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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -
USA
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 Posted - 07/28/2004 : 16:48:29
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I'm not sure how many people are like me when it comes to this...so..here we go:
I could never be with anyone who had shitty taste in music and wasn't willing to change even when exposed to the likes of the Pixies and whatnot. Not in a million years.
I bring this up because a friend of mine was really upset and sad. I asked him why and he said, "My girlfriend and her friends are going to the Warped Tour or whatever." Ouch. That would hurt me like hell. I thought that maybe her friends made her go or something...I asked him. "Nope, she likes that kind of music.."
This guy was totally devastated. He only plays the best music when she's with him, so she knows what quality music sounds like. But she'd rather listen to Good Charlotte than the Beatles. I could never be with someone like that. I'd go crazy. I'd literally go crazy. Music is a BIG part of my life and to have to be subjected to shit music would literally ruin my life.
I don't know, could you be with someone who listened to what you consider the epitome of bad music? Even if they were insanely hot or whatever? I think peoples' taste in music reflects their intelligence to a pretty high degree. I respect everyone on this forum because you know good music. I hold you all to a higher standard.
Anywho, what are your thoughts on this? Care to add anything? Any experiences? Etc?
"Freedom is a state of mind and the condition and position of your ass. Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Funkadelic |
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PixieSteve
> Teenager of the Year <
Poland
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Posted - 07/28/2004 : 16:52:43
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| Hmm, I've never had a girlfriend. This is partly due to the fact that I don't know many girls who I fancy who like my kind of music. I guess this means I'm the same then. Although, it's not just music - it's lifestyle and culture which often comes with you music taste which affects relationships and such. |
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -
USA
1728 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2004 : 16:54:32
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Yes, yes of course. I'd never rate someone solely on music, but again, it is a big part for me.
"Freedom is a state of mind and the condition and position of your ass. Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Funkadelic |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2004 : 17:00:25
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even if Jennifer Connelly only listened to hip hop and boy bands, i'd still get in a relationship with her.
"Floop, take me to see Chambawumba"
"I already got tickets for us babe"
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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WolfManMikeLonely
= Cult of Ray =
USA
936 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2004 : 17:06:16
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Well I think even though I'm not big into Warped Tour I could find at least one great band on the line up to watch. Bad Religion is playing after all, along with Tiger Army and some other very good groups. I think the Descendents are even playing select dates.
"Hey fuck you if you don't like it."
-Johnny Thunders
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -
USA
1728 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2004 : 17:11:22
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I do like a lot of Bad Religion's stuff.
But this girl went for the Good Charlottes of the line-up. *shudder*
"Freedom is a state of mind and the condition and position of your ass. Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Funkadelic |
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betty
= Cult of Ray =
USA
258 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2004 : 17:18:40
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i disagree.
though there is a unique and special bond created by shared love and appreciation for the same music, i would not say that a love connection could not be made another way, that an intelligent person could not possibly have a different sonic preference. i dated a guy who absolutely loathed my music. it didn't bother me, and certainly wouldn't if he had said fb is a big douche. we laughed our asses off constantly!
as in the lovely difference of another, the fascination of opposites as well as similitudes.
dig it.
love,
betty
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TheCroutonFuton
- Mr. Setlists -
USA
1728 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2004 : 17:46:00
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Hahaha, I probably just need a life that involves more than sitting at home listening to and playing music, eh?
"Freedom is a state of mind and the condition and position of your ass. Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Funkadelic |
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
9168 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2004 : 22:05:33
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Well, I met my girlfriend partially through our similar musical tastes. I'd say it's important. Whether it's totally necessary, I'm not sure. I might be able to date a girl who had quite different taste in music, as long as they had similar tastes in other things.
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 07/28/2004 : 22:07:35
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| It's always nice when you can share hobbies...but couples don't have to share all of their interests to be compatable. My husband and I like a lot of the same music. The main difference is I am a Pixies fan and he's more of a Pearl Jam fan...it would be more fun if he was a fan like me at concerts and stuff because he's just sorta into it...but... mostly, I listen to music I like by myself so that doesn't get in the way. |
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Doog
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1220 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2004 : 04:42:11
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My last girlfriend liked Blink 182 and hated Beck. That sucked. But she did have a big thing for the Presidents Of The USA, which just about made up for that. Only lasted 2 months anyways, heheh..
