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jo
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
516 Posts |
 Posted - 09/22/2004 : 07:22:31
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the red one? We've got around 20 copies left before it's deleted forever....
same with some other ep's - we're down to our last few copies... got the FB Headache single down to the last 10 now... |
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jediroller
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1718 Posts |
Posted - 09/22/2004 : 09:00:34
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Glad someone finally mentioned the last Throwing Muses album (aka "Sensuous Flaps", aka "Uses" for the useless Amazon.fr staff who can't even unfold a sleeve to read the full name of the album). It had to be you, Jo... :)
I love that album, it's a rocker, has got great hooks and lovely Kristin-and-Tanya harmonies. I really don't understand how it could be so overlooked. Especially since it came out at a time when critics were raving about the "return of rock" and feeding us stuff like B.R.M.C., "yeah man, look, I wear black leather jackets and my hair's in my eyes, wok'n'woll man!" (I've had their album for a long time, when I realised that it still bored me as much after listen #12 as it did during listen #1, I sold it.) Meanwhile, TM rocked more than ever, and nobody seemed to care, that seemed so unfair. But then, I'm aware that this comes from a fanboy's perspective. I may be biased :)
Besides, Throwing Muses, the album, conjures fond memories of a concert in Dublin... "Furious" was the opener (which thrilled me no end, 'cause I had just been thinking how great an opener "Furious" would be!).
"Furious", of course, is from Red Heaven, a TM album that I definitely recommend to all y'all fans of rockin' rockingness. It's TM's first post-Tanya album, and in some ways I like to think it's a blueprint for the rawer sound Kristin Hersh would eventually cultivate. It took me some time to get into, and I'm still not sure about the track "Dio" (with Bob Mould guesting on vocals), but in the end, it's become one of my most cherished TM albums.
On the other hand, I still don't get "Hunkpapa".
Also, I agree about "Doghouse". The first TM album is a strange and beautiful object indeed. I still have the attraction/repulsion thing going strong with this one. I think repeated listens are in order there.
Hope you finally get there Simon, but if you don't, well, maybe there's just nothing for you in there.
Take this rock and shake it 'til it bleeds. |
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1772 Posts |
Posted - 09/22/2004 : 09:08:05
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Just checked this thread and had to snicker.
The whole while i thought it was about Transcendental Meditation |
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jo
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
516 Posts |
Posted - 09/22/2004 : 09:20:00
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sorry Franck, it had to be done!
weirdly, whenever I think of all the Muses gigs last year, I always forget about Dublin- I'm not sure why either. It's strange. Dublin was so empty too. A funny old night..! I remember hearing the songs for the first time - I think the first song I heard was Mercury, and I got shivers down my back, major shivers.. hearing Kristin and Tanya sing together again. I nearly burst into tears when Solar Dip came to the last chorus.. it was strange... probably from hearing the early versions of the song as a Kristin song, and seeing it evolve into this mad fast song, while still not losing what made the song great in the first place.. maybe? It's just a shame Tanya never came over to Europe for those dates... maybe that's why I always forget about them - seeing them in NY was just fantastic and something I'd never want to repeat because I don't know if it could be topped as far as great nights out with great bands go...
can you remember what percentage songs made up most of their live sets on that tour? Obviously quite a lot from the last album, but I can't think that one got a higher quota than another.. |
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Bluish Black
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
108 Posts |
Posted - 09/22/2004 : 09:39:37
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Originally posted by jo
I don't think that having Throwing Muses and the Pixies grouped together, despite their links and touring together, does TM a favour. The Pixies were always the bigger band, and in some ways, it really annoyed me with the Muses reunions and the tiny fanfares it got, compared to the Pixies world tour... Throwing Muses had to split because they couldn't afford to exist as a band any more...
I think if Throwing Muses reformed and started touring now they would be very successful, perhaps not quite as successful as the Pixies.
I don't think Frank Black and the Catholics were a financially guaranteed success. Frank only last year was saying how much he appreciated the royalty cheques from the David Bowie cover.
