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kathryn
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Belgium
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Posted - 09/05/2004 :  10:08:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am setting myself up for all kinds of mocking (maybe not from sweet Ramona) but here goes: maybe it doesn't mean anything, maybe it's about self-nurturing. Just take care of yourself and whatever will transpire will transpire. I know that attitude sounds lame but it helps me feel peaceful during times of freakiness.

Good luck with everything. xoxo



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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/06/2004 :  10:45:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ramona



He's going to be freaked out.


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Why? I thought you knew he has feelings for you too. He may not like the honesty of the situation but it doesn't sound to me as though he will be half as suprised as you think.

There is another possibility, as an outsider who has no knowledge of the guy. Is it possible this could be an ego thing for him? Is he perhaps enjoying the power he seemingly has over you? I am pretty sure you are gonna say no, I just thought I'd explore another possibility 'cos this situation is confusing the hell out of me. It's hard to tell where this guy's head is at, though I guess that's the reason why you need this chat.


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ramona
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USA
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Posted - 09/06/2004 :  15:52:00  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
He is going to be freaked out b/c he has no idea what is going on with me. As I think back on the situation over the last couple months (we hadn't talked in awhile and then started hanging out AS FRIENDS a bit in the spring, then I kind of pushed him away) and MY choice was to not talk to him for awhile, then I think it is going to weird him out for me to come back after MONTHS and be like, among other things, "hey, I have BIG feelings for you!"

It would/will just be OUT OF THE CLEAR BLUE SKY for him, which is why I am hestitating now. I am not sure what move I should make really. I think I am just going to come off as a crazy emotional girl and I am not sure that is the approach that is best.

I dunno.

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ramona
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Posted - 09/06/2004 :  15:55:19  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
PS. I really don't think it is an ego thing for him, b/c I do think he is pretty clueless. Maybe not clueless that I DID have feelings for him - but I think he is utterly unaware of what is up now. The fact that I am still thinking about him/feeling this way, etc.

I'm sorry its confusing you, - it is confusing to me too. And I am living it! This has been going on for two and a half years, and it is a very bizarre emotionally charged thing.

What would be your response if someone you really cared about called you up and proposed hanging out and having sex? Part of me just wants to do that to at least kind of start from a NEW and different place.

Oy. I can't stop obsessing. Ahh!

My brain hurts.

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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 09/06/2004 :  18:38:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ramona

What would be your response if someone you really cared about called you up and proposed hanging out and having sex?




The characterization "someone you really cared about" changes my perspective on your dilemma, Ramona. If he cares about you, chances are he won't shoot down your suggestion or dismiss you as emotional. Go for it! In my pre-marital life I *always* had success with the "direct approach." You're a babe, he's hetero, chances are he'll say "yes."

Fellas, what do you think?


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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 09/06/2004 :  22:48:59  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ramona

Thanks, Dietr. That is a big story - I hope it works out for you. You are obviously an awesome person b/c two girls who you think are amazing think you are amazing right back.

As for me, I will talk to him. I know that the ball is in my court now, so I am kind of just trying to figure out the best way to do things. I haven't talked to him in three months (which was my decision) and so it seems weird to call him up now and be like "hey, I love you!" His birthday is in a month. I am wondering about doing "le grande gesture" sometime around then. But, what do I do? What would make YOU admit that you love the girl who also scares you to death? Everything feels very scary and FINAL now...

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Well thank you for the compliment. It's much appreciated. Now here's an idea. Calling him and saying "hey, I love you!" could be intimidating, for both of you. If his birthday is in a month, you could do something along the lines of "le grande gesture" without it creating unbelievable amounts of awkwardness. Perhaps throw him a birthday party. You know, invite all the friends and whatnot. But don't have a surprise birthday party. Have him find a poster on his door tomorrow informing him of his big birthday bash. Any questions regarding the bash can be forwarded to you. Give him a month to think about why you would be in charge of his big day. If he asks, tell him because you want to. And when the party comes, it shouldn't be tense with others around, and if you feel it's time to talk to him about things, or remind him, there's always places to go away from the others. You say he's always fun, so he should be up for it. I dunno. Just something I thought about on my trip to Fargo.

