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Sir Rockabye
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 09/27/2004 :  18:22:40  Show Profile  Visit Sir Rockabye's Homepage  Reply with Quote
So, since school has started again, I've been in this funk for the past few weeks. I usually am one of the few kids who enjoy school, but after ten odd years, it just seems pointless. I want to enrich myself, better myself, but school can't really provide me with that anymore. Instead, it’s just monotonous. It seems that every single day of the last month has been identical. I attend school. Come home, study, go to sleep, repeat. I need something important in my life. Even if it isn't important, I need something different. Sometimes I wish even something bad might happen, you know, just to make a difference. Nothing tragic of course, but maybe something that might take my mind off of school. Then there’s that whole pressure situation of picking colleges. Every adult I meet nowadays has to ask me where I want to attend, or what I want to study. How should I know? I'm still just this kid. Kids don't go to college. College is reserved for people on TV and in movies. On one hand, I want to get out of high school as quickly as I can, but on the other, I'm scared of becoming this older person with responsibilities and stuff. All of my teachers make a point of telling me that all of my decisions today will affect my future. That makes me nervous. Is the chemistry test I fail tomorrow going to impact my future? Anyway, seeing as how most of you FB.netters are all graduated, at least from high school, I was hoping maybe you could give me some insight. Maybe you felt like I do in high school. Maybe just some reassuring thoughts would help me out. Thanks.


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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2004 :  18:42:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am sorry about what you are going through. I think grownups put high schoolers under pressure with their questions without even knowing it. I am sure you will pick the right college for you and even if you don't, you can always transfer. And yes, high school can be boring.

What worked for me was spending plenty of time with my friends. Every Friday there was an all ages show and we would go and hang out. We would always try to see all the all ages concerts we could too. (I ate crackers which were free at lunch so I could save up for the shows and all the music-- but I don't reccomend that.) Music helped me through high school.

Also, I volunteered a lot. That way I got to help people but also get experience in the field I was looking at. I even got a college scholarship because of it!

If you haven't already, you could also talk to your guidance counselor and she if she has any ideas of cool classes you might want to take. I took photography and started in an alternative learning program where instead of class, we volunteered every Friday and it was cool.

Edited by - Daisy Girl on 09/27/2004 18:44:29
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -

USA
1728 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2004 :  18:46:20  Show Profile  Visit TheCroutonFuton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sir Rockabye, go to the IRC chat, we can catch up or something, perhaps.

I'd add more but what I have to say isn't encouraging in the least...similar to how you feel...yes, yes...

"Freedom is a state of mind and the condition and position of your ass. Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Funkadelic
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Sir Rockabye
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1158 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2004 :  18:58:21  Show Profile  Visit Sir Rockabye's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the advice Daisy. For me as well, music is one of the things that gets me through the day. Whether it be putting on a CD that just makes me happy, or having band practice, or even just fantasizing about seeing the Pixies in December, music makes my days happier. I actually, have been taking photo for the past two years, and I must say that its another great way to get my mind off the pressures of school. I'm actually going to pursue your suggestion of Volunteer work. It had never really occurred to me before. My schools got plenty of groups, like Habitat for Humanity and Amnesty International. Maybe I'll check one of those type of things out.


Hey nuclear war and a hot bed of trouble, make with the pennance, repent on the double.
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2004 :  19:14:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is so cool that you are in a band. :) I was in a punk band for a day. The practice was at my house and my mom was like you guys need a lot more practice. And we're like no it's a punk band... and then she made me quit.... But that is cool that you have a band...


That's cool you're going to check out volunteering... and remember the good thing is if you don't like it... you can find another group or just quit all together.

High school for me was bs because of all the popular people that were so mean to me and everyone else. Some of those preps would tease me really bad-- now it would be called sexual harassament. Of course I got a lot of crap from wearing all black all the time, too. Those memories of hs really suck for me. I did like alot of my classes but I felt it was kinda a waste of time compared to what I really wanted to do. Just by having all of those things to distract you... while you still make the grades for college will hopefully make it easier.

