Vernon's room out back, He's tripping over graves, etc. Pretty cool, eh?
Even though the facts are pretty concrete, I still picture the song about a video game for some reason a' la Tomb Raider or Resident Evil. Whatever.
I was alone...in my BIG BED
-bRIAN |
| Carolynanna |
Posted - 06/01/2005 : 08:45:23
All I can think of is Dean and Mike's cover :)
__________
This is the war and not the warning. |
| OldManInaCoffeeCan |
Posted - 06/01/2005 : 07:19:37
Oh baby, no, no, no, I'm your Hostest with the Mostest, I just didn't want to assume anything. By the way, the Kentucky Blue Grass should be excellent again this year...[bye/OMIACC]
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| Surfer Rosa |
Posted - 06/01/2005 : 06:30:15
quote:
Originally posted by OldManInaCoffeeCan
Edit:
[oops, my bad, while Kathryn and Surfer Rosa are trying to work out the logistics for a trip to Nashville and Memphis, the mind-expanding substances are for fbc and myself. I didn't want to mislead anyone or tarnish the reputations of these two fine ladies]
I'm hurt Oldman, so you're telling me I will have to pack my own then? |
| OldManInaCoffeeCan |
Posted - 06/01/2005 : 05:55:37
Hey Tre, thanks for doing this db update!
fbc posted something in the Joshua & Rich Mercy Lounge thread about me getting us some mind-expanding substances for Surfer Rosa, Kathryn, fbc, and myself for their visit to Nashville and then Memphis to see Graceland, and that brought on some vivid flashbacks from my visit to Graceland many years ago (1979, high school graduation present from my girlfriend), so, I hope you don't mind but I've copied and pasted my original post:
What a great pun by The Man, "trippin over graves", of course you have the psychedelic trippin and then the stumbling/trippin over Elvis' grave because the marble encasement of the grave sticks up a few inches above the ground and it is very easy to trip over it [they have since erected a short (2-3 feet) wrought iron fence around the graves, I assume to keep people from trippin over them]...Graceland is fucking awesome, and Frank nailed some of the sights there when he sings:
"See they got jumpsuits on the headless cast" (many of The King's famous rhinestone jumpsuits are displayed on headless mannequins)
"Polished jewels under two inch glass" (there is a small building in The King's compound where you walk through and view jewelry and other valuables encased in security glass)
"And bullet holes in Vernon’s room out back" (Uncle Vernon had his own room in a building behind the big house, and Elvis and his Posse were fond of shooting their guns back there)
"Don’t worry the posse won’t shoot you" (unless they had a little too much to drink during target practice and missed the target)
Something else I notice on my visit inside Graceland, as I left the downstairs "jungle room" with its leopards and wall to wall and ceiling to ceiling carpet, and I ascended up the stairs to the kitchen, there was a strong, lingering smell of fried bacon captured and forever preserved in the stairway and kitchen. You know, The King consumed copious amounts of fried bacon and other delicacies, including fried peanut butter and banana sandwiches, around the clock.
Edit:
[oops, my bad, while Kathryn and Surfer Rosa are trying to work out the logistics for a trip to Nashville and Memphis, the mind-expanding substances are for fbc and myself. I didn't want to mislead anyone or tarnish the reputations of these two fine ladies]
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| lonely persuader |
Posted - 06/01/2005 : 05:48:45
tomfoolery, shenanigans, roughhousing |
| Cult_Of_Frank |
Posted - 06/01/2005 : 03:19:36
Thanks for keeping this going, Tre! Despite their tomfoolery, I think it might be worth mentioning who Vernon is to those not steeped in Elvis lore.
"Join the Cult of Frank / And you'll be enlightened" |
| lonely persuader |
Posted - 06/01/2005 : 03:05:30
Are you for real TRANSMARINE ????
i agree with the holiday son guy |
| Monsieur |
Posted - 06/01/2005 : 00:20:24
I always thought it was a song about Batman and Robin.
I will show you fear in a handful of dust |
| TRANSMARINE |
Posted - 05/31/2005 : 15:33:09
quote:
Originally posted by Frog in the Sand
Not sure, but I think HKC is about a trip that Frank took to Graceland many years ago. He thought it would be fun to take hallucinogenic mushrooms while he was there. He was much younger than he is now. It's not something he would really do now. He was young and dumb and he went to Graceland with his girlfriend and they took mushrooms and it was a horrible and tense day. I'd say that's a telling of that day in that story.
When will Frank find Lyle, Nick and Eric Drew again?
This is correct, Frog. I have an interview in Mean Street magazine from 1998 where he tells this story in depth. I will have to find it once I get home and then post it here.
I was alone...in my BIG BED
-bRIAN |
| The Holiday Son |
Posted - 05/31/2005 : 15:32:52
I award froggy with the best post of the week and the best signature of the year. |
| Frog in the Sand |
Posted - 05/31/2005 : 14:57:09
Not sure, but I think HKC is about a trip that Frank took to Graceland many years ago. He thought it would be fun to take hallucinogenic mushrooms while he was there. He was much younger than he is now. It's not something he would really do now. He was young and dumb and he went to Graceland with his girlfriend and they took mushrooms and it was a horrible and tense day. I'd say that's a telling of that day in that story.
When will Frank find Lyle, Nick and Eric Drew again? |
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