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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
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 Posted - 09/22/2004 : 10:46:04
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I am going to see him on October 4th and I am VERY excited! Has anyone else seen him on this tour? Or ever? I haven't. And I am madly in love with his newest CD (see my signature!) so yahooooo!
It will be an interesting day b/c I also have jury duty. Feh.
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gracie
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
573 Posts |
Posted - 09/22/2004 : 10:50:39
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Love Morrisey too. The new album is excellent and his still pretty shit hot on stage.
I love The Smiths more though. |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 09/22/2004 : 10:54:43
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Good grief, save me from the madness.
They play Morrissey and Shed Seven constantly at work, two of the bands I dislike the most.
I love the Smiths, but I pretty much can't stand the Moz. All the interviews I've seen put me off immediately, but I don't think the music is up to that much to be honest. He needs Johnny Marr.
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 09/22/2004 : 11:03:32
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Well, um, if you hate him so much you didn't need to read the topic, Mr. Cheese!
I love YOU ARE THE QUARRY soooo much, have you heard any of that? It's fabulous. I don't care what you say! 
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 09/22/2004 : 11:08:41
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He provokes my ire, hence I read the topic. Yes I've heard the CD, almost constantly. Maybe thats why I don't like it.
So, I finally got my X-Wing |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 09/22/2004 : 11:15:58
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Maybe.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 09/22/2004 : 11:21:48
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I also struggle to get the image of Mozilla out of my head...
So, I finally got my X-Wing |
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the tolerant
= Cult of Ray =
298 Posts |
Posted - 09/22/2004 : 11:32:20
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Ramona, just a little site with Morriseys 'unique' handwriting font if you didn't already know.
www.grsites.com/modperl/fontview.cgi?dir=m&fn=MORRISSE
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 09/22/2004 : 20:01:55
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In my younger daze I was madly in love with him and the Smiths. I saw him twice on the Kill Uncle Tour. Since I was working for a paper at the time I got to get up close to the stage and take picutres. It was cool. I think I am not going to see him this time due to $$ and the fact the two shows I saw him at are kinda the way I want to remember seeing him if that makes any sense.  |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
4698 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 01:55:03
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remig
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1734 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 02:44:27
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You know what: I've never ever heard any Smiths or Morrissey song.
What's so great about them?
I've got some doubts about the "quality" of their music, if they had only one good melody I would have heard it already.
In fact I think I've heard a Supergrass cover (Some girls are bigger than others). It was half cool, was it because of Supergrass?
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Hatchetman
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
234 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 04:39:22
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quote:
Originally posted by remig
You know what: I've never ever heard any Smiths or Morrissey song.
What's so great about them?
I've got some doubts about the "quality" of their music, if they had only one good melody I would have heard it already.
The same could be said about Frank, but we all know that his music is great. You should listen to some of their music. 'Hatfull of Hollow' is a good place to start.
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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2638 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 05:44:10
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i'm with cheeseman, morrissey stinks, and is a twat. but enjoy the gig anyway, heard mixed reports from his live shows, some people think they've been great, others think he's been dire...
Go go the average man! What are you looking for average man? The ain't nothing average about me man! |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 06:46:23
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You all are funny. I will definetly enjoy it. I may even cry (which I usually do at shows of music I love because I am a weirdo). I will report back.
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gracie
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
573 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 09:53:27
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I can understand why people don't like Mozzer, but The Smiths are so fab, i could forgive him anything.
This Charming Man is one of my favourite song ever. |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 10:13:20
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quote:
Originally posted by remig
You know what: I've never ever heard any Smiths or Morrissey song.
What's so great about them?
I've got some doubts about the "quality" of their music, if they had only one good melody I would have heard it already.
In fact I think I've heard a Supergrass cover (Some girls are bigger than others). It was half cool, was it because of Supergrass?
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So you have no point of reference, Donny.
You're like a child that wanders INTO THE MIDDLE OF A MOVIE!
Well the Smiths have novel lyrics, I like Morrissy's distinct voice, Johnny Mar is a killer gutairst (but I like Joey better). It's great music to listen to when you are going thorugh teen angst. It's a perfect balance between self deprecating humor and meloncholy.
