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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
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Posted - 09/21/2004 :  10:29:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not that I disagree Carolynanna, but I know from experience that the best thing a manager can do is surround herself with people she can count on. You want to hire people who will be as good as you are and, if you are lucky, who excell in your areas of weakness. (A tangent: many managers are too insecure to surround themselves with "rising stars" lest they be seen as less capable than their "underlings.") The best such group I put together was all male, all non-white (three were Mexican-American, the other Philipino). We kicked some ass and had a lot of fun. But I would have hired anybody who had those qualities, no matter their gender or race. That said, it bothers me to no end when people automatically assume that a person is a priviledged power-freak just because he is white and male.

Also, yeah, there were some good songs on that album. What happened to those guys?


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Edited by - kathryn on 09/21/2004 10:32:12
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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
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Posted - 09/21/2004 :  10:45:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is the best thing a manager can do,
but they usually don't.

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
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Posted - 09/21/2004 :  10:59:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And to totally hijack the thread: my worst bosses by far have been women. By far. It saddens me to say this as a woman and a feminist, but the bosses I count myself happy to have had have all been male and my two bosses from hell were both female. Total psychos.


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Carolynanna
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Canada
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Posted - 09/21/2004 :  11:14:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's funny.
The worst boss I had was female and a psychiatrist.
I kept thinking how can she not know she's such a nazi bitch...

But I've had good and bad in both.
The worst are the suits, fuck I hate suits..

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and worship without sacrifice."
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

USA
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Posted - 09/22/2004 :  16:54:00  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
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like they do in boy bands, ya know, the bad the good the ugly, the gay and the ethnic minority guy....


You mean they aren't ALL gay?

I listen to mostly music made by English-speaking white people. It wasn't really a conscious thing on my part, though. Well, I guess the language thing kind of was, but not the race thing.



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