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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
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Posted - 08/28/2004 : 20:11:20
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So, I am lonely and feeling sad so I am posting this, which I will probably regret later but I thought someone might have some great insight (although I am terribly skeptical).
As all problems seem to begin, there is this boy... basically I know that even though I often feel like he is The One (if there is such a thing) - it is not going to happen. I believe that he cares about me a lot but is very scared and all kinds of broken and I am trying really hard to get over it even though I love him and feel like he is It.
The worst part is, he lives a block away from me. I saw him today and he saw me but neither of us did anything (looked at each other, moped away sadly) and it is really sad. I wonder how it is possible to get over someone when you walk of your door and see them or see their car, their house, their roommate (who I am friends with, btw), etc. It sucks. I don't understand why it is happening at all - it seems so obvious, we care about each other, etc. But he is not ready and I can't keep putting myself out there.
Now I am rambling. I just really wanted any insight or thoughts anyone had. I am really sad and heartbroken so please be nice to me.
Thanks. Em
_____________________________________________________________________ You`re where you want to be, I`m where I want to be Caught up chasing everything I`ve ever wanted I replace you easily, replace pathetically, I flirt with any flighty thing that falls my way. But how I needed you, when I needed you. Let`s not forget we are so strong, so bloody strong.
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
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Posted - 08/28/2004 : 20:27:14
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Oh Em, I am so sorry. I don't know if anything I could say could help at all, but I can only tell you that I felt similarly for a boy that I rode the bus with every day in high school. We became very good friends, but always there was this tension. It seemed obvious that my feelings were known to him, but nothing ever happened. We remained close through relationships, over many years. The weird electricity between us was scary, I think. But there was always a pulling away and frustration and even anger. I felt like I'd been refused repeatedly. Strange thing was, I knew from very early on that we would be married one day. But then, I hated the whole idea of marriage.
Cut to 16? years later...we've been together for 7 years, married for 3, and happier than I could ever have hoped to be, with the best, most wonderful friend and person I have ever known. All I can say is, there are strange things that happen in this world, and strong deep feelings can work amazing things. Whether or not this boy is the one, if the feelings and the relationship (however buried) is what is right, it may come to pass.
This relationship has been a major focus of my life, and it amazes me to this day that we managed to finally be together, though I tried many times to forget it out of doubt and frustration.
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SpudBoy
= Cult of Ray =
Equatorial Guinea
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Posted - 08/28/2004 : 20:40:31
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So here is the other side of that story. I was, as you may know, the young fellow in question in apl's post. I will first give this disclaimer: this may not be a universal condition, but it is my own experience. I'm stupid. I had a hundred hints thrown my way but felt so outclassed by this amazing woman that there was no way she could have meant *that* - she must just be trying to be nice. Plus, any advances on my part might make me lose the best friend I have, which was a death warrant to an antisocial geek like myself-at-the-time. I was scared and all kinds of broken, as you say. I do not wish to instill false hope, as each case is different, but that's where I was. So, after a few years of crawling out of that and establishing myself as an acceptable (if somewhat tainted) human being, I stopped being such a fucking chicken. And now I'm happy. At last.
Print this out and hang it up on the fridge then invite him over to see your stamp collection, or just let things unfold naturally. Before I had unwound a lot of my own neuroses, I don't know if any relationship would have lasted due to my own self destructive nature. So, now may not be the right time - I don't know the personalities involved. I wish you the best of life.
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mattb
= Cult of Ray =
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Posted - 08/28/2004 : 21:09:30
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quote: Originally posted by ramona
So, I am lonely and feeling sad so I am posting this, which I will probably regret later but I thought someone might have some great insight (although I am terribly skeptical).
As all problems seem to begin, there is this boy... basically I know that even though I often feel like he is The One (if there is such a thing) - it is not going to happen. I believe that he cares about me a lot but is very scared and all kinds of broken and I am trying really hard to get over it even though I love him and feel like he is It.
The worst part is, he lives a block away from me. I saw him today and he saw me but neither of us did anything (looked at each other, moped away sadly) and it is really sad. I wonder how it is possible to get over someone when you walk of your door and see them or see their car, their house, their roommate (who I am friends with, btw), etc. It sucks. I don't understand why it is happening at all - it seems so obvious, we care about each other, etc. But he is not ready and I can't keep putting myself out there.