On a side note, I just cut a bunch of my hair off while I was up there. It now looks like it belongs on Paul McCartney's head, circa 1963. Thought that was worth mentioning.
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 09/07/2004 :  00:03:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the way to a mans heart is through beer, food and you know what (in that order).

stock up on some corona, fire up the barbeque and put on a skirt. then make an excuse to invite him over

if he is not yours after that then this man is not heterosexual.


other suggestions:

seriously, there's nothing wrong with putting it out there that you're interested. as long as it's not TOO much. if you don't you're never going to find out.

why don't you invite him to a show, or a movie.. but make it casual. like, "my friend can't make it to this show/movie, are you interested?".. that works every time (cough).





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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2004 :  05:21:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I love the guys' advice, Ramona. It's golden. Whadaya think?

Proz... you gotta post a photo of the new haircut, dude! Pretty please!


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ramona
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USA
3988 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2004 :  06:12:15  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I like both suggestions. The only problem I see is that I sort of cut off contact with him prior to MY birthday and so to now call him up and be like "wanna hang out?" - doesn't that make me seem completely crazy??

The other option is that I am friends with both him (in therory!) and his roomate and since they live so close, I can show up there randomly. We have both been known to "pop in" so that wouldn't be completely out of the blue. Or would it?

I am schitzo! Help!

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ramona
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USA
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Posted - 09/07/2004 :  06:44:45  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Had to post my spooky horoscope for today -

Are you ready? Of course not. But if you wait till you feel fully ready, you will be waiting for many more moons. What you are is "ready to stop worrying about whether or not you are ready." And that, as it happens, is ready enough. Over the next few days, as the cosmic picture changes, the need to be clear and decisive will increase. Something has to be stopped. Something else has to be started. The circumstances are not ideal but nor are the difficulties insurmountable. Make the effort and trust your judgement. And fear not. Whatever you decide will somehow, magically turn out to be the right thing!

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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/07/2004 :  10:25:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just say to him...........

hey
been trying to meet you
hey
must be a devil between us
or whores in my head
whores at my door
whores in my bed
but hey
where
have you
been if you go i will surely die
we're chained

uh said the man to the lady
uh said the lady to the man she adored
and the whores like a choir
go uh all night
and mary ain't you tired of this
uh
is
the
sound
that the mother makes when the baby breaks
we're chained

If that doesn't work then forget about him, he's not worth it. Boy I wish some girl I liked would do that for me.


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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2004 :  10:38:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
HMP, that is fucking brilliant. Why didn't I think of that? That's perfect.


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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
17125 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2004 :  10:42:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks, even though Frank didn't write it as a love song, it seems like the greatest one ever to me. I love it so much.

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ramona
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USA
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Posted - 09/07/2004 :  10:45:25  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage  Reply with Quote


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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/07/2004 :  10:54:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well if nothing else then, it made you smile. Of that I am glad. It's nice to make people smile. Come on everyone, SMILE!

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ramona
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USA
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Posted - 09/07/2004 :  11:04:19  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I thought it was nice. Am feeling very overwhealmed and daunted otherwise. I don't know what to do. I kind of don't want to do anything. I just think I am going to appear WACKO no matter what.

Feh.

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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/07/2004 :  11:13:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You HAVE to do something Emona Ramily. You will regret it forever if you do nothing. If you do something and it doesn't turn out the way you hope, you can at least move on with your life.

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ramona
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USA
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Posted - 09/07/2004 :  11:33:54  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I know. My options are just limited. Blaaah.

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Broken Face
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USA
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Posted - 09/07/2004 :  11:43:53  Show Profile  Visit Broken Face's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i agree w/ floop at this point - i'd say to him something along the lines of "look, i know things were weird, i was in a weird spot in my life. i have an extra ticket to ____ and _____ couldn't make it, would you like to come?" and have beer waiting at the apt. afterwards :) if that goes well, work in a few more hanging out just you and him times, and if it seems doable, then share "it all" - and if you're half as awesome in person as you seem online, he'll be putty in your hands - good luck!

-brian


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ramona
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USA
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Posted - 09/07/2004 :  12:19:15  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Brian.

Thanks all yous guys. You have really been sweet to me AND helpful. I realize I am a crazy girl and this is confusing and hard to follow. I appreciate that any of you even cared enough to read my blatherings at all.

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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/07/2004 :  12:33:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We're for you Emona Ramily! Always!