One of the things i did was have an earth day battle of the bands... where the money at the door went to greenpiece.. that was fun and I gave this band ... their first break. They even named themselves Planet Earth because of it. I also worked to get non-sucky bands for all the dances. It was cool because some of those guys were in the same scene and we all wound up at the same college. It was a blast.

Anyway, college is a million times better than high school... so hang in there!

Edited by - Daisy Girl on 09/27/2004 19:19:56
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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1162 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2004 :  19:43:48  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote

how to survive highschool : stop being such a self-obsessed little twat.
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2004 :  19:46:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ebb, that's mean . You know personal attacks are not allowed on this forum.

Anway I think Sir Rockabye is cool and I know other people think the same.

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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1162 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2004 :  20:52:16  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote

give me a break. do i have to explain everything?

it's a joke but with a serious point. highschool is easy and the only reason kids think it's hard is because they haven't experienced anything truly difficult yet. plus some adults pander to them, possibly because they've been fortunate enough to not encounter true hardship.
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2004 :  21:00:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
no, but I am glad you did. that way I know it was not directed at a forum member. now, your comment makes more sense. thanks for explaining. what do you mean by true hardship?
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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1162 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2004 :  21:47:03  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote
yes it was directed at a forum member, it was directed at Sir Rockabye, because the idea of highschool being difficult is ridiculous.

what is true hardship? i can't believe you want me to explain this to you. how about watching someone you love die of a chronic disease like brain cancer or AIDS? how about losing your job and not being able to pay for your rent and getting kicked out and having no place to live? how about addiction? how about falling out of a long term relationship?

anyone who's gone through any of those knows that highschool is a joke. who cares what a bunch of *children* have to say? it means nothing.
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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <

3648 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2004 :  22:15:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Highschool wasn't "easy"

Growing up is painful they say

Grit your teeth and take the pain, dude

That's all I can say

I graduated in 1994, I miss those days, I miss my friends, I miss being able to do whatever I wanted to do, that freedom you have when you can answer any question with, "I am only 17." There's a lot of power there.

Fucking tough it out dude, take the pain, and don't forget what you're going through, you'll need it later in life.

Thrive.

Floops quesedillas zijn te vergelijken met het likken van fatsige Albert's aars nadat hij een fles laxeermiddel heeft leeggedronken.

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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1162 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2004 :  22:26:41  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote
high school was a joke and if you think otherwise then you are in for a rude fucking awakening.
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1764 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2004 :  22:27:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is so much wrong with your post ebb, I don't even know where to begin.

Sir Rockabye: one way to survive high school is to ignore/stand up to assholes like ebb.

High School is definitely difficult and who cares if there are more difficult things in the world? Those more difficult potentials don't make High School any easier; of course, considering them might make one feel more fortunate.

In High School I faced homelessness and long-term relationship problems as well as severe family turmoil. To make matter worse, I went to school with the biggest group of fuckheads you could ever encounter and my teachers were mostly idiots. I wasn't self absorbed; these were real problems that needed attention. High School is hard for so many reasons and telling someone that it's only going to/could get harder doesn't help them.

I'll tell you Rockabye, it gets easier in a lot of ways too. Hell, if I became homeless today I'd be better equipped to handle it. I like some of the suggestions made here. Volunteer! Do something; God knows I wasted a lot of my time.


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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1162 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2004 :  00:37:29  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote

so much wrong with my post?

oh because dealing with the "pressures" of other children's opinions is so difficult.

because doing homework is so much harder than having a real job.

because trying to be "cool" and fit in as a child is so important much more stressful than paying your bills and supporting a family.

give me a fucking break. childhood is easy, and being a teenager is a fun time if you stop being so fucking overdramatic, self-pitying and emo about the fucking thing.


please, RMMS, i am just dying to read the logic you have which shoots me down. please point out where i am so wrong.

ignore assholes like me? you wouldn't have had to ignore me, i paid no attention to anyone esle in school. because i knew what i say now, it's fucking meaningless and getting all torn up about it is a gigantic waste of time.
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remig
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1734 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2004 :  01:03:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with Ebb on this point, work at highschool wasn't that difficult, i may not have liked it much but now I'm 27, I have to work from 9 to 8, I have to deal with commitment with my girlfriend, taxes, bills, rent, buy food, cook, do your own laundry,...