Now I am rambling. I just really wanted any insight or thoughts anyone had. I am really sad and heartbroken so please be nice to me.
Thanks. Em
_____________________________________________________________________ You`re where you want to be, I`m where I want to be Caught up chasing everything I`ve ever wanted I replace you easily, replace pathetically, I flirt with any flighty thing that falls my way. But how I needed you, when I needed you. Let`s not forget we are so strong, so bloody strong.
Ramona,
I want to reiterate most of what spudboy said. I'd disagree that guys are stupid but the things that girls think are completely obvious are sometimes lost on guys. The way I see it you have two types of guys. Both are lost on what girls mean but you have the type who is too self conscious to act on what they perceive is a girl flirting with them and then the type that still aren't sure if a girl is into them sometimes but decide to make a move anyway even though they might get shot down.
Honestly, the only thing that will show a guy you are into them to make it completely obvious is to start grabbing their dick or start making out or tell them exactly what you're thinking. Seriously, anything else you do besides that will be a waste of time to a guy who is too scared or clueless to take a chance. I'm the type who doesn't mind taking a chance and most times it's worked out in my favour but here are a few examples to show you how completely oblivious I can be sometimes:
- telling a girl who just told me I can sleep over, "I'm tired, can you go to your room so I can go to sleep on the couch and turn off the tv?"
- A girl asking me to rub lotion on her back after she got a sunburn and saying it will be easier with her bra off and me saying, "nah, you don't have to do that, it's ok"
See what I mean?
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hammerhands
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1594 Posts |
Posted - 08/28/2004 : 21:20:25
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Men are troglodytes, brave faced and all, but have no born social graces.
Anger, confusion and energy without release, often manifested as self-destructive or asocial aggression, with a belief that they are truly alone, AND they are without the capacity or outlet to relate. |
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cindy lou
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Posted - 08/28/2004 : 22:03:24
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ramona,
a beautiful post you make.
my mother told me that when she met my father she knew he was the one. so she made sure he got his shit together by moving away and going to college in sasquatwen (after they had a few romantic dates walking in trainyards under moons... no lies, true story!!) whilst my papa whiled away in b.c. she did this so that he would get serious and ask her to marry her! and he did. my father couldn't live without her so he chased her down and got down on bended knee. my mother is brillant. now they have been married for 30 yrs and they live on a beautiful lake and go for nighley swims in the midngiht hours of summer.
anyways good luck and have some fun!
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
11687 Posts |
Posted - 08/29/2004 : 00:43:53
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Wait, wait, wait... sorry to digress, Ramona, but is Spudboy = Mr. Apl? or did this similar situation occur to both of you?
"When 5000 posts you reach / Look as good you will not, hmmm?" |
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
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Posted - 08/29/2004 : 01:11:30
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I was considering to tell you some story about me and a girl, but my loving life is a complete mess, so I can only give you a good advice:
DON'T LET HIM GO AWAY!!!
I wish you the best in that relationship.
"¿Qué estás buscando? ¿Te gustaría multiplicarte por diez, por cien?, ¿Estás buscando adeptos? ¡Busca ceros entonces!" |
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Little Black Francis
> Teenager of the Year <
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Posted - 08/29/2004 : 01:15:58
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China dolls should come with instructions
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oui?
China dolls should come with instructions Perfect cinematography
Now, for the bad. It has a name: Daniel Wu. What, the fuck, was Ching Siu-Tung thinking? This guy can make a comatose patient wake up just to turn off the TV. If his endless monologues were any more monotone, you'd take them for background noise. He cannot act. He cannot act. He cannot act. Maybe he can model. I also mentioned that the love story destroyed the nice lesbian interaction that was really happening if they had the wits to develop it. This film would have become an instant classic if (1) Daniel Wu was grotesquely murdered during the opening credits sequence, (2) Anya and Maggie had an explicit lesbian scene, and (3) Cheng Pei-pei got to fight it out with the main bad guy. So there you have it; as it is, the film falls short of its lofty goals.
Floops quesedillas zijn te vergelijken met het likken van fatsige Albert's aars nadat hij een fles laxeermiddel heeft leeggedronkenhehehahhahehehaha |
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Posted - 08/29/2004 : 05:40:09
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Ramona, You have to let your fellings do what they want, if you know he is the one don´t let that escape! When I met my husband I knew he was the one(I believe there is such thing!), and now we are married for 13 years and I still feel the same as I did.
