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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6213 Posts |
 Posted - 07/30/2004 : 13:21:52
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yeah
it's all because of your wife!
but I guess that's cleared now
so let's not discuss that anymore
 "I joined the Cult of Frank/Nobody wanted to join my Culf" |
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2004 : 14:20:00
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Originally posted by billgoodman
yeah
it's all because of your wife!
I would slap her around for starting all this trouble but she would probably hurt me. |
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dogjones
- FB Fan -
USA
142 Posts |
Posted - 07/30/2004 : 14:52:49
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| from what ive heard i can only hope what's floating around isnt final cuz...well...not all the tracks are produced/mixed well. background noise, shrill as hell high end on some tracks, improper track ballance...like i said before, i'll hold off a "review" until i get a final pressed copy in my hands...etc etc etc |
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MMD
- FB Fan -
United Kingdom
233 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2004 : 21:25:17
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Haha screw the lot of you, I love these reworkings :). It's a really sparse sounding record and really refreshing. I think there are one or two weaker songs (Cactus, Veloria) but just listen to Where is my mind? or Into the White or The holiday song. After a few more listens I bet you guys will love it too.
Also check Soulseek if you still havent gotten a copy.
“Not since Orson Welles had one man so many fingers in so many pies, and been the chef as well. And then looked like he went and ate them all. The guy was out of control.” |
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
2873 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2004 : 11:24:14
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I always thought this reunion thing will be a break in FB&C career and then he'll go back with the boys and make new stuff. Now after hearing cactus I'm not sure about it. Maybe he wants to take a new way.
 "Join the Cult of the whore at the door / And You'll find no answers, but real fun" |
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Posted - 08/02/2004 : 11:37:44
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I don´t know but I think that if they break up (hope not), it´s because it must be like that. And Frank will continue doing better and better... Like he always does!
... I´m learning!... |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2004 : 15:57:11
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Looks like some of you people are getting your wish, almost. Latest estimates from Cooking Vinyl suggest that FBF could be held back up to two years, for various reasons.
The new FB album will be out sooner, but the Man's had to go back into the studio for a few retouches.
Kind regards,
Dr. Simon
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 08/02/2004 : 16:39:22
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Originally posted by Cheeseman1000
Looks like some of you people are getting your wish, almost. Latest estimates from Cooking Vinyl suggest that FBF could be held back up to two years, for various reasons.
The new FB album will be out sooner, but the Man's had to go back into the studio for a few retouches.
Woohoo! (on both accounts) |
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lgamar
- FB Fan -
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Posted - 08/02/2004 : 18:31:17
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It's a very good album. It should be released. It has great new aproaches. don't get me wrong. I'm not new to fb and i love almost anything he does and all that he's done so far. it doesn't look inferior to prior experiences.
thank you FB
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Apesy
= Cult of Ray =
USA
411 Posts |
Posted - 08/03/2004 : 18:03:14
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Originally posted by Cheeseman1000
Latest estimates from Cooking Vinyl suggest that FBF could be held back up to two years, for various reasons.
God dammit...
Why would they wait that long? What do you mean by "estimates"?
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
488 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2004 : 03:42:28
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Posted - 08/05/2004 : 10:18:20
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I´ve listened to the album today and found it very good!
I just think that Frank is trying new sounds, and that´s what´s so great about him!
... I´m learning!... |
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JamesM
= Cult of Ray =
308 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2004 : 16:53:40
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Aren't you able to read the above posts to know what the fuck the problem is?
I meant that more in terms of the terminology of "selling out" and "electronic music" - the album is neither; I guess my own problem is that I presuppose a minimum of reason with some people.
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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 08/05/2004 : 17:35:31
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by estimates he's means... a rather large gorilla sitting on an elephants back using a personal organiser
So the sentence should read, "Latest rather large gorilla sitting on an elephant's back using a personal organizer from Cooking Vinyl suggests that FBF could be held back up to two years, for various reasons."
Well, THAT clears it up, doesn't it? <g>
Cattle in Korea / They can really moo. |
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
2873 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2004 : 01:12:21
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I've heard Velouria today and it's not bad.
"Join the Cult of the whore at the door / And You'll find no answers, but real fun" |
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Posted - 08/06/2004 : 03:31:43
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Originally posted by whoreatthedoor
I've heard Velouria today and it's not bad.
"Join the Cult of the whore at the door / And You'll find no answers, but real fun"
You must listen the others!