Where I don't agree it's that I felt like you Sir Rockabye when I was 17. I always tend to think that people that does not have real problems (like said above)need to creat some, and mostly when you're a teenager. Everyday's problems make your head so full that you don't even have time to ask yourself about the meaning of life.
You've arrived at a point in your life where you have to make choices.
Another fact against Ebb's theory: why does suicide is more frequent for teenage people? (he might answer it's natural selection :))

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So you have no point of reference, Donny.
You're like a child that wanders INTO THE MIDDLE OF A MOVIE!
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <

Spain
2873 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2004 :  01:20:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
After my failed first year at college, I forgot to fill in my request(?) to be included the next year. I cried a lot when I realise about my mistake.

You know, I never wanted to go to college, graduate and stuff, but seems like it was the only right thing to do. "If you wanna be someone, boy, you must have a degree". I've listened it a thousand times, but it's not true.

So, I left college and started studying computer programming. I met a guy there who works on our public health care system, and after we finish our studies, he called me with an offer to work with him. Now I've got an excellent job, 35 hours a week and a great salary. And my old friends in college are still studying or trying to find a job.

I was extremely lucky, so I'm not a good example for anyone, but my story shows you how to don't care about what people says. If you want to graduate, do it, but if you failed, don't worry. The world is full of people like me. This guy called Charles Thompson is perhaps the best example.


"They're so bloody, bloody, bloody happy!!!"
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -

USA
1728 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2004 :  01:33:58  Show Profile  Visit TheCroutonFuton's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Lord knows that people you love only die of chronic diseases when you're out of high-school...

"Freedom is a state of mind and the condition and position of your ass. Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Funkadelic
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *

France
1688 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2004 :  02:56:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For the first time, I will agree with Ebb: highschool was definitely a great period for me. It pretty much depends on one's personal experience, though. You can experience death and suffering while you are in highschool.

But saying that exams make you nervous because they affect your life...everything affects your life, and some things much more than your exams. You live for yourself, so if you want to study chemistry, try not to fail the chemistry exam. Try to fix yourself some objectives and then try to attain them. You will probably fail, but you will be going somewhere.


I will show you fear in a handful of dust
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1764 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2004 :  03:10:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not going to point you to any logic, Ebb. For some people it's just common GD sense. You couldn't pay me enough to go back to High School. I mean it; not a billion dollars. It was the worst period of my life. Life IS a lot easier now and I wouldn't trade it for anything else. Sure there are problems, but you're an adult now - if anything, you're the one who sounds like a cry baby. Did you ever grow up ebb? Now's the time when you can take charge; are you doing that through message boards. You're so fucking pathetic picking on a kid looking for help. I'm glad you didn't have a hard time in High School, but a lot of people do and some schools are worse than others. I agree with other posters that nothing is the end of the world, but you just try telling yourself that when you're depressed and everything seems hopeless. You shouldn't dismiss a hardship by comparing it to something worse; it does nothing to solve the actual problem. There IS a problem with the majority of High Schools in America and saying that having AIDS is worse than going to school doesn't mean shit. Grow up Ebb. You might have had a swell time, but accept that Sir Rockabye isn't. How about you offer some constructive advice rather than your usual useless, one-view remarks?



Edited by - realmeanmotorscutor on 09/28/2004 03:11:31
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1764 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2004 :  03:13:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
and all of your posts here are a gigantic waste of time, but that doesn't stop you from posting. Come to think of it, going out of your way to be such a dick is a gigantic waste of time too . . . hmmmmmm.