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1688 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2004 : 04:50:51
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benji
> Teenager of the Year <
New Zealand
3426 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2004 : 05:23:17
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My wife and i share certain aspects of musical taste – but that’s generally restricted to the likes of Wham, Bon Jovi, Michael Jackson and Madonna etc – well all good 80’s pop music.
She is not a fan of FB/Pixies, but she doesn’t dislike them either, she’s just ambivalent about it.
I’ve taken her to several gigs with me and she’s enjoyed herself, but is not a huge music fan full stop so it doesn’t matter much.
The only band that I like that she hates is the Dirty Three, but I’ll allow that cause it’s a bit weird.
But honestly, I don’t think it’s important that my wife/girlfriend/partner isn’t as fanatical as I am.
I used too when I was younger, but then I realised that if I cut off such a huge proportion of the opposite sex purely based on their musical taste then I was kinda shooting myself in the foot. And I’m not an attractive enough guy to be able to pull that kinda stunt off!
As Daisy Girl said – couples do not have to share all the same interests – it would just get boring if they did I think – they’re gotta be some scope for learning and appreciating new things….
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Llamadance
> Teenager of the Year <
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/29/2004 : 06:16:16
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My wife sadly hates the Pixies with a passion. They are her least favourite group and if I play them she just gets really cranky and annoyed. She's doesn't mind FB, and we mostly meet in middle of the road stuff like Coldplay, Radiohead and REM.
Still it gives me a way to piss her off if I'm feeling cranky |
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Black_francis_
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
157 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2004 : 06:36:18
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Originally posted by Monsieur
I wouldn't care if my girlfriend listened to boy bands, especially if she's 13 years old.
thats disturbing |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2004 : 07:19:11
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my current girlfriend is actually a huge Wilco fan.
that's kind of a taboo subject, which we don't bring up.
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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ramona
"FB Quote Mistress"
USA
3988 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2004 : 08:53:01
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I think being with someone who LOVES MUSIC crazily like I do is a bonus, but sadly it doesn't always work out that way. Plus, there are benefits of being the music whore, b/c you can influence the other person with your musical tastes, especially if they are Musically Ambivilant.
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offerw
* Dog in the Sand *
South Africa
1264 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2004 : 08:59:26
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I've been with my partner for 7 years now. We've never listened to the same music except for Leonard Cohen and a few Tom Waits albums.
It is certainly not essential that the person sharing your bed shares your passion for Frank Black.
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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1162 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2004 : 09:27:34
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a person's taste, and ability to appreciate music (instead of just treating it like a fashion accessory or something to fill in the background) says a lot about the rest of that person.
if someone likes Linkin Park or System of a Down then i know they are an idiot who doesn't appreciate Skinny Puppy, and doesn't recognize the difference between good and crappy dark music.
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
17125 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2004 : 13:02:13
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Big shout goes out to floop and monsieur for making me laugh during this topic.
Interesting question this one, and one that I have thought about myself at times. I guess it would be ideal for her to like the same kind of music and the two girls I have dated have both been into similar music, although we have had quite a few differences too. This kept things interesting though, and it was never utter shite that they were into. If they liked truly awful music then I guess it would just be a bigger challenge.
If I fell for them, then there would be nothing I could do I guess except pray that I could convert them. I am pretty confident I could, in time.
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Malax
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1340 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2004 : 16:00:11
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Uh....Im not a good charlotte fan but whats to say that your taste in music is the right one? Unless she moans about how shit ALL your music is and stuff, it shouldn't be a problem. My last two girlfriends have both ripped mclusky, partly just to mess about with me and partly cos they don't get it. They liked greenday,incubus,stereophonics (old stuff) that kinda stuff. Which is ok.
You do find however people who are into stuff like hip hop (heavily) and dance you probably won't get on with to great anyway. My social life is based alot around the music I listen to.
I May've Joined The Cult Of Frank If I Knew What The Balls Was Going On.
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ObfuscateByWill
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1887 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2004 : 17:13:02
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Originally posted by floop
"Floop, take me to see Chambawumba"
"I already got tickets for us babe"
Chumbawamba.
