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darwin
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
USA
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Posted - 07/28/2004 : 11:56:37
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quote: Originally posted by BLT
quote: Originally posted by darwin
What! No comments? Those are rats nursing off of a dog! Does nothing shock you people?
Where are the photos of a human sucking milk straight from a cow teat?
I saw Tom Green do that on his show. Pretty disturbing. |
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TheCroutonFuton
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Posted - 07/28/2004 : 11:58:50
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I don't think Tom Green qualifies as "human".
"Freedom is a state of mind and the condition and position of your ass. Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Funkadelic |
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Posted - 07/28/2004 : 12:19:28
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I'd say almost definately no, if he's a human then I want out
Frank Black ate my Hamster
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
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Posted - 07/28/2004 : 12:22:27
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What are you saying "Canadians are not humans". Grrrrrrr.
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Cult_Of_Frank
= Black Noise Maker =
Canada
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Posted - 07/28/2004 : 12:30:19
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Everytime I see this topic, I always get that lyric from the Unicorns in my head:
I lift weights, but I don't sweat I drink milk, but I'm not dead I don't care a... etc...
"When 5000 posts you reach / Look as good you will not, hmmm?" |
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Posted - 07/28/2004 : 12:31:55
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thats exactly what i'm saying. I've seen south park, I know the heads of canadians are hinged and flappy. And saddam husseins a canadian, south park told me. ()
Frank Black ate my Hamster
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Posted - 07/28/2004 : 12:36:38
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I don't like milk. I used to. I go through phases.
Frank Black ate my Hamster
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BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
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Posted - 07/28/2004 : 13:42:37
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Found it:
With Jim Carrey and all, I guess the law of averages was decidedly against Canada when Tom Green came along. |
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Posted - 07/28/2004 : 14:13:44
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I've done a sick in my mouth
Frank Black ate my Hamster
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Frog in the Sand
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France
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Posted - 07/29/2004 : 00:53:00
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Why dairy products won't help you maintain healthy bones
from http://www.milksucks.com/osteo.html
Building strong bones and keeping them that way is easier than you may have thought.
This Web page focuses on debunking a myth sold to the American public by a multibillion-dollar industry—an industry that has repeated its marketing message so often and for so long that most people now believe that dairy products are essential to bone health, despite extensive evidence to the contrary. The dairy industry has an army of dietitians, public relations consultants, and lobbyists on its payroll but does not have the evidence on its side.
The dairy pushers pay dietitians, doctors, and researchers to endorse dairy products, spending more than $300 million annually, just at the national level, to retain a market for their products. The dairy industry provides free teaching materials to schools and pays sports stars, celebrities, and politicians to push an agenda based on profit, not public health. Dr. Walter Willett, veteran nutrition researcher at the Harvard School of Public Health, says that calcium consumption via dairy-product intake "has become like a religious crusade," overshadowing true preventive measures such as physical exercise. To hear the dairy industry tell it, if you consume three glasses of milk daily, your bones will be stronger and you will be able to rest assured that osteoporosis is not in your future. Not so.
After examining all the available nutritional studies and evidence, Dr. John McDougall concludes: "The primary cause of osteoporosis is the highprotein diet most Americans consume today. As one leading researcher in this area said, 'eating a high-protein diet is like pouring acid rain on your bones.'" Remarkably enough, both clinical and population studies show that milk-drinkers tend to have more bone breaks than people who consume milk infrequently or not at all. For the dairy industry to lull unsuspecting women and children into complacency by telling them to be sure to drink more milk so that their bones will be strong may make good business sense, but it does the consumer a grave disservice.
Much of the world's population does not consume cow's milk, and yet most of the world does not experience the high rates of osteoporosis found in the West. In some Asian countries, for example, where consumption of dairy foods is low, fracture rates are far lower than they are in the United States and in Scandinavian countries, where consumption of dairy products is high.
While reading this, please remember that dairy products contain no complex carbohydrates or fiber but are packed with saturated fats and cholesterol and have been linked to heart disease, cancer, Crohn's disease, and a host of childhood illnesses from asthma to diabetes.
But don't take our word for it — examine the science for yourself. In one study, funded by the National Dairy Council, a group of postmenopausal women were given three 8-ounce glasses of skim milk every day for two years, and their bones were compared to those of a control group of women not given the milk. The dairy group consumed 1,400 mg of calcium per day and lost bone at twice the rate of the control group. According to the researchers, "this may have been due to the average 30 percent increase in protein intake during milk supplementation. ... The adverse effect of increases in protein intake on calcium balance has been reported from several laboratories, including our own" (they then cite 10 other studies). Says McDougall, "Needless to say, this finding did not reach the six o'clock news." This is one study that the dairy industry won't be repeating any time soon.
After looking at 34 published studies in 16 countries, researchers at Yale University found that the countries with the highest rates of osteoporosis—including the United States, Sweden, and Finland—were those in which people consumed the most meat, milk, and other animal foods. This study also showed that African-Americans, who consume, on average, more than 1,000 mg of calcium per day, are nine times more likely to experience hip fractures than are South African blacks, whose daily calcium intake is only about 196 mg. Says McDougall, "On a nation-by-nation basis, people who consume the most calcium have the weakest bones and the highest rates of osteoporosis. ... Only in those places where calcium and protein are eaten in relatively high quantities does a deficiency of bone calcium exist, due to an excess of animal protein."