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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1772 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2004 :  06:56:57  Show Profile  Visit PsychicTwin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Sir Rockabye-

Everyone here has a valid point. Yes, even Ebb, however unilateral and uncouth his manner of expressing it is.

High School is a royal pain in the ass...but its also a lot of fun (at least it was for me). You are subservient to teachers/parents/etc. but you are also more free than you'll ever be because you are young and don't have any of life's "real" concerns weighing down on your head. I say "real" because high school has its trials and tribulations just like any other part of life.
My best advice is this: college (if you go) will be far far more fun, and is actually quite a good reason to rough it through high school and try to do fairly well. Then again, remember that you won't be 17 forever and that the friends you have now may be your friends 10 years down the line. Enjoy your youth and the relative lack of responsibilities you have now. Try to be constructive. You're playing music w/ a band, that's good...keep doing that. Just don't let the small things get you down, enjoy time with your friends as much as you can, and remember that high school will soon be over. Forever.

Stay positive.
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Posted - 09/28/2004 :  07:07:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hmmm.

Nah, fuck it, gonna pip in my two-penneth

High School personally, in fact all time of schooling up until university, was shit. Unbelievably horribly shit. Maybe my life hasn't vastly improved since then, the "adult" pressures are hard to deal with but I'm a hell of a lot more in control of things then I was back then.

I mean, I look back and all I remember was a time of getting the shit kicked out of me for being the school freak, a time of being on my own all the time because my face didn't fit, a time of endless fights and endlessly trying to find somewhere quiet and on my own, a time of looking after my mum going through a horrible breakdown after an extremely nasty divorce, nursing her through meningitis and a list of other ailments she suffered from being miserable and rundown, the time a guy I knew since I was a baby hung himself, a time when I was too emotionally weak to defend myself, a time where on an averge evening I'd be sat in my room bleeding my arms out of frustration, a time of long sleeves even in the hottest summer, a time where I couldn't sleep, a time of paranoia, I'd check the doors the windows the cooker the fire, I'd stand outside my brothers and my mums rooms making sure I could hear them still breathing, a time of being so horribly poor eating shit crap food and wearing the most horrible hand me downs, another reason for a beating in the eyes of my fellow 'children' the constant fucking rodent infestations in our two bedroomed terrace in the arse end of birmingham, a time where once I found a friend I found he was another suicidal part in my life, a time of listening to him collapse down the phone and being able to do fuck all about it, a time of failiure and frustration.

Highschool held no joy for me, there was no giggling with my friends in the playground, no friends for a fucking start, no trips to the cinema and cosy sleep overs, no cookies and fucking milk when I got home, no childhood sweetheart, I keep in touch with one person from those school times, one. The rest of the fuckers I wouldn't care if they burned tomorrow. I have no fun and fabulous high school memories, none at all.

So fuck this highschool is easy bullshit. We make our own problems? I wished every night for those things to go away, I loved learning and it's all I wanted to do, If I could take away the heartache and bullshit I'd do it like a shot. Why to teenagers kill themselves? I'd love to be ask stephen why he did it (at 11 years of age) but he's dead so I can't! His Dad came to visit me though, that night, told me how his sister (5 years old) found him hanging by his school-tie, about the ressus failing about stephen vomiting into his mouth as he tried, how the paramedics took half an hour to arrive, he told me how much he'd hated school, how much he'd hated his mum and by all accounts she hated him, just another lonley and tired kid living in scumsville. We were kids, what can you do? You don't have the authority or the ability to fix things, you can't always take yourself out of the situaion, and sometimes those people who can take you out of that situation are in no fit state to do anything about it or even realise whats going on.

So I'm glad lots of you have a plethora of lovely highschool memories, and I'm even pleased for those who had a nicely mundane few years but you can fuck off anyone who thinks it was like this for everyone.

And RMMS do you think it might not help if you quit adding fuel to the fucking fire?


I look like the kind of guy who pimps his sister not just for the money, but because he hates her
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1764 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2004 :  07:19:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tre
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And RMMS do you think it might not help if you quit adding fuel to the fucking fire?