And that goes for everyone else too. We're a close knit community and we need to look after each other in these crazy times. No problem too big for us, share with the class and let's see if we can help.

Let's spread the love people!

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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
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Posted - 09/07/2004 :  15:26:33  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I second that. Or third that. Whatever. Add one to the number of times that sentiment's been addressed.
And I'll try to post a picture, kathryn.
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kathryn
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Belgium
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Posted - 09/07/2004 :  17:28:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The public awaits!


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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1186 Posts

Posted - 09/08/2004 :  03:00:18  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Okay. Here's the old hair cut, taken with my bandmate earlier that day.

Picture deleted.

It was raining. I'm the camera shy guy on the right. Here's my hair now.

Picture deleted.

It's the best picture I could find. My friend said it reminded her of Oasis. She's not my friend anymore. You can find more pictures of my hair and band at http://prozacrat.dmusic.com. Really, I don't think my hair is that interesting.



Yeah. I took the pictures out. I felt bad. We're supposed to be helping Ramona with her man-problems, and here I am, posting pictures of myself in this thread. Bad Dietr. Bad, bad Dietr. Go to the link above if you really want to see them. Back to the topic at hand. Ramona?

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whoreatthedoor
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Spain
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Posted - 09/08/2004 :  03:24:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If your hair wasn't interesting, why took you the time to post your pictures, you bloody narcisist


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kathryn
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Belgium
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Posted - 09/08/2004 :  10:18:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think they're lovely pictures and it's a lovely haircut.


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prozacrat
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1186 Posts

Posted - 09/08/2004 :  10:45:23  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whoreatthedoor

If your hair wasn't interesting, why took you the time to post your pictures, you bloody narcisist


"¿Qué estás buscando? ¿Te gustaría multiplicarte por diez, por cien?, ¿Estás buscando adeptos? ¡Busca ceros entonces!"



Hey! There was a request! And it helps me get over my strong aversion to having my picture taken/having people see my picture. I'm involved in music and theatre (but not musical theatre!) and I've had to have my picture taken for both. Often. And I always hated it. Partly because, as you mentioned, I find photographs of myself to be a terribly narcisistic concept. I'm trying to get over it. So now, if someone says "let's see a picture," I try to do it, rather than my old standby of saying no and crying a little.

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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
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Posted - 09/08/2004 :  10:51:08  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Big improvement dude. Not Oasis so much, which must come as a relief.

Emily: further to floop's comments, looking at your bio-pic I wonder if he's not heterosexual anyway.

I'm very smooth me.


So, I finally got my X-Wing

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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/08/2004 :  11:19:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I actually prefered it pre-cut, not that it's bad now. You both look like you should be in a band in that first picture. You got the look, but can you play?

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prozacrat
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USA
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Posted - 09/08/2004 :  11:27:56  Show Profile  Visit prozacrat's Homepage  Click to see prozacrat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Homers_pet_monkey

I actually prefered it pre-cut, not that it's bad now. You both look like you should be in a band in that first picture. You got the look, but can you play?

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My link to my homepage on my bio page will let you judge for yourself. We've got plenty of music there. It's not up to me to say whether or not I can play. We look kind of rock & roll in the picture posted above, which we do, but it's not our forte, if you know what I mean. We leave the real rock & roll to the Pixies.
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ramona
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USA
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Posted - 09/09/2004 :  10:41:23  Show Profile  Visit ramona's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cheeseman1000

Big improvement dude. Not Oasis so much, which must come as a relief.

Emily: further to floop's comments, looking at your bio-pic I wonder if he's not heterosexual anyway.

I'm very smooth me.



Aw, how nice. I should tell y'all that this all started two years ago when he was puttin' the moves (albeit his kinda lame moves) on me. So he is heterosexual and he did (and hopefully still does) care about me. We were friends too. First.

I don't know. It's all hard to explain!

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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 09/09/2004 :  10:47:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
maybe he was confused about his sexuality at that phase, and has now realized his full gayness ?



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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/09/2004 :  11:09:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, and now he drinks like you floop!

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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Iceland
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Posted - 09/09/2004 :  11:11:28  Show Profile  Visit Cheeseman1000's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What, using a java jacket?


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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 09/09/2004 :  11:28:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ramona, see if he uses java jackets. that will answer all your questions



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