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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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 Posted - 09/24/2004 : 20:56:54
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are you being obtuse on purpose?
Over 90 degrees?
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You're as transparent as Kerry, changing your position as it suits you.
Changing your mind is un-American!
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 10/08/2004 : 12:46:02
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Just another reason to question the intellectual stature of the anti-Bush voice:
Poll: Youth Tie Bush, Draft Reinstatement
Oct 8, 2004
WASHINGTON (AP) - In spite of denials by the Bush administration, half of young Americans believe President Bush (news - web sites) wants to reinstate the military draft, a national poll suggests.
The National Annenberg Election Survey found that 51 percent of adults age 18 to 29 believe Bush wants to reinstate the draft. Eight percent said Kerry supports bring back the draft, and 7 percent said both want to. A fourth of those polled said neither candidate favors the idea.
Both Bush and Kerry say they don't support a renewed military draft.
Earlier this week, the House defeated a bill paving the way to a draft 402-2. [emphasis added] House Republicans have sought to quash the persistent Internet rumor that the president wants to reinstate the draft if re-elected while Democrats have fanned the flames on the rumor.
"Young voters are much more misinformed about the presidential candidates' positions on the draft than the population in general," said Kate Kenski, an analyst at the University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg Public Policy Center.
Three in 10 adults think Bush wants to reinstate the draft, and 7 percent of all adults think both Bush and Kerry feel that way.
The polling of 1,543 adults was done from Sept. 27 to Oct. 3 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 2 percentage points — 7 percentage points for the young adults.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 10/08/2004 : 13:02:51
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And, what in that PROVES that Bush won't need to bring back the draft if things don't improve in Iraq?
And, if you want further examples of stupidty. Many Americans still believe Iraq and September 11 are linked.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1240543,00.html
A poll by the University of Maryland in April (2004) found 57% of Americans believed Iraq helped al-Qaida before the war and 20% believed Iraq was linked to the September 11 attacks |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 10/08/2004 : 13:15:11
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 10/08/2004 : 13:46:14
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Originally posted by darwin
And, what in that PROVES that Bush won't need to bring back the draft if things don't improve in Iraq?
No proof, but this fearmongering assault on American youth is obviously a transparent Dem attempt to lie themselves into the White House. No doubt Michael Moore, Joe Lockhart, and Terry McAuliffe stand proud.
While I don't believe Saddam was active in the actual planning and execution of 9/11, there can be no doubt of the Iraq-terrorism link, as evidenced yet again with today's disclosure of Iraqi designs on US schools, so to speak.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=533&e=3&u=/ap/20041008/ap_on_re_us/schools_warnings |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 10/08/2004 : 14:08:20
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I can kind of see why people would link Bush to the draft. It kind of seems to be the next step in his desire to use the ignorant commoners as pawns in meeting his own ends. I've seen no real evidence that such is actually the case, though.
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 10/08/2004 : 14:42:51
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Originally posted by Erebus
While I don't believe Saddam was active in the actual planning and execution of 9/11, there can be no doubt of the Iraq-terrorism link, as evidenced yet again with today's disclosure of Iraqi designs on US schools, so to speak.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=533&e=3&u=/ap/20041008/ap_on_re_us/schools_warnings
First line of that linked article:
Federal officials said Friday there is no terrorist connection to a computer disk found in Iraq (news - web sites) that contained information about schools in six states.
What about that article gives you "no doubt of the Iraq-terrorism link"? |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 10/08/2004 : 14:56:05
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Originally posted by darwin
What about that article gives you "no doubt of the Iraq-terrorism link"?
"It's not about schools, it's about policy," said FBI Agent William Evanina, spokesman for the FBI field office in Newark, N.J. "There's no terrorism threat to these schools."
Read between the lines, darwin. FBI Agent William Evanina is a lying Dem! |
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 10/08/2004 : 15:14:59
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The officials want to minimize panic, right? The Feds can say what they want but the connection is made.