Not quite sure what you're asking me here. What's with the double negatives? And "fucking fire"? Why so hostile toward me? Seems we agree; what's your problem? Do you just decide you dislike someone on the boards and oppose them from then on without paying any mind to the actual opinions expressed? And what bloody fire are you talking about? The fire of Ebb, because I wasn't aware that this was a heated debate among many posters? I was simply pointing out that ebb is an asshole (something people should do at every opportunity) and that he never has anything positive to say. Hell, even if he were consistently witty in his bashings, I might respect the guy; I'd even enjoy being zinged by him. But he isn't consistently witty. He's a failed comedian and he just becomes obnoxious. Perhaps if he posted sparingly his remarks would be more appreciated. As it is, he's run out of solid material. So Tre, could you re-evaluate your method of responding to me?


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slaveish
= Cult of Ray =

USA
269 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2004 :  07:25:29  Show Profile  Visit slaveish's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have strong opinions on this because I made the wrong decisions initially, based on the same scenario you're talking about. I'm so glad you're asking the advice of adults- people with life experience who aren't your teachers, parents, or advisors. My experience comes from not having any idea of what I wanted to do after high school, getting no advice from the guidance counselor or my parents, only pressure to "do something!" and that meant go to college. So I wasted four years in a business school, worked 3 1/2 in retail, and finally realized that I was an artist and went back to school for a degree in art. Since then my world opened up and I haven't regretted a thing. I was exposed to art, film, music, dance, and life that I never experienced growing up in the dreary suburbs.

So my advice is to not listen to people that tell you that you must make a decision and start on with your adult life of work and more work. Live a little- travel if you can. Take non-college level classes in things that interest you, It's far less expensive, and you can experiment. I'm working now at a dance school (something else I started later in life) and I see all these young people living in New York city, studying dance, having a great time. I wish I had the knowledge to do that when I was 17. good luck!
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KimStanleyRobinson
* Dog in the Sand *

1972 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2004 :  08:03:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sir Rockabye, relax. It will all be over in the blink of an eye and even if it sucked you'll eventually look back fondly on the time.

Do what you can, when you can.
Try to stay positive.
College will happen.
You don't have to be a superkid.
Face each day with the knowledge that very few of the people around you right now will matter in the slightest; you will meet the important ones in college and after.
Senior year, right? Have FUN, then.
If you're trying to go Ivy League, then bust your balls and hit the 4.0 veledictorian goal.
If not, and if you haven't been a complete loser for the past three years, you can afford to let a few things slide this year. Don't fail anything, but don't kill yourself - literally or figuratively.
Seriously, man - the best 4-7 years of your life lie just ahead.
Don't worry about picking a college.
You can transfer if you don't like the first one.
When you do get to college, STAY THERE for at least the entire first semester.

oh, and don't mind Ebb. He's probably had a pretty rough life. Not everyone has.

Personally, I hated high school. I was unreasonably depressed, morose, angry.
I barely made it out.
You don't have to be that.
Being positive and involved IS NOT UNCOOL.

Good luck.

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the head catatonic from the roller rink
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"

USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2004 :  09:07:57  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey Sir Rockabye,

I'm sorry you are feeling this way. I felt very much the same in my last couple years of high school and only went to college b/c I felt like it was what everyone else did and what else was there to do (especially in the rural town where I grew up). 5 months later, I dropped out and moved to Boston and began my REAL LIFE. I think the shitty parts of high school prepared me for a lot of other things and for some people to negate what you are going through is pretty damn sucky in my opinion. No one knows what your experience is, and no one can tell you what to do, there is a quote I love which says "if you are going through hell, keep going". And I think that is all you can do right now.

Anyway, I don't think college is essential right after high school - I think it is great (if you can) to take some time and figure out where your head is. Maybe take a trip and see what else is out there. Get a job and see if you like it, etc. There are many options and to say the whole wide world is out there is not an overstatement.