They are very good
... I´m learning!... |
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
France
2715 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2004 : 04:00:39
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Just found this review at http://newflux.blogspot.com/2004/07/letter-in-your-writing-doesnt-mean.html (sorry if it's a repost):
Frank Black Francis & Two Pale Boys "Cactus" - This is a selection from the forthcoming Frank Black Francis project, which finds Frank Black reworking several Pixies classics with David Thomas' side men, Two Pale Boys. The record is mostly quite mellow, recasting familiar tunes with low-key, atmospheric arrangements. The best of the new versions play up ideas and themes which were already present in the material: "Monkey Gone To Heaven" is stripped of its bombast, and is set to music which would not sound out of place on an underwater documentary soundtrack; "The Holiday Song"'s lead guitar hook is replaced with festive horns; and "Caribou"'s chimey keyboards and woozy horns sound like a Beach Boys record played at half speed. Nothing on the record is an outright failure, but Black's version of the Kim Deal song "Into The White" does not sound particularly inspired by anything other than novelty, and the jazz/dub fusion on "Where Is My Mind?" already feels dated in spite of being quite pretty.
"Cactus" is the obvious highlight of the album for me, building on the skeletal arrangement of the original with looped backing vocals, a menacing bass chug, and occasional horn stabs. It captures the basic essence of the song, but feels even more desperate in its yearning and masochistic desire. The arrangement evokes a sense of vertigo and delirium, stomach churning neuroses and sweltering heat. It's the closest anything from this record comes to besting the original Pixies recording, and hints at a promising new direction for Black when he resumes his solo career after the current Pixies reunion.
- Matthew Perpetua, 7/5/2004
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Frog in the Sand
-+ Le premiere frog +-
France
2715 Posts |
Posted - 08/06/2004 : 04:24:59
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Oops, sorry - it's actually a repost. I knew I had already read that before... 
Join the Cult of Jon T. / and win your weight in cereals |
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
2873 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2004 : 08:02:30
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Originally posted by rita
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Originally posted by whoreatthedoor
I've heard Velouria today and it's not bad.
"Join the Cult of the whore at the door / And You'll find no answers, but real fun"
You must listen the others!
They are very good
... I´m learning!...
I haven't formed an opinion about the whole thing. This is very traumatic for me. I need some time.
"Join the Cult of the whore at the door / And You'll find no answers, but real fun" |
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Posted - 08/07/2004 : 14:24:52
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Originally posted by whoreatthedoor
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Originally posted by rita
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Originally posted by whoreatthedoor
I've heard Velouria today and it's not bad.
"Join the Cult of the whore at the door / And You'll find no answers, but real fun"
You must listen the others!
They are very good
... I´m learning!...
I haven't formed an opinion about the whole thing. This is very traumatic for me. I need some time.
"Join the Cult of the whore at the door / And You'll find no answers, but real fun"
I`ve listened a few times and I still think it´s a very good work.
I think that Frank wanted to show how this music that we all like so much can be listened in another prespective!
He can allways surprise me, and that´s what is so great about him!
(just my opinion)
... I´m learning!... |
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The OK Pope
- FB Fan -
USA
46 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2004 : 18:49:11
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I'm extremely disappointed by these re-workings to say the least, these mixes are awful. The album sounds so stripped-down. Definitely not digging the techno, or the trombone. It sounds like the whole album was recorded at about 10 BPM.
Oh, and kromkamp, you are correct in the tracks being cringeworthy. I actually cringed during Velouria. |
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Jason
* Dog in the Sand *
1446 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2004 : 18:57:47
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Originally posted by The OK Pope
It sounds like the whole album was recorded at about 10 BPM.
There are no beats. The Two Pale Boys are sans drums or drum machines. |
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The Holiday Son
= Quote Accumulator =
France
2010 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2004 : 01:22:28
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BTW I love Holiday Son
Thanks, I love you too Bill !
My faves from FBF are Caribou, Into the white and Wave of Mutilation.
I think Frank has never sung so well on those songs.
Cactus is the one I can't listen to. |
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Posted - 08/09/2004 : 02:04:06
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Into the white is very good!
What a voice!
... I´m learning!... |
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
2873 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2004 : 02:20:34
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Originally posted by rita
Into the white is very good!
What a voice!
... I´m learning!...
Is funny to hear Frank singing it. What about Gigantic?
"Join the Cult of the whore at the door / And You'll find no answers, but real fun" |
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Posted - 08/09/2004 : 02:43:36
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Is funny to hear Frank singing it. What about Gigantic?
"Join the Cult of the whore at the door / And You'll find no answers, but real fun"
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I really like them all! I think he´s a genious!
Gigantic is great!!!
... I´m learning!... |
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dogjones
- FB Fan -
USA
142 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2004 : 04:17:05
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kinda on/off topic...but whatever...if you kinda dig on the slower melodic soundscape style check out a 90s act called Codeine.
they did 2LPs and 1EP of really nice slowcore with a grunge-era edge...lovely minimal noise rock. and its 100% brass-section-free. |
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Posted - 08/09/2004 : 13:43:51
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Is it "Gigantic" on Franck Black Francis?
Couldn´t found yet!
... I´m learning!... |
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frank_black_francis
= Cult of Ray =
Canada
895 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2004 : 20:25:11
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
2873 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2004 : 23:47:50
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Originally posted by rita
Is it "Gigantic" on Franck Black Francis?
Couldn´t found yet!
... I´m learning!...
Gigantic isn't on it. I was only dreaming about a Frank's version of it.
"Join the Cult of the whore at the door / And You'll find no answers, but real fun" |
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Posted - 08/10/2004 : 03:46:32
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Originally posted by whoreatthedoor
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Originally posted by rita
Is it "Gigantic" on Franck Black Francis?
Couldn´t found yet!
... I´m learning!...
Gigantic isn't on it. I was only dreaming about a Frank's version of it.
"Join the Cult of the whore at the door / And You'll find no answers, but real fun"
Now I was confused! But I´ll try to dream on it... I guess it would sound very well!
Do you like FBF more now? After a few listens?
... I´m learning!... |
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darkoutsider
= Cult of Ray =
USA
285 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2004 : 16:57:02
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Originally posted by My Velouria
Really?? I did not hear them but if this does not sound like Frank Black I am not interested neither...I do not want Frank becoming commercial !! After this whole noisy and non-finishable Pixies reunion I hope Frank will come back like before !
Don't be selfish, share Frank. How else will we kill pop if you guys won't share good music with the Masses. Imagine the days when good music is the main stream and shit music is the underground. The way the world should be.
~*We lost contact and I hope that you don't mind. I was trying to save us both some time.*~ |
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heile
- FB Fan -
USA
42 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2004 : 00:23:54
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lonely persuader
= Cult of Ray =
Ireland
488 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2004 : 03:43:13
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hold on there.... i agree experiementing is well and good and neccessary but i would have though an artist as good as Frank could easily seperate the chaff from the wheat... as he says himself he owes fan at least the courtesy of not releasing all the stuff he comes up with, he would freely admit that its sort of a filtering process (and since he is undoubtly a genious songwriter), he comes up with more consistantly good (excellent)material than anyone else.... this electronic remixing shit, is exactly that....
1. after so many years of not playing pixies stuff. he seems to have gone one step too far in scraping the barrel of pixies material by re-recording (if i can call it recording) these tracks....
2. also after going back to the live recording process with the catholics and liking it so much (because of the realness of it and it not being a brushed up replica of a real suitation) why is he allowing this remixing, beep bob stuff... its completely outa character...
i dont mean to offend anyone's taste of music... but there is music you can respect even if you dont like it...
i own all of the pixies and frank blacks material, but this is one i wont be buying and its a shame (because of his consistant quality to date)......
is he following in bob mould's footsteps (great and consistant)... and then release some muck electronica "modulate" or something like that.... (they call it experimentation and thats fine, but its results that matter, dont release muck)...
people say that its all personal taste and music is subjective.... but everyone knows a good book from a bad book, or a well-written news paper from a tabloid and i believe music is the same..... |
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whoreatthedoor
> Teenager of the Year <
Spain
2873 Posts |
Posted - 08/12/2004 : 06:05:10
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After 19 years (???) in music business and still trying to make up new stuff... We should give some respect to the Man, even if you don't like this record.
P.S.: I haven't got enough time to burn it on CD, Rita, so I have only listened it one or two times (My family hates Frank, so I can only listen to it in my car). I don't have a formed opinion about the whole thing, but Velouria is quite a cool track.
"Join the Cult of the whore at the door / And You'll find no answers, but real fun" |
Edited by - whoreatthedoor on 08/12/2004 09:47:16 |
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I hope FBF is postponed forever