Harvard University's landmark Nurses Health Study, which followed 78,000 women over a 12-year period, found that the women who consumed the most calcium from dairy foods broke more bones than those who rarely drank milk. Summarizing this study, the Lunar Osteoporosis Update (November 1997) explained: "This increased risk of hip fracture was associated with dairy calcium. ... If this were any agent other than milk, which has been so aggressively marketed by dairy interests, it undoubtedly would be considered a major risk factor."
A National Institutes of Health study at the University of California, published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2001), found that "women who ate most of their protein from animal sources had three times the rate of bone loss and 3.7 times the rate of hip fractures as women who ate most of their protein from vegetable sources." Even though the researchers adjusted "for everything we could think of that might otherwise explain the relationship ... it didn't change the results." The study's conclusion: "[A]n increase in vegetable protein intake and a decrease in animal protein intake may decrease bone loss and the risk of hip fracture."
Another study published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2000) looked at all aspects of diet and bone health and found that high consumption of fruits and vegetables positively affected bone health and that dairy consumption did not. Such findings do not surprise nutritional researchers: The calcium absorption rate from milk is approximately 30 percent, while figures for broccoli, Brussels sprouts, mustard greens, turnip greens, kale, and some other green leafy vegetables range from 40 percent to 64 percent.
After reviewing studies on the link between protein intake and urinary calcium loss, dairy industry researcher Dr. Robert P. Heaney found that as consumption of protein increases, so does the amount of calcium lost in the urine (Journal of the American Dietetic Association, 1993): "This effect has been documented in several different study designs for more than 70 years," he writes, adding, "The net effect is such that, if protein intake is doubled without changing intake of other nutrients, urinary calcium content increases by about 50 percent."
Researchers from the University of Sydney and Westmead Hospital discovered that consumption of dairy foods, especially early in life, is associated with increased risk of hip fractures in old age (American Journal of Epidemiology, 1994).
In Pediatrics (2000), published by the American Academy of Pediatrics, Pennsylvania State University researchers showed that calcium intake, which ranged from 500 to 1,500 mg per day, had no lasting effect on the bone health of girls in their teens. "We (had) hypothesized that increased calcium intake would result in better adolescent bone gain. Needless to say, we were surprised to find our hypothesis refuted," one researcher explained.
Finally, a review of all research conducted since 1985, published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2000), concluded: "If dairy food intakes confer bone health, one might expect this to have been apparent from the 57 outcomes, which included randomized, controlled trials and longitudinal cohort studies involving 645,000 person-years." The researchers go on to lament that "there have been few carefully designed studies of the effects of dairy foods on bone health" and then to conclude that "the body of scientific evidence appears inadequate to support a recommendation for daily intake of dairy foods to promote bone health in the general U.S. population." What we do know is that osteoporosis rates decline markedly as body weight, exercise, and caloric intake rise. Corroborating the researchers' concerns about poorly controlled studies, only three studies have factored caloric intake into the analysis. Two of these studies found no correlation between dairy intake and osteoporosis, but the other found a positive link; that is, the more milk, the higher the fracture risk (Harvard Nurses Study, above). The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2000) study cited above argued that since it's clear that total caloric intake and body weight are positively associated with bone mass, such factors are "particularly important" in any study of osteoporosis and bone mass.
Is the dairy industry ignoring these factors by design in its clinical studies, perhaps because dairy-product consumers tend to be heavier and have a higher caloric intake than those consuming fewer (or no) dairy products? Despite the fact that so many dairy researchers ignore this information, most studies still show no correlation between cow"s milk consumption and a lower risk for osteoporosis, and some actually indicate that milk is associated with an increased risk. Perhaps if these factors were taken into account, the studies indicating no link would instead show, in fact, that dairy-product intake is linked to an increased risk of osteoporosis, as does the Harvard School of Public Health study. That would bring clinical analysis in line with the population analysis, which clearly states that increased dairy-product consumption is linked to increased risk for osteoporosis.
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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/29/2004 : 12:46:02
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What about man milk?
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Posted - 07/30/2004 : 03:32:05
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full of protein, no good whatsoever for osteoperosis
Frank Black ate my Hamster
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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 07/31/2004 : 03:52:13
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Lots of calories too. Never tastes the smae twice, either...
Anyway, Crouton, the little mred dots, yep, that is what I get.
Also, yes, ive tried the Oy! shakes. Alright, when youre craving for it, but meh. Cant beat the real thing.
I had a glass of milk yesterday. im so naughty.
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Posted - 07/31/2004 : 11:10:41
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30 calories a shot or so I've been led to believe.... Which is less than a dairy milk
A masked man enters a bank with a sawn off shotgun and points it at the woman behind the counter "Open the safe now, Bitch" The man screams at the woman "But Sir!" She gasps "This is a sperm bank, there's no money in the safe" "Just open the fucking safe" the man insists She opens the safe revealing lines upon lines of neatly stacked full sample bottles "Take the lid off that bottle and swallow it" yells the man She does as she is told "and the next one" swallow "and the next" This goes on for ten samples when the man whisks off his mask and to the ladys surprise it's her husband "Kev!" she exclaims! "see" says Kev "It's not that fucking difficult is it?"
ba da dum tshh
Frank Black ate my Hamster
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