They're not rock and roll though...but they're original. |
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Carl
- A 'Fifth' Catholic -
Ireland
11546 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 10:54:38
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| The Smiths had some monumentally brilliant musical moments, or at least some excellent/very good ones:'There Is A Light That Never Goes Out', 'The Boy With The Thorn In His Side', 'This Charming Man', 'Bigmouth Strikes Again', 'Shakesphere's Sister', among others...and Morrissey has some great solo songs ('Suedehead', 'Everyday Is Like Sunday'). I hav'nt heard that Supergrass cover, but Placebo's version of 'Bigmouth' is okay. |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 11:02:33
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I am wearing my Morrissey T-shirt right now. It's black, actually. I wear it a lot.
Cheeseman, I was surprised to read what you wrote but I still think you're cool. We're all allowed our musical dislikes.
I love love love the Smiths and Morrissey but can't quite bring myself to calling him Moz.
Ramona, you will have a lovely time, I am sure. Lucky you!
 I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank |
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1688 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 14:48:01
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Kathryn, is black how you feel inside?
I love the Smiths and a couple of Morrissey's songs are brilliant (Everyday is like Sunday, Jack the Ripper). My ex-girlfriend liked the Smiths very much. It's not usual for a girl - Morrissey's lyrics are somehow better understood by boys.
What I really like about this music is its humour. Like in this song, Handsome Devil - I posted the lyrics a couple of months ago. Unlike all these bands like Radiohead, Morrissey was able to both desperate and funny. "shyness that is criminally vulgar"
I will show you fear in a handful of dust |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 18:13:50
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Kathryn,
I have a Morissey t shrit too-- got it when the song "Ice Ice Baby" was popular people would stop me all the time and tell me how much they liked my Vanilla Ice t shirt. It was kinda funny. |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 19:29:41
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Originally posted by Monsieur
Kathryn, is black how you feel inside?
My ex-girlfriend liked the Smiths very much. It's not usual for a girl - Morrissey's lyrics are somehow better understood by boys.
Must. Not. Flame. Monsieur. Must. Say. Something. Civil. Must. Not. Call. Him. A. Sexist. Pig. Must. Stay. Polite.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank |
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WolfManMikeLonely
= Cult of Ray =
USA
936 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 19:54:26
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Morrissey is the devil.
"Hey fuck you if you don't like it."
-Johnny Thunders
www.transposed.net |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 09/24/2004 : 05:25:00
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Originally posted by WolfManMikeLonely
Morrissey is the devil.
"Hey fuck you if you don't like it."
-Johnny Thunders
www.transposed.net
So that's who is posing on the forum as lucifer? Are you saying Morrissey is posting elsewhere in off-topic as the devil?
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank |
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 09/24/2004 : 15:38:28
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Oh Manchester,
Is wonderfull
Oh Manchester is wonderfull!
I saw him at Reading and was pleasantly surprised.
Help me! He keeps making me post!
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 09/24/2004 : 15:56:23
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I think I was somewhat put off Morrissey by seeing a couple of interviews with him: he comes as quite arrogant and aloof - not a rock star detachment, more of an irritating character trait. Its almost like he buys into this image that he's created for himself, the miserable old man railing against the evils of the world.
I'm happy to agree that he's one of the finest lyricists the world has ever produced, but for the most part I don't feel that the music has been up to scratch. Johnny Marr is a musical genius and a great guitarist, and acted as a perfect foil to Morrissey's lyrics. They were the perfect package together, but separately not so hot.
I think he's one of those artists that totally polarises opinion, so I don't really mind if you like him - I can kind of see why. I'l just politely disagree.
So, I finally got my X-Wing |
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1718 Posts |
Posted - 09/25/2004 : 00:46:00
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I have listened to some of his older stuff again, heard his new album, and I have decided that I still like him.
Of course he's a poseur, but he does have talent, so I guess that makes up for it.
And the Smiths were the first important band in my life, so I owe him (and Johnny Marr) a lot.
Did you know that Andy Rourke had to auction his bass guitar on eBay last year (the one he recorded some Smiths album or other with)? Sad, eh.
Take this rock and shake it 'til it bleeds. |
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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *
South Africa
1264 Posts |
Posted - 09/25/2004 : 02:26:38
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Reading/ watching Morrissey interviews usually makes me wish I didn't like his music. But I do. Love the Smiths, like the new album and some patches in his solo career were ok.
Sad about Andy Rourke yes. I've read a few articles which claimed that Morrissey was the only one to make money out of the Smiths. He lives in a LA mansion now......
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gracie
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
573 Posts |
Posted - 09/25/2004 : 10:00:46
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I don't think that he is an engaging guy and when i see him in interviews i do cringe but i just try to avoid it so as not to contaminate the music. I can't work out whether the whole thing is an act or he is that way inclined.
There are lots of famous people that come across badly in interviews (Frank being one of them) but then they can't all be Kim Deal. |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 09/25/2004 : 10:08:38
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quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000
I think I was somewhat put off Morrissey by seeing a couple of interviews with him: he comes as quite arrogant and aloof - not a rock star detachment, more of an irritating character trait. Its almost like he buys into this image that he's created for himself, the miserable old man railing against the evils of the world.
I'm happy to agree that he's one of the finest lyricists the world has ever produced, but for the most part I don't feel that the music has been up to scratch. Johnny Marr is a musical genius and a great guitarist, and acted as a perfect foil to Morrissey's lyrics. They were the perfect package together, but separately not so hot.
I think he's one of those artists that totally polarises opinion, so I don't really mind if you like him - I can kind of see why. I'l just politely disagree.
So, I finally got my X-Wing
I do appreciate your polite and thought-provoking disagreement, Cheesedude. I know what you mean about the irritating character trait so I was pleasantly surprised to see in most of the "Quarry" interviews that Morrissey seems mellowed out and actually happy, not morose at all. Certainly changed from his 80s gloom, which, happily, I can also say for myself.
And, yes, I am wearing another black Morrissey T-shirt as I type....
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank |
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bumblebeeboy2
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
2638 Posts |
Posted - 09/25/2004 : 10:08:40
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danger of going on-topic... but i think frank comes across really well in interviews, sometimes he messes about and is quite childish, but generally he seems very honest and down to earth, and funny!
Go go the average man! What are you looking for average man? The ain't nothing average about me man! |
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 09/25/2004 : 10:11:45
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Originally posted by bumblebeeboy2
danger of going on-topic... but i think frank comes across really well in interviews, sometimes he messes about and is quite childish, but generally he seems very honest and down to earth, and funny!
Go go the average man! What are you looking for average man? The ain't nothing average about me man!
On-topic! Oh, no!
I agree. Frank comes off as anything but arrogant. Deeply intelligent, very funny and emotionally astute. Whereas Kim Deal sounds mopey and self-pitying at best, IMHO.
I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank |
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gracie
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
573 Posts |
Posted - 09/25/2004 : 10:12:00
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I think he comes across as bad tempered and he seemed like a bit of a jerk in that Spin article. Don't all jump on me, i love Frank, i just wouldn't want to interview him.
Mind you, i suppose it's easy to get fed up with answering the same questios over and over. |
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
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Posted - 09/25/2004 : 12:11:36
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Well, I think it would be a wonderful thing if Morissey got back together with the original Smiths members. I just don't think it woudl ever happen due to the fall out with Morissey/Marr. But it wold be a beautful reunion. Second to the Pixies of course. It would also be a good thing to help out the other band members.
As far as how Charles comes across in the interviews is refreshingly honest/straight forward, compelling, witty, somewhat sarcastic, self aware and down to earth. I have heard the way Morissey comes across and he does come across as arrogant-- but I thought that may have more to do with the persona than what seems/seemed to be an overly sensitive person-- it's just Morissey being Morissey.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~
Belgium
15320 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2004 : 06:25:02
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Originally posted by gracie
I think he comes across as bad tempered and he seemed like a bit of a jerk in that Spin article. Don't all jump on me, i love Frank....
Gracie, I am fascinated by differences in perspective and by subjectivity -- or is the word "subjectiveness"? Anyway, I love Frank and I am not jumping all over you. But I thought that in the Spin piece he seemed very cool and confident and I thought it was Kim who came off as a jerk. Interesting how people can have such different opinions about the same thing.
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gracie
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
573 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2004 : 07:53:33
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realmeanmotorscutor
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1764 Posts |
Posted - 09/26/2004 : 09:17:27
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How do you pronounce this guy's name? I always thought it was Mora-see, like the a in "pa."
But there's a Mountain Goats song where he says "I don't like Mor-risee," like the i in "his" and he breaks up the emphasis differently too.
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