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Discoking
= Cult of Ray =

Belgium
876 Posts

Posted - 05/29/2020 :  04:42:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
these posts about Frank Black-o-Rama are in the wrong place!
they *are* worth a topic.


it's educational
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *

1369 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2020 :  07:00:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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There's stuff on both those initial solo albums that wouldn't fit the Pixies mould. It wasn't like the more recent 'no Kim' nonsense, it was very much 'this is a very different, less extreme thing' and there was an awful lot of 'this isn't as good as Pixies' at the time, especially after that Reading show which was the first major solo gig I can remember. I loved that gig but do remember people muttering about it afterwards. That didn't happen when Trompe came out, it was more like 'Oh good, more Pixies'.



I love reading accounts from way back like this. I've don't think I've never read anyone talk about the Reading set. That's very interesting to me. I WISH that I had memories like that to share. My accounts of seeing Frank Black live don't start until 1996!

And thank you, Discoking. Maybe I'll start a new topic for these articles with the next one. Probably on the main Frank Black forum here, since FRANK BLACK is where we're going next...
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Bedbug
* Dog in the Sand *

2184 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2020 :  07:15:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jason

quote:

There's stuff on both those initial solo albums that wouldn't fit the Pixies mould. It wasn't like the more recent 'no Kim' nonsense, it was very much 'this is a very different, less extreme thing' and there was an awful lot of 'this isn't as good as Pixies' at the time, especially after that Reading show which was the first major solo gig I can remember. I loved that gig but do remember people muttering about it afterwards. That didn't happen when Trompe came out, it was more like 'Oh good, more Pixies'.



I love reading accounts from way back like this. I've don't think I've never read anyone talk about the Reading set. That's very interesting to me. I WISH that I had memories like that to share. My accounts of seeing Frank Black live don't start until 1996!

And thank you, Discoking. Maybe I'll start a new topic for these articles with the next one. Probably on the main Frank Black forum here, since FRANK BLACK is where we're going next...




Yes Jason, I encourage you to start a new topic and link all your posts. These are great!
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Bedbug
* Dog in the Sand *

2184 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2020 :  07:27:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by stuczuba

Well, you can count me amongst the those never noticed the tablas until they were pointed out but I've always thought it was a logical progression from Bossa - there's nothing stylistically out of place whilst FB and TOTY are sonically very different to my ears even if some of the lyrical themes continue.

There's stuff on both those initial solo albums that wouldn't fit the Pixies mould. It wasn't like the more recent 'no Kim' nonsense, it was very much 'this is a very different, less extreme thing' and there was an awful lot of 'this isn't as good as Pixies' at the time, especially after that Reading show which was the first major solo gig I can remember. I loved that gig but do remember people muttering about it afterwards. That didn't happen when Trompe came out, it was more like 'Oh good, more Pixies'. Even leaving aside Kim's input, there's tons of Dave and Joey business all over the album that is 100% pure Pixies.

Trompe being the first solo album idea seems to be a much more recent conceit, very hindsight-driven and specific to this parish ;)



This debate never gets old for me. We should submit peer reviewed journal articles on this.

I hear your points and they are good points. As I recall, most of my friends thought TLM was good when it came out, like they did with Bossanova, but by and large everybody kept obsessing over SR and Doolittle. TLM continued the movement away from the earlier Pixies sound while still being Pixies. The solo albums, while not literally being the work of one person, continued that departure, under a new label but with some of the same partners (Joey, EDF, etc). If the fax wasn't sent in 1993 and Charles, Joey, Kim and Dave had produced a sixth album, we could assume it would have Los Angeles, Brackish Boy and other Solo tracks on it. From a time / space standpoint, Solo albums are closer to the emergence of the 1.0 sound, a year or two removed as opposed to twenty plus years away. If you could go back in time and remove TLM from the 1.0 canon and replace it with IC, would we think of IC as pure 1.0?
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Bedbug
* Dog in the Sand *

2184 Posts

Posted - 06/05/2020 :  10:08:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks like Ready For Love has an official video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qkUKAbdsNY
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tamefan
- FB Fan -

Canada
83 Posts

Posted - 06/06/2020 :  18:53:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Reading thru the YouTube comments on the demos for the first time. I'm happy that everyone's happy with these songs. Hope the band glance at the YT comments sometime, I bet they'd warm their hearts.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <

Iceland
3106 Posts

Posted - 06/18/2020 :  14:52:35  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Since faceapping gender swapping is all the rage these days I thought I'd knock up a quick one for the Pixies. What the Pixies might have looked like if they'd all been chicks. I think Joey looks kinda cute?


Edited by - pot on 06/18/2020 14:54:41
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stuczuba
= Cult of Ray =

376 Posts

Posted - 06/18/2020 :  17:34:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dave looks very high-maintenance..
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <

Iceland
3106 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2020 :  02:54:19  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stuczuba

Dave looks very high-maintenance..



Defo had the painters in when that photo was taken for sure..
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Bedbug
* Dog in the Sand *

2184 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2020 :  10:24:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I first heard them that's what I often thought Black Francis looked like. Was surprised to find out the lead singer was not also a Mrs.
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pot
> Teenager of the Year <

Iceland
3106 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2020 :  13:26:24  Show Profile  Visit pot's Homepage  Reply with Quote
There really ought to be an actual Pixies tribute band featuring 4 females called the Pixie Chicks
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