Hang in there, it will go by and you will be onto your real (chosen) life soon enough - whatever that may be - just do your best to get through it.

Good luck.



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This is good or bad, all depending on my general mood

Edited by - ramona on 09/28/2004 09:10:18
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
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Posted - 09/28/2004 :  09:38:06  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Do you guys ever take a gap year? I mean, between high school and college? Thats becoming increasingly popular here, it gives you a chance to work a bit, or travel, or volunteer or something.
Get out and see a bit of the world, experience life. I made the mistake of working the whole way through, living at home, so I didn't get all the benefit (I got the money instead), but my brother travelled and taught English in South Africa for five months and he came back a completely different person.


"You ever seen a man say goodbye to a shoe?"
"Yes, once..."
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 09/28/2004 :  09:53:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No, but I wish the US did. The US doesn't give young people a break to explore themselves and just take some time off.

I guess as far as problems go, it's just not something you can judge a book by the cover. Even the popular people who would make fun of me had some kind of some kind of probelem... I think by volunteering and spending time with my friends, I was able to escape those problems-- that time just helped me to keep my sanity. I know it sounds happy go lucky on the surface but it wasn't-- I think just like most people.

So I think the bottom line that goes for any point in life that no matter how much it sucks, just carve out some time to read a book, make some music, or help someone else and that is going to give you a little piece of happiness that lasts a long way and makes the rest of the crap a little easier to deal with.

Edited by - Daisy Girl on 09/28/2004 09:54:54
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quote:
Originally posted by realmeanmotorscutor

quote:
Originally posted by Tre
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And RMMS do you think it might not help if you quit adding fuel to the fucking fire?




Not quite sure what you're asking me here. What's with the double negatives? And "fucking fire"? Why so hostile toward me? Seems we agree; what's your problem? Do you just decide you dislike someone on the boards and oppose them from then on without paying any mind to the actual opinions expressed? And what bloody fire are you talking about? The fire of Ebb, because I wasn't aware that this was a heated debate among many posters? I was simply pointing out that ebb is an asshole (something people should do at every opportunity) and that he never has anything positive to say. Hell, even if he were consistently witty in his bashings, I might respect the guy; I'd even enjoy being zinged by him. But he isn't consistently witty. He's a failed comedian and he just becomes obnoxious. Perhaps if he posted sparingly his remarks would be more appreciated. As it is, he's run out of solid material. So Tre, could you re-evaluate your method of responding to me?






Love to.

I dislike sweeping statements as a rule but yeah highschoool is not all it's cracked up to be for everyone. I don't agree with all of sir rockabyes post, wishing something bad would happen is ridiculous, if you want something to happen make something good happen, don't wait for it to happen.

I don't have any personal dislike for you, I have no idea who you are, I take each post at it's own value. It has been broadly noted on the forum that ebb is obnoxious but it might help if you didn't jump sucker-fish like at every post. The more you post the easier it makes it for him to be shitty towards you, hence fuelling the fire. Plus, you're not being much better here I think, the he startd it first cuts no mustard on this forum I've noticed.

But yeah, please to pick up on the only part of my long post pertaining to you, feel free to ignore that the whole post is angry and take it as personal, whatever you do don't forget to point out my grammatical errors and be generally patronising, disregard the language in the rest of the post and make my use of the word fucking a you issue, feel valid, really, great.


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Ebb Vicious
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Posted - 09/28/2004 :  10:19:42  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TheCroutonFuton

Lord knows that people you love only die of chronic diseases when you're out of high-school...



no but my point is that's part of real life and not part of high school. duh.

high school is a fucking joke and if it seemed like otherwise to you then you did it to yourself. school was rough for me until about halfway through junior high when i realized that all the "difficulties" were really under my control and i can change my situation. so i did.

like i said before those of you who think high school was so hard, maybe you'll be fortunate and never be proven wrong. but reality is a lot harder.

edit:

also, highschool kids kill themselves because nowadays they are encouraged to be self-absorbed. if we taught kids there is a big world outside themselves that is more important than their own petty baloney it would help a lot of them get over it and see the forest past the trees, so to speak.