I was just listening to "Pictures of Starving Children Sell Records..." in the car.
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My wife hates it.
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Maybe I'm the one with bad taste.
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~
Belize
5305 Posts |
Posted - 07/29/2004 : 17:36:00
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| hehe. i guess the good thing about listening to different music is that you can learn new stuff. One guy i dated was into hip-hop, knowledge rap and all that good underground stuff... I never would have liked/known about that genre about music. the guy I dated turned me on to so many cool groups. I have him to thank for a good part of the alternative music i like. Although I knew about the Pixies and had Doolittle and SR...I had no clue COP existed...until he played that for me ... I freaked! I had no clue it existed because none of our local record stores had it. |
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Posted - 07/30/2004 : 03:42:44
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I learned loads from my ex about music I would have never come accross and he learned lots from me too, one of the problems I had though was I loved gigs and he reckoned he was too old for them *rolls eyes* and he was a big aphex twin fan, so we were doomed from the start
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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1162 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2004 : 08:45:26
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Originally posted by Malax
Uh....Im not a good charlotte fan but whats to say that your taste in music is the right one?
there's good music and there's bad music. good charlotte is bad music, the clash and sex pistols are good music. if you don't understand this then i feel sorry for you.
i'm open minded enough that i appreciate any and all good music, even if i don't like it enough to go and buy every good CD in existence.
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You do find however people who are into stuff like hip hop (heavily) and dance you probably won't get on with to great anyway. My social life is based alot around the music I listen to.
there is good hip hop, but i can't think of any good dance music. basically because it's just an excuse to gyrate against each other, which strikes me as kind of repressive and a waste of time, i'd rather just fuck. |
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Malax
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
1340 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2004 : 10:38:45
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Hmmm, well, the sex pistols aren't that much different from good charlotte now are they? I consider the sex pistols to be shit, but I like the pixies, frank black, pavement, husker du etc etc. So what does that say?
As for your dance comment, what? A song that makes people flock to dance floors is generally gonna have to be semi decent. What about fatboy slim, chemical brothers, orbital, prodigy etc etc. Have they never had 1 good song?
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2004 : 10:40:29
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do people here dance much? i'm just curious..
i know dancing is more common in Europe (overall)..
i only dance when extremely drunk and/or am forced to by a girl.
ist es möglich für ein quesadilla skrotum zu lecken? beim sprechen der quesadillas von LBF, ja. ja in der tatheheheheheheehehee! |
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Posted - 07/30/2004 : 10:41:46
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as much as bugs me to agree with ebb. No, no they haven't. ick.
A shepards whistle will make his little sheep flock to their pen but I really wouldn't want to listen to it
Frank Black ate my Hamster
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2004 : 10:44:40
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quote:
Originally posted by Tre
A shepards whistle will make his little sheep flock to their pen but I really wouldn't want to listen to it
it might be cool to sample though
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Malax
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/30/2004 : 11:06:48
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What you mean is, YOU don't like any dance songs. Its not that there aren't any. To be honest I don't care, its not like Im defending 'my music' or anythin. I just think your being a little blinkered, which is odd for this board.
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Posted - 07/30/2004 : 11:16:51
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floop - I used to hate dancing, I hated clubs and I hated dancing, but then I found out I'd been going to the wrong clubs where they played dance music () or been going with the wrong people, the "posey" dancers, ugh. Since avoiding those clubs and realising dancing is more about throwing your body around and working those hips to how the music sounds, I now LOVE dancing, I dance at home I dance at work with the radio cranked up, get me to a decent club and you won't get me off the dance floor unless it's time for a new pint or I've run out of fags. I LOVE IT. wiggling around to good tunes makes me really happy. Unfortunately, in the clubs I go to it's a given they'll play RATM "killing in the name of"... if you're ever there you'll be treated to the amusing sight of tre playing mosh with the big boys... bruises a go go
Malax - I don't like dance music as a whole sorry, never heard a tune that does it for me and those bands you listed make my ears want to bleed, I don't think I'm blinkered, I jus have different taste I guess
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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1162 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2004 : 15:51:06
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Originally posted by Malax
Hmmm, well, the sex pistols aren't that much different from good charlotte now are they?
this just proves you lack the ability to appreciate music on an objective level. this is nothing to be all that ashamed of, there aren't that many people who can.
maybe i need to clarify a bit more?
