| Author |
 Topic  |
|
|
fumanbru
* Dog in the Sand *
Canada
1462 Posts |
 Posted - 07/14/2004 : 05:44:27
|
sorry if this has been discussed before. i just stumbled across an excellent interview with fb from 2002. http://www.freewilliamsburg.com/november_2002/frank-black.html. (thanks yosoyunpistolero!) in it frank discusses the intricacies of "true blue". pretty cool...
FW: You have a penchant for word games. Dog In The Sand's "Robert Onion" has an acrostic in the lyrics. Anything you want to clue us in on these two records that would be fun to look for?
FB: Well, they're not really satisfying games that one could participate in. I could give an example of a kind of neurotic kind of word game. On the song "True Blue," there's this repeated phrase "In a little while." What happens is, in the following line, after "In a little while" the last syllable always is a syllable from that phrase, "in a little while." For example, "in a little while," the following is "I'm gonna do some wanderin." "In a little while" the next one is "so let's pass the narghile" Then the second half it does the same thing, and it may do it in reverse. The music is in reverse too. There's the "A" section, then the "B" section. It goes back to the "A" section, but then the "C" section is really the "B" section played backwards. There's this whole theme in the lyric, what it's all about, and there's a whole frontward and backward kind of thing there. There's one-this is all theoretical-strain of humanity which devolves, if you want to call it that, and returns to the sea, from whence we came. Maybe tens of thousands of years from now, maybe people will hang out more by the seaside and gradually begin this march back to the ocean. The singer of the song is of that strain in the second half, but in the first half the singer is that strain of humanity that moves away not only from where we are on the land, but away from planet Earth. They go up. Up and out as opposed to the other direction. It's all tied in with the frontward backwards of the lyrics. It's just this incredibly overcomplicated neurotic kind of thing. That's just some little ditty on the record, but sometimes that's what you do when you write a ditty. You become consumed by some little game you're playing. It's almost like it's not in your own control. It's happening very quickly.
 "I joined the Cult of Frank/ and I got a free t-shirt with this dude on it." |
|
|
Jose Jones
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1758 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2004 : 09:56:44
|
i love this man.
-dan |
 |
|
|
Erebus
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1834 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2004 : 11:15:28
|
| As a musical dunce, I just love getting this kind of insight on the man's process from the man himself. |
|
|
|
billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2004 : 11:20:19
|
I read that before
but I never really got it
that whole syllable thing
anyone could help me with this
 "I joined the Cult of Frank/Nobody wanted to join my Culf" |
|
|
|
The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1342 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2004 : 12:05:06
|
When he says "I'm gonna do some wanderin", the last part of wanderin is "in", which is a part of "In a little while". When he says "So let's pass the narghile", the last part of narghile is "hile", which is a part of "In a little while". I may have confused you more though.
1. I am a fsh with no i's.
2. You must be wearing Zubaz, 'cause you're daring to be different.
3. I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb. |
|
|
|
ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -
USA
2953 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 10:17:24
|
That's nifty. Just another reason why Frank is the king.
He does a forward/reverse thing in "Bullet" as well. Mostly in the verses (numbered lines)
1Excuse me now I've got a call
2I'll take this call from Valhalla
3Please tell my friends from outer space
4You are my son you'll take my place
5And if the revolution comes
6I've got some good friends there
aTake my place after all you are my son
bYou take the moon I'll take the sun
cAnd by the way if the revolution comes
dPlease take my rifles take my guns
eA single bullet loaded in each one
And if you don't like my melody
I'll sing it in a major key
I'll sing it very happily
But if everybody is all aboard
Let’s take it back to that minor chord
4You are my son you'll take my place
3Please tell my friends from outer space
2I'll take this call from Valhalla
1Excuse me now I've got a call
6I've got some good friends there
5Revolution comes
eA single bullet loaded in each one
dPlease take my rifles take my guns
cAnd by the way if the revolution comes
dPlease take my rifles take my guns
aYou take my place because you are my son
Excuse me now I'll take the sun
I'll take my place in Valhalla
And if the revolution comes
Please take my gun
Just quit a cult / going through withdrawal |
|
|
|
The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1342 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2004 : 10:49:58
|
The master.
1. I am a fsh with no i's.
2. You must be wearing Zubaz, 'cause you're daring to be different.
3. I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb. |
|
|
|
Otherfellers
- FB Fan -
Ireland
87 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2004 : 16:15:11
|
Is the song In a Litte While a kind of continuation of the same story as True Blue?
They pile, they pile, they pile the salad bar |
|
|
|
BLT
> Teenager of the Year <
South Sandwich Islands
4204 Posts |
Posted - 07/22/2004 : 16:32:09
|
quote:
Originally posted by Otherfellers
Is the song In a Litte While a kind of continuation of the same story as True Blue?
It's the same song, innit?
Celebrate the a-hole in you. |
|
|
|
billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Netherlands
6214 Posts |
Posted - 07/23/2004 : 11:04:28
|
quote:
Originally posted by The Calistanian
When he says "I'm gonna do some wanderin", the last part of wanderin is "in", which is a part of "In a little while". When he says "So let's pass the narghile", the last part of narghile is