it's very easy to get caught up in your own little pile of crap, and not realize that in the big scheme of things the fact that jimmy took your lunch money or janey doesn't want to go to the dance with you really doesn't matter.

i like how some people have assumed because i say it's easy that means i was popular or something. i had no friends, but i didn't care. why would i? they're just children. i made friends that were in college and hung out with them. i hated being in class, so i skipped a lot.

my point is not that the bad things in life don't happen to teenagers, they do. look at the title of the thread again.

my point is that high school is a joke, and asking "how to survive it?" is ridiculous.

Edited by - Ebb Vicious on 09/28/2004 10:48:11
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bumblebeeboy2
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Posted - 09/28/2004 :  11:07:56  Show Profile  Click to see bumblebeeboy2's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
life doesn't get any better, enjoy being at school kids... i wish i was young still!

in fact i enjoyed high school, looking at me you'd probably think i got the shit kicked out of me day in day out, but i was lucky i guess, had a load of mates and we stuck together and didn't get any trouble...


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harringk
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Posted - 09/28/2004 :  11:12:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sir Rockabye,

I think taking a year off between high school and college (if you want to go to college) is a great idea. I wish I would've done that. My best advice is this:

-- Make you decisions for yourself and nobody else. Do what you think you should do, not what you think other people think you should do. That doesn't mean don't listen to other people's advice, but its your life and you have to live it for yourself.

-- Take risks while you're young. Pursue your dream job while you still have plenty of time to recover if it doesn't work out. It is also much easier to take risks before you have the responsibility of a family.

-- Always choose something you enjoy doing over money. I know it is a cliche but that doesn't mean it isn't true. Most young people think that the extra money will make up for working a job you don't really love to do...it won't.
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Cheeseman1000
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Posted - 09/28/2004 :  11:15:35  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I agree with harringk's last point wholeheartedly.


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"Yes, once..."
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Ebb Vicious
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Posted - 09/28/2004 :  11:30:17  Show Profile  Visit Ebb Vicious's Homepage  Reply with Quote
also agreed with harringk.

i wish i had posessed the courage and had been encouraged to pursue things i really wanted to do. instead, being the pessimist i am, i knew i could get work doing computer programming so i went with that.

you definitely have an opportunity to totally fail while you're young and still recover.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ebb Vicious


high school is a fucking joke and if it seemed like otherwise to you then you did it to yourself.


Fuck that.

My sadomasochistic tendancies don't run that fucking deep, people can only post on here for the large part based on their personal experiences, mine sucked and don't you dare try to invalidate that by insinuating I did it to myself




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floop
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i think there's too much pressure put on kids these days. i went to a good high school and i knew kids who's parents made them study from the time they got home till they went to bed. you must get a 4.5 grade point average and an A+ on every test or you won't get into the right college, your life will be ruined forever etc.. there really is that sentiment in some schools, and with some parents. but like monsiur said, it depends on your personal experience.

i had a good time in high school. for me, the work wasn't that hard (because i didn't try that hard and my parents didn't put much pressure on me about grades).. but the hard part was the growing up stuff. conflicts with parents, becoming an adult.. all that stuff.

if i can impart one bit of advice, it's to enjoy your time while you're young.. don't be too hard on yourself if you're not valedictorian of your class. most valedictorians are usually boring people anyway.

one thing i found: looking at the general populace of my graduating class, you'd be surprised where people end up. i know kids who got the highest grades, went to best colleges etc.. yet still have relatively lame, not-exceptionally-high-paying jobs. and i also know kids who were trouble makers and below-average students who are doing very well for themselves. i think being a well-rounded person is important. being happy is the most important.

your goals and ideas of what you want to do will probably change several times.. you don't need to worry about having specific career goals when you're stinking 16 or 17. enjoy being a kid.

now go out and cause some mischief. i command you!



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Edited by - floop on 09/28/2004 12:43:25
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