1) most people only know if they "like" or "don't like" something. that's the end all be all of their musical tastes. they either like it or don't.
2) then there's people who can explain why they do like or why they don't like something. they can put into words, to some degree, what makes them enjoy a particular band or song. their tastes are still very subjective, they may dislike some song just because they don't like the person who wrote it, or just because they don't like the "type of person" who likes that sort of thing.
3) lastly, there's the very few people who can appreciate music on a truly objective level. they listen to a piece of music and filter out their own personal tastes and bias, and can offer an objective analyzation of the music. is this information useful to category 1 & 2? no, not really. it's only useful to other category 3 people, because they're the only other people who really understand the objective viewpoint. this is not to say they don't have personal tastes. they do, and it will be reflected in their own playlists (though sometimes, in pretentious people, not in their cd collection.) it's just that when talking about music, they can tell you if something is good or bad without their own taste interfering. btw, i've never read any music critic who fell into this category.
i like to think i'm in the third category. there's music i like thta is bad, and there's music i don't like that is good. i can appreciate the latter, though you won't find me singing along to it.
i don't mean to imply that everyone should be in the third category, or that it's the "best." i also realize that a lot of people will tell me i'm full of shit for whatever reason, but maybe at least one person who reads this will start on their path to appreciating music objectively. inevitably it leads to expanding your personal tastes.
edit: also no, there isn't any good fatboy slim or chemical brothers. they are all boring derivitive tripe. in the case of the former i'd rather listen to the original songs that he's sampling and in the latter case i'd rather listen to electronic music that wasn't concerned with drunk people being able to bounce around in time to it. |
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floop
= Wannabe Volunteer =
Mexico
15297 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2004 : 15:53:51
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but, it's all subjective buddy.
scholars can give me a million reasons why a classical piece by so and so is a brilliant piece of music, but if i don't like it i don't connect with it, i don't connect with it.
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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1162 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2004 : 15:56:20
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one more note before someone starts to go off on what is objective and what is not; just because you can argue about something doesn't mean it is not an objective value.
for instance, my assertion of "boring" above. yes you can argue about what is and what is not "boring". that does not mean that "boring" is not an objective value.
you can argue about what is "red" and what is not "red", but i can still say, objectively, that the cursive "frank black" above is red.
if you're confused please don't waste my time trying to argue with me. |
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Monsieur
* Dog in the Sand *
France
1688 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2004 : 15:57:16
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| Ebb Vicious, I would add that there is a fourth category of people, people who have read Kant and know that beauty is subjective (and universal). This category of people despises the third category. |
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Ebb Vicious
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1162 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2004 : 15:59:22
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Originally posted by floop
but, it's all subjective buddy.
scholars can give me a million reasons why a classical piece by so and so is a brilliant piece of music, but if i don't like it i don't connect with it, i don't connect with it.
thank you for totally missing my point.
again: that is your personal taste. you are not able (or are unwilling) to appreciate it on an objective level.
i can appreciate good symphonic, orchestral, chamber, etc. music on an objective level for its brilliance, innovation, etc. however i do find a lot of it unexciting and also do not particularly connect with most of it (which is why i stopped playing cello).
the two are separate. like i said several times already, most people cannot -- or just do not -- appreciate music objectively. there is no motivation to do so in our society.
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Originally posted by Monsieur
Ebb Vicious, I would add that there is a fourth category of people, people who have read Kant and know that beauty is subjective (and universal). This category of people despises the third category.
and the third category knows that the forth category is stupid and missing the point.
the third category is not evaluating the beauty. beauty is a complicated, subjective value. there are parts of beauty (symmetry, repetitiveness, derivitiveness, composition, colour, etc.) which can be evaluated objectively. however, taken as a whole, beauty is a subjective value.
however, beauty is not the only value to music. maybe it is the only value you that you care about, and the sole thing on which you base your opinion (though i highly doubt you are such a devout aesthete), but that is neither here nor there. again, you are speaking of personal taste and not objective evaluation.
instead of posturing by referrencing dead philosphers you should actually understand what i'm saying before replying again. |
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