I wish you the best, and go for it or you will never know!
"I want to live on an abstract plain, I need a new address, I want some new terrain, is it north or south?I want to live on an abstract plain...tell me I´m not insane!" |
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pfeffa
= Cult of Ray =
Aruba
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Posted - 08/29/2004 : 05:50:50
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Apl and Spudboy are precious! What a cute story!
Ramona, best of luck to you. I'd follow everyone's advice...he probably is scared and shy. |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
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Posted - 08/29/2004 : 10:18:20
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Thanks, y'all.
There is (probably obviously) a lot more to my story and really this has been going on for two years and things HAVE happened with him and we have had some good (but mostly hard) conversations about US. I met him when he was dating a good friend of mine and we were friends for like three years, and then neighbors, and then something else. Blah blah blah> Basically he KNOWS that he hurts my feelings, he KNOWS there is something more going on then friendship, but he always comes around and tries to be friends when it is obvious to us both there is more. Then I try to get closer, and he gets scared and pulls away. Finally around my birthday I made it clear I didn't want him at my party b/c I just keep getting hurt and here we are a month later.
It's all sad to me because it is COMPLETELY FUCKING OBVIOUS that there is big feeling there, but I can't keep putting myself out there to get rejected again.
ANYWAY, I thank you all for your opinions and help, I really appreciate it.
Apl and Spud, that is a great beautiful story! I wish I had more hope for my stupid boy, but he is 35 and I fear he may never grow up and stop being a chicken.
XXX, Em
PS. LBF, I have no idea what that means. ??
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
4800 Posts |
Posted - 08/29/2004 : 12:07:40
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quote: Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
Wait, wait, wait... sorry to digress, Ramona, but is Spudboy = Mr. Apl? or did this similar situation occur to both of you?
Where'd all that other bit of your nice post go? Yeah, SpudBoy = Mr. Apl/Apl = Mrs. SpudBoy. I think it came up in a thread about Columbus a while back, can't remember.
Ramona, that sounds absolutely maddening. Very tough place to be. Best wishes to you darlin'.
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
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Posted - 08/29/2004 : 12:19:19
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I think I remember hearing that b/c it wasn't a shock to me. Are there any little Spudboy's/Apl's in the world? I think not.
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Posted - 08/29/2004 : 13:14:42
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do you think even if you got together now you'd forget the previous hurts? I spent a long long time with the hope that my ex and I, who I believed was 'the one', would fix over our problems and be ok, but then I guessed the hurt would never go away, and I'm slowly letting go, and I'm saddened to say, slowly realising he doesn't hurt about it at all
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the room smelled like cupids gym
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Posted - 08/29/2004 : 13:18:36
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(ps, mine's 32, they never do)
the room smelled like cupids gym
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
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Posted - 08/29/2004 : 14:10:39
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quote: Originally posted by apl4eris
quote: Originally posted by Cult_Of_Frank
Wait, wait, wait... sorry to digress, Ramona, but is Spudboy = Mr. Apl? or did this similar situation occur to both of you?
Where'd all that other bit of your nice post go? Yeah, SpudBoy = Mr. Apl/Apl = Mrs. SpudBoy. I think it came up in a thread about Columbus a while back, can't remember.
Ramona, that sounds absolutely maddening. Very tough place to be. Best wishes to you darlin'.
Crazy, I can't believe I didn't know for some reason (though there's no reason I should've known). The rest of the post was sort of drivel and not very relevant, it just felt that way at the time 'cause of all the stuff I was on last night from having my wisdom teeth out, part of my jaw sawed out, and my sinus cavity pierced.
Today, I'm trying to move to light painkillers so that I can go to work tomorrow...
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
USA
4800 Posts |
Posted - 08/29/2004 : 14:39:34
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Nope, no little ones yet, Em. Still haven't determined whether we should bring little'uns into the world, for many reasons. Part of each of us would love to.
And darnit you guys, we are not cute! Ack, it's because of the school bus, isn't it? Love at first sight does seem pretty hokey, I admit. But seriously, it was pretty far from precious, considering that there was a lot of turmoil and pain on both sides, for many years, that generated a lot of confusion and the neuroses which led to our difficulties. All that may have served to make for a stronger relationship, but at the time it was frequently torturous and miserable, mixed with occassional mean 'ol hope. Not knowing what the other felt or wanted, we gave up on each other (consciously, anyway) off and on through those years, many times over. Somehow the bond lasted though, and we remained close friends. Thankfully.