It's funny how political debators, of all persuasions, insist upon virtually ironclad arguments from their opponents while holding themselves to what amount to almost no standards at all. Politics makes liars and fools of us all, and recurrently makes armed conflict seem the only rational alternative. This election is less and less about who wins and more and more about what we have become as a nation. If the election were to be settled by rockfights in streets, it really would be no less incriminating of who we are. |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 10/08/2004 : 15:24:27
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Originally posted by Erebus
The officials want to minimize panic, right? The Feds can say what they want but the connection is made.
It's funny how political debators, of all persuasions, insist upon virtually ironclad arguments from their opponents while holding themselves to what amount to almost no standards at all. Politics makes liars and fools of us all,
So, you say X and claim that a link supports your contention. But, when someone checks your link and finds no support for X, you attack by saying others require too much of you but not enough of themselves. You've got some balls.
I may predicatably argue for the liberal side, but I think I hold a pretty high standard of trying to provide links and support for my arguements (that's the scientist in me). And I don't put much weight on opinions that aren't similarly supported with facts or evidence. |
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 10/08/2004 : 15:47:41
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Originally posted by darwin
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Originally posted by Erebus
The officials want to minimize panic, right? The Feds can say what they want but the connection is made.
It's funny how political debators, of all persuasions, insist upon virtually ironclad arguments from their opponents while holding themselves to what amount to almost no standards at all. Politics makes liars and fools of us all,
So, you say X and claim that a link supports your contention. But, when someone checks your link and finds no support for X, you attack by saying others require too much of you but not enough of themselves. You've got some balls.
I may predicatably argue for the liberal side, but I think I hold a pretty high standard of trying to provide links and support for my arguements (that's the scientist in me). And I don't put much weight on opinions that aren't similarly supported with facts or evidence.
darwin, darwin, darwin. What "attack"? Please note that I include myself as the object of my chagrin over the state of political debate. Regarding the article, I was merely observing that, at least from my perspective, what the govt says about a suggestion of terrorist threat against schools is at best a benign lie.
I agree that you hold decent standards of argument, but when I point to an article that strongly suggests at least some Iraq-terrorism link, you seem to focus on govt protests that no such link exists. The reasons the govt might say this are obvious, to the point that their statements pass as nothing more than standard ass-covering boiler plate, but nonetheless it is this that serves as the thrust of your rejoinder. So, yes, I am taking this present discussion as an example of the sorry state of political discourse, but I do not exempt myself from the same criticism. My paragraph of resignation over the state of US politics was intended as a confession of what I expected to be taken as shared sadness, not as an attack. |
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Posted - 10/08/2004 : 16:04:01
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I'm not sure which thread is more compelling, this one or the FB one
*flits between both*
I look like the kind of guy who pimps his sister not just for the money, but because he hates her
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 10/08/2004 : 16:29:08
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Originally posted by Tre
I'm not sure which thread is more compelling, this one or the FB one
*flits between both*
I look like the kind of guy who pimps his sister not just for the money, but because he hates her
I'm happy to answer questions as long as they come in an orderly manner. |
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Posted - 10/08/2004 : 16:48:42
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heh heh so Darwin, Auntie Chub as a lady of ample love worries about her man-harem being drafted. She's also worried this furious debate will be giving her favourite (thats you) frown lines, should she be concerned?
(ok I'll stop it now and go back to being an observor)
I look like the kind of guy who pimps his sister not just for the money, but because he hates her
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 10/08/2004 : 16:58:53
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| Hey Tre, what about my frown lines? My brain may be broken but I got a face too. Nobody ever cares about my frown lines. |
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Posted - 10/08/2004 : 17:04:17
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Auntie Chub hasn't met you yet, I can introduce you if you like, you won't like it though, she's got a *big* thing for Darwin
I care erebus, would you like me to send you a moisturiser and a young nubile type to indian head massage style rub it into your head thus bansishing unsightly frown lines?
I look like the kind of guy who pimps his sister not just for the money, but because he hates her
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 10/08/2004 : 17:08:28
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Thanks Tre. Now that I know you care, I'll just try to smile more.
As if on cue, here's that loathesome Clintonista McAuliffe sounding off on the draft. Knowing how sensitive you folks are, I simply can't understand how you tolerate trash like this guy.
http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewPolitics.asp?Page=\Politics\archive\200410\POL20041008b.html |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 10/08/2004 : 17:17:43
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Sorry, but I put about as much stock in an article with "Dems" in the headline as I would one with "Japs" or "Krauts."
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I'm happy to answer questions as long as they come in an orderly manner.
So, are YOU going to play any songs from Bossanova and Trompe Le Monde?
"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan |
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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
5454 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2004 : 00:19:27
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| I did play Bossanova earlier this week and SMYT was played this afternoon. Thanks all. It was fun. |
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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *
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1162 Posts |
Posted - 10/09/2004 : 00:23:34
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hey this thread is one of those draft rumours on the Internets bush was talking about. |
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 10/09/2004 : 08:50:03
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| "Have the Internet? You're Gonna Get Spam E-Mails and Spam Message Board Posts About How You're Gonna Get Drafted" |
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Posted - 10/09/2004 : 09:16:21
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Hey, question dodging Darwin! I want a totally obscure answer and I want it now! damnit!
I look like the kind of guy who pimps his sister not just for the money, but because he hates her
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Alpha Soixante
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Posted - 10/10/2004 : 11:22:50
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It's not just an internet rumor. There's an interesting article in the New York Times on the question, but you have to register to read it. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/03/weekinreview/03dao.html?oref=login&oref=login
The issue is (for those in denial) not whether either Bush or Kerry would want to reinstate a draft, but whether they'll have any choice. Chances of not needing a draft are better with Kerry, since he's not working with neoconservatives who are actively trying to expand military operations in the Middle East. But even Kerry might not be able to avoid it.
Some selections from the article:
The mathematics behind these suggestions can be sobering. In the combined American armed forces there are 1.4 million active-duty troops, with another 865,000 National Guard members and reservists. That may sound like a big pool to draw from, but consider: Total active Army and Marine personnel are about 655,000, and that includes support units, training units, headquarters personnel and others who do not go to the front. During a prolonged war like that in Iraq, units sent to the front have to be rotated out and replaced with an equal number while they rest and retrain.
So maintaining a level of 135,000 ground troops in Iraq, another 20,000 in Afghanistan and a smaller force in the Balkans, while a garrison of 36,000 (soon to be reduced) guards the Korean armistice line and other troops maintain bases in Europe, creates a major strain. The current system is already drawing on Guard and reserve units to fill the gap. What is more, some military officers and political figures have long questioned whether 135,000 troops is a large enough force to prevail in Iraq.
What if another big deployment is needed? Estimates vary widely on how many additional troops might be required, but some analysts say the current overall force could easily fall short by more than 70,000 ground troops. In the 1991 gulf war, when Saddam Hussein was at the height of his power, the United States sent 500,000 troops to evict Iraqi forces from Kuwait.
..."You might be able to squeeze more people out of pockets of the military, but the truth is, there is a limit to what you can do there," said Gary Schmitt, executive director of the Project for the New American Century, a conservative group that favors permanent expansion of the Army.
...But the most striking shortcoming in both plans, experts say, is their lack of allowance for another major conflict - if war erupts on the Korean Peninsula, or tensions with Iran boil over, or the United States suffers a major terrorist attack.
A Pentagon-appointed panel recently concluded that the military would lack the forces to handle its current combat and stabilization operations if new crises emerged. |
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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 10/10/2004 : 11:59:12
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hey guess what alpha?
this thread is still bullshit and you're still an idiot. |
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
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Posted - 10/10/2004 : 12:02:19
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| Thank you for that well-reasoned and informative post on the subject, Alpha. It echoes what I've found in my own research. Either administration would have to initiate the draft if there were a national emergency. Neither can categorically promise that they will NOT initiate the draft during their term. To do so is purely empty political rhetoric. |
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Alpha Soixante
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Posted - 10/10/2004 : 12:06:33
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Thanks Apple, and I think you summed things up perfectly. I'd add that I think Kerry might have a better chance at avoiding a national emergency. At the very least, I hope he'd try to avoid one, which I'm not confident Bush's people would do.
Ebb, sweety, take a nap. Sticking your fingers in your ears and singing "I can't hear you" is just making you crankier. |
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Alpha Soixante
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Posted - 10/10/2004 : 15:44:34
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Well, Ebb. Since you've been a good boy and stopped interrupting the grown-ups, I've written you a bedtime story:
Once upon a time, there was a mighty king who had started so many wars at once that he ran out of armies. "What are we going to do?" the mighty king asked his most trusted advisors. "Well, sire," one advisor replied, "we could stop starting new wars."
After everyone finished laughing and picked themselves up off the floor and wiped the tears from their eyes, the king said, "Seriously though, what are we going to do?" "Sire," said another advisor, "we have no choice but to order our subjects to join our armies." "Against their will? Never!" exclaimed the king. "There is nothing I value more deeply than the will of my beloved subjects!"
After everyone finished laughing and picked themselves up off the floor and wiped the tears from their eyes, another advisor said, "Good one, sire. But won't the people revolt?" "True," said the king, "I hadn't thought of that. They might hold protest marches. And protests could turn the kingdom against us."
After everyone finished laughing and picked themselves up off the floor and wiped the tears from their eyes, another advisor said, "Another gem, sire. But what if the people resort to violence?" "Hmm," said the king. "Yes, that could be a problem. No army can withstand the common will of the people."
After everyone had finished laughing and picked themselves up off the floor and wiped the tears from their eyes, another advisor said, "I hope the protesters don't come after us with their puppets!" "I make the jokes around here," said the king.
Suddenly, the king's magician appeared in a puff of smoke. "I've solved your problem, sire," he said. "Take my hand." The king did, and they both vanished in a puff of smoke.
The king soon found himself in a magical far-off land full of magical mysterious magic. "This is a magical land," said the magician. "The Land of Ebb. It's full of magic, and you can only get here through magic. Fortunately, I'm a magician." "Wow!" said the king. "It must be hard work, the magic. I'm a hard worker, but not magical. Magical work, I mean. Working magic hard. Work. Magic."
The magician led the king across the land of Ebb to a strange place. Before them was a mysterious hole, like a hole in a golf course. "This is a magical, enchanted hole, sire," said the magician. It is known as Ebb's Hole. Sire, what do you wish for more than anything right now?"
"I could go for a pretzel," replied the king. The magician reached deep into Ebb's Hole and pulled out a hot, tasty pretzel. "Wow, it's like magic!" exclaimed the king. "Yes," said the magician. "It's a magic hole with many magical properties." "It looks like hard work, though," said the king. "So, how does this magic hole solve my problem?"
"Pretzels aren't the only thing you can pull out of Ebb's Hole," replied the magician. "You can pull anything you want out of Ebb's Hole. Watch!" The magician reached again into Ebb's Hole and slowly drew out a knight on horseback. Then he pulled out another, and another, and another. Soon the king was surrounded by a mighty army. "Amazing!" exclaimed the king. "How could they all fit inside that hole?"
"Magic," replied the magician, "magical magic." "Well," said the king, "it looked like hard work. Working hard. Harding work. Warding Hock. Wok."
"Problem solved," said the magician.
"Good work," said the king. "Good, hard work. Blark."
Then the magician pulled lollipops and candycanes and rainbows and racing cars out of Ebb's Hole and gave them to all the good boys and girls who obeyed grownups and went to bed when they were told to. And all the good little boys and girls stuffed themselves with candy and racing cars and went to bed like they were told them and had sweet, sweet dreams from which they never awoke again.
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
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Posted - 10/10/2004 : 15:54:25
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Either administration would have to initiate the draft if there were a national emergency.
Well, unless they took troops out of places like Iraq to fight back at home.
"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan |
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NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 10/10/2004 : 16:03:36
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What happens to you if you don't register for the draft when you turn eighteen?
ˇViva los Católicos! |
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Posted - 10/10/2004 : 17:07:00
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I can't sleep and I want a bedtime story now, can this be a bedtime story thread instead puh-puh-pretty puh-please. Can it have a unicorn in it? And a dragon, ooh and a really big mountain!!! No big wars though, they give me frown lines
I look like the kind of guy who pimps his sister not just for the money, but because he hates her
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Ebb Vicious
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Posted - 10/10/2004 : 19:00:34
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you seem to think just because i'm calling you an idiot that i support bush. i don't, and the iraq war has been the biggest fuck up in my lifetime.
however, prattling on like chicken little about a draft is moronic. it's not going to happen, and you're a fucking imbecile for going on about it for so long. and i will continue to tell you that you are dumb as a fencepost every time you bring it up.
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i am not exaggerating at all when i say that this thread is just as fucking dumb as the one where some retards were trying to say that evolution is questionable. it's like the fucking flat earth people or something.
it's such a colossal waste of time and energy to worry about a draft, and to think about a draft.
why don't you spend your time and energy thinking about more realistic and immediate problems instead? why don't you worry about the concept of a war with Iran or North Korea or somewhere else WITHOUT a draft? is that not horrifying enough? is war only bad when people are forced to go and die for no reason as opposed to volunteering to protect their country and instead throwing their lives away some Haliburton and other companies can put new wallpaper on the inside of their enormous vaults?
or how about the hoarding of money by the richest people in the country -- no, fuck that -- the world. 2% of the population controls 98% of the wealth. and all the tax breaks in the world are not going to make them share it. they won't do anything with it? do you know why? because they live off of the interest. they can have lifestyles beyond your imagination without spending any of the largest portion of their wealth. why don't you worry about the malnourishment and undereducation of the majority of the world while Bill Gates and the Walton family fly around on private jets eating wearing clothes that cost more than your annual income?
why don't you spend your time complaining about our political system making it impossible for any new ideas or any kind of real interest in doing good making it to the highest levels? why don't you complain about the fact that any halfway decent person who enters into politics gets so discouraged and crushed by the machinery that they either assimilate or give up? why don't you complain about the greatest country in the world binding itself at the wrists and ankles with a political system so corrupt and worthless that the only choice we have is who will fuck us over less?
why don't you stop wasting my time with childish, fanciliful bullshit and talk about some real problems instead?
because i'm tired of you and i'm tired of your stupidity. so unless you are going to educate yourself and share an opinion that is worth reading, please shut your fucking face. |
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Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
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Posted - 10/12/2004 : 10:51:50
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,135145,00.html
And now, the Rock The Vote (search) campaign — self-described as a "non-partisan organization ... [trying] to increase youth voter turnout" — has sent fake draft cards to nearly 640,000 people via e-mail, all headlined: "You've Been Drafted."
The emails, quoted by the Los Angeles Times, warn that "real cards may be in the mail soon if the situation doesn't improve."
A Rock the Vote spokesman, however, insists the e-mail blitz is non-partisan.
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KimStanleyRobinson
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Posted - 10/12/2004 : 11:16:49
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quote:
Originally posted by Ebb Vicious
you seem to think just because i'm calling you an idiot that i support bush. i don't, and the iraq war has been the biggest fuck up in my lifetime.
however, prattling on like chicken little about a draft is moronic. it's not going to happen, and you're a fucking imbecile for going on about it for so long. and i will continue to tell you that you are dumb as a fencepost every time you bring it up.
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i am not exaggerating at all when i say that this thread is just as fucking dumb as the one where some retards were trying to say that evolution is questionable. it's like the fucking flat earth people or something.
it's such a colossal waste of time and energy to worry about a draft, and to think about a draft.
why don't you spend your time and energy thinking about more realistic and immediate problems instead? why don't you worry about the concept of a war with Iran or North Korea or somewhere else WITHOUT a draft? is that not horrifying enough? is war only bad when people are forced to go and die for no reason as opposed to volunteering to protect their country and instead throwing their lives away some Haliburton and other companies can put new wallpaper on the inside of their enormous vaults?
or how about the hoarding of money by the richest people in the country -- no, fuck that -- the world. 2% of the population controls 98% of the wealth. and all the tax breaks in the world are not going to make them share it. they won't do anything with it? do you know why? because they live off of the interest. they can have lifestyles beyond your imagination without spending any of the largest portion of their wealth. why don't you worry about the malnourishment and undereducation of the majority of the world while Bill Gates and the Walton family fly around on private jets eating wearing clothes that cost more than your annual income?
why don't you spend your time complaining about our political system making it impossible for any new ideas or any kind of real interest in doing good making it to the highest levels? why don't you complain about the fact that any halfway decent person who enters into politics gets so discouraged and crushed by the machinery that they either assimilate or give up? why don't you complain about the greatest country in the world binding itself at the wrists and ankles with a political system so corrupt and worthless that the only choice we have is who will fuck us over less?
why don't you stop wasting my time with childish, fanciliful bullshit and talk about some real problems instead?
because i'm tired of you and i'm tired of your stupidity. so unless you are going to educate yourself and share an opinion that is worth reading, please shut your fucking face.
Just wanted to quote this.
Head butting, knuckle knocking "hell yeah" to you Ebb.
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Ebb Vicious
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Posted - 10/12/2004 : 11:44:00
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Originally posted by Erebus
HAY D00DZ AN ORGANIZATION STARTED BY MTV MIGHT NOT BE NON-PARTISAN!!!!!!!!!!!
oh GEE WHIZ do you think!??! OH MAN!!!
next you're gonna tell me that SWIFT BOAT VETERANS FOR TRUTH isn't non-partisan!?!?!?
OH MAN THIS MUST BE TOPSY-TURVY WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Alpha Soixante
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Canada
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Posted - 10/20/2004 : 14:15:24
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Of Course There Won't Be A Draft!: The FAQ
http://fafblog.blogspot.com/2004_10_17_fafblog_archive.html#109829259214293575
Courtesy of the sublimely funny Fafblog.
Less funny, but worth reading:
Two articles from the wacky, wacky New York Times (registration required)
"U.S. Has Contingency Plans for a Draft of Medical Workers"
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/19/politics/19draft.html?ex=1099195485&ei=1&en=489458992e8cb298
Excerpt: "In a confidential report this summer, a contractor hired by the agency described how such a draft might work, how to secure compliance and how to mold public opinion and communicate with health care professionals, whose lives could be disrupted
....Under the plan, Mr. Flahavan said, about 3.4 million male and female health care workers ages 18 to 44 would be expected to register with the Selective Service. From this pool, he said, the agency could select tens of thousands of health care professionals practicing in 62 health care specialties."
"Feeling the Draft"
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/19/opinion/19krugman.html?oref=login&oref=login&oref=login&oref=login&oref=login&hp
Excerpt: "Those who are worrying about a revived draft are in the same position as those who worried about a return to budget deficits four years ago, when President Bush began pushing through his program of tax cuts. Back then he insisted that he wouldn't drive the budget into deficit - but those who looked at the facts strongly suspected otherwise. Now he insists that he won't revive the draft. But the facts suggest that he will." |
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Under 35? You're Gonna Get Drafted