I personally think Kristin Hersh is a musical genius like Frank Black. The music buying public seems to recognize that now presumably because of the likes of Radiohead, PJ Harvey, Placebo and the numerous guitar bands that have emerged in the last couple of years.
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 09/22/2004 : 10:03:46
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You've mentioned that'un before, Benji, so its on order now. Jo scared me into buying it.
 So, I finally got my X-Wing |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 09/22/2004 : 10:22:46
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Or I thought it was on order, until 4AD's bizarre internet ordering thing said no.
Jo!?
So, I finally got my X-Wing |
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Newo
~ Abstract Brain ~
Spain
2674 Posts |
Posted - 09/22/2004 : 11:07:04
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I thought this was going be about transcendental meditation. I´ll get my coat.
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Jódete, tío,
Que se joda tu hermana,
Que se joda tu hermano,
Que se joda tu madre,
Que se joda tu tía,
¡Porque soy policia!
Que se jodas, currante,
Que se joda tu perro,
Que se joda tu hijo,
Que se joda tu amante,
No me pidas razónes,
Soy el Hombre ¡cojones! |
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jo
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
516 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 02:39:03
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Originally posted by Bluish Black
I think if Throwing Muses reformed and started touring now they would be very successful, perhaps not quite as successful as the Pixies.
they did! Last year... although money meant they could only do a few gigs - so there was one night in London, then Dublin, plus Glasgow and Manchester, but then a load of US dates which also included Tanya... now 50 Foot Wave exists and David Narcizo doesn't want to do live work any more, TM is effectively over... although they might do one-off's again |
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jo
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
516 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 02:40:01
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Originally posted by Cheeseman1000
Or I thought it was on order, until 4AD's bizarre internet ordering thing said no.
Jo!?
ohh the shop is on it's last legs - we're hopefully getting our new shop in the new year, but drop me an email (link on my profile!) and I'll have a loook - I could bring it along to the gig tonight and save you the postage too, cause I'm good like that! |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 02:54:51
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Cool, definitely. Benji's been banging on about that one for ages.
I can't email you Jo - you have no email address here!
So, I finally got my X-Wing |
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jo
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
516 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 04:55:37
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don't I?!
mailorder at almaroad.co.uk and I'll get it! |
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
3426 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 06:57:02
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yeah, i love that ep.
like the versions much better than on Star....
rawk!
 Join the Cult of Cartman! Respect my Authoritaah!!! |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 09/23/2004 : 17:04:16
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The whole while i thought it was about Transcendental Meditation
Not about trademarks?
"Signature quotes are so lame." --Nathan |
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Marcel
- FB Fan -
Netherlands
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Posted - 09/24/2004 : 03:45:05
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Be aware when you are just getting into the muses: after a year you are totally addicted...
My favourite 'period' is pre-Hunkpapa: Muses at their best I'd say. The albums after Hunkpapa (Hunkpapa is the only album I 'dislike') are perfect as well, but aren't that weird and typically Muses-like (if there is such a thing...).
50 Foot Wave is definitely one of the best bands around nowadays. I will see them in Amsterdam on 1 October and I'm already fucking exited!
GLORY WEED - all about 50 Foot Wave
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jimmy
= Cult of Ray =
USA
876 Posts |
Posted - 09/24/2004 : 23:03:46
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"Slow Dust" is great with that early version of "Slow Dog" and the hidden track. It may be hard to find now, but the "Gepetto" cassette-single B-side is the "U.S. Radio Remix" of "Slow Dog" and it's got a really cool intro. I've never seen this version on any of their other releases.
Aside from the fact that most of the Throwing Muses lyrics are stupid, incoherent nonsense, they make very good music. If you're going to just download, the best are:
Hate My Way ( 1986 Throwing Muses album version)
Mexican Women (House Tornado)
Devil's Roof, Mania (Hunkpapa)
Hook In Her Head (The Real Ramona)
Amazing Grace (Counting Backwards EP)
Cry Baby Cry (Not Too Soon EP)
The Visit (Red Heaven)
Crayon Sun (Bright yellow Gun EP)
Surf Cowboy (University)
Cowbirds (Limbo)
Civil Disobedience, Solar Dip (Throwing Muses 2003) |
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