Of course now I look back on all that and wouldn't change a single aspect of my often miserable life, because we might not have ended up being together, as the kind of people that we are now. A lot was learned. Then again, maybe it was all part of some cosmic accident or wise-ass joke. Our schoolbus driver was just like Chef from South Park. no lie.
[edit]Sorry I didn't mention it to you, Dean - for some reason I thought I had at one point. That surgery sounds like a bitch - I had 4 removed at once about a year ago, Dr. Dork yanked and yanked, but couldn't get one of the roots, and then I got dry sockets. Holy crap, the PAIN! Hope you feel better real soon! |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 08/29/2004 : 14:47:43
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I think I have a big ability to forgive and that isn't even really the issue for me now. I think if we DID somehow get together now, my main fear would be that he would get scared as we got closer and then run away in a year or two down the road. He was with my friend for five years and could never really "get there" but as even she has said, everyone thinks that is b/c she wasn't The One. I guess if there really is a ONE then it is destined to work out. If not, then not.
Mostly I am just wondering how I can possibly get over this when he lives 10 houses away for me. He is so close, but so so far.
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 08/29/2004 : 14:49:46
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quote: Originally posted by Tre
do you think even if you got together now you'd forget the previous hurts? I spent a long long time with the hope that my ex and I, who I believed was 'the one', would fix over our problems and be ok, but then I guessed the hurt would never go away, and I'm slowly letting go, and I'm saddened to say, slowly realising he doesn't hurt about it at all
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the room smelled like cupids gym
My post was in response to this, btw. I forgot to QUOTE. Whoops.
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Posted - 08/29/2004 : 15:06:48
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I guess the fact that I live far away from *** makes it easier, my heart would perma-ache if he was here, everytime I talk to him on the phone there's a pang, it's getting less so... sending you good vibes, hoping it works out, off to find some more tissues
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Posted - 08/29/2004 : 15:22:01
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poor andy, matters of the heart are the fucking worst, and nothing feels more humiliating than feeling alone
I understand.
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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 08/29/2004 : 16:13:02
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I thought ramona was married.
I also thought her name was Susan?
Was there a Susan on the board for a while?
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Weird.
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mereubu
= FB QuizMistress =
USA
2677 Posts |
Posted - 08/29/2004 : 18:34:38
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I bet you're thinking of Suzanne--zanni67. Alas, she has moved on.
Em, I'm so sorry about your continuing sadness about the Motard. I wish I could fly up there and scream "Snap out of it!" at him. I guess that at this point there's no chance of having a Big Talk with him just so that you can at least get some closure, is there? I wish he knew that people on two continents are disgusted with his lame behavior. You deserve much better from him.
*sigh* I know that I'm not saying anything new here. I just want good things for you, dear. Mwah!
P.S. Dean, hope you feel better soon! Remember, narcotics are you friend.
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 08/29/2004 : 19:01:57
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this may or may not be helpful (i'm no expert in these matters) but have you thought about the possibility that he may actually be Spiderman, and feels he can't have a relationship with you for the sake of your safety?
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
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Posted - 08/29/2004 : 19:09:03
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ok, sorry. just trying to bring some lightness to the topic.
honestly, it sounds to me like it might be time to move on. but i don't know, so don't listen to me. i just remember you bringing up this guy, and this situation, quite a while ago (if i'm not mistaken)..
persistance is a good thing. but eventually you have to decide if you're wasting your time or not, and move on (as hard as that may be), for your own sake.
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 08/30/2004 : 07:36:14
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Yes, I did bring this up a long time ago, you are right. It has been two years really of the same thing. And I would LOVE to move on - which is kind of the point of the topic. How do I do that when he keeps getting thrown in my path? Eventually (hopefully a year from now) I will LITERALLY move, but until then, we are a block away from each other - our circles intersect, etc. It's very hard and sad.
Also, the Spiderman comment is very funny. Thanks! My old boyfriend did look a lot like Tobey Maguire, funnily enough.
Thank you, Mereubu! I heart you muchly. And you have helped me a TON - you also came up with the name The Motard which shall follow him forever. Cause he IS one...
Andy, I'm sorry you are sad. Did you get my email?
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floop
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Mexico
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Posted - 08/30/2004 : 09:59:41
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quote: Originally posted by ramona
Yes, I did bring this up a long time ago, you are right. It has been two years really of the same thing. And I would LOVE to move on - which is kind of the point of the topic. How do I do that when he keeps getting thrown in my path? Eventually (hopefully a year from now) I will LITERALLY move, but until then, we are a block away from each other - our circles intersect, etc. It's very hard and sad.
i know how that is. my ex-girlfriend, up until recently, lived literally 3 blocks away from me. that made things hard after the breakup because i would run into her here and there.
now she lives in Ireland where she'll, most likely, break some poor Irish lad's heart.
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Posted - 08/30/2004 : 10:06:14
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ex's suck, there should be a room 101 built for them and they should be left in there to fuck with each others heads.... not that I'm bitter you understand
***rocks to and fro***
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/31/2004 : 06:04:18
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I hate to read stories like this, it breaks my fucking heart to hear about unrequited love, I did even before I suffered the same thing myself. It can be both the most amazing gift in this world and the most horrible, crippling disease if it is not reciprocated. I still carry it for my ex and it hurts so much just to hear a song we discovered together, see a wine we used to drink together, smell the perfume she used to wear or see a program or film set in New York (the place where it all started to go wrong), so I can only imagine how hard it must be to see the person you love all the time in your situation.
I don't believe it is better to have loved and lost than it is to have never loved at all, and so likewise I also don't believe it is better to have loved but not had it returned as in your case (my case was a mixtuire of the two). I don't see this situation changing for you much right now 'cos if he loved you then he would want to be with you no matter what, that's certainly how I feel now, even after all I have been through, I would still give anything to have her back, even though I know the chances of her ever loving me are slim. It's gonna be hard for you to move on, and perhaps you won't until you meet someone else. That's the one thing that keeps me going, knowing that hopefully, some day, I will meet someone else and be able to move on with my life fully.
I really hope you meet someone soon Emily, I hope I do, I hope we all do. I am sure that like me, you have an amazing amount of love to give someone. Love is the greatest thing in the world when it is felt by both parties, and being a romantic, I like to think it's the reason we were put on this earth. Do your very best to move on as much as possible, I would even move physically to get away from him. I know some people would question why you should have to do this, but if they do then they have never been in this kind of situation. When you are desperate you will do anything and if my ex lived near me then I know I would move in a second to get away from the constant reminders.
Be strong Emily and I really really hope that fate has a better hand to deal you next time.
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
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Posted - 08/31/2004 : 07:48:29
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Thank you, Homer.
The absolute WORST part of my situation is that it has been confirmed to me many times that he DOES care about me. He is very scared and very broken (like I said above). If I just thought it was a situation where I loved him and he didn't love me back, it would be a lot easier to deal with. What I believe is that he is too scared to even try. Hard to explain, but I guess you'll just have to trust me there.
Anyway, thanks again everybody for all your love and support. I do appreciate it lots!
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/31/2004 : 08:45:05
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Care or love? My ex cared for me but it isn't enough is it?
I dunno, maybe this guy is different in that he can love someone but not allow that love to be revealed and to blossom when he knows he is being loved back. Seems pretty masochistic to me if that is how this guy is.
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
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Posted - 08/31/2004 : 08:58:40
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Love.
He's broken. He's scared. I can't explain it more than that, except to say that that is the reason it sucks and why I am so sad.
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/31/2004 : 09:09:18
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Boy, this is a new one for me so I guess I can no longer help. I genuinely feel for you though Emily, and I really wish I could talk with this guy. He needs help with this as much as you it seems.
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
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Posted - 08/31/2004 : 09:19:20
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He needs more help then me - he needs a kick in the junk. It is nice to know that people AROUND THE WORLD think he is an idiot though. That does kind of help, in some weird way.
Thanks, Homer.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/31/2004 : 09:28:38
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Anytime. I like that fact that people here acknowledge the fact that they trust people here and realise that we care enough to share their problems with us. Maybe we can help, maybe we can't, but showing we care helps in some way I think. So yeah thank you Emily for trusting us.
Did that just sound like the end of an episode of Jerry Springer or He-Man? It's always hard not to sound corny. It's a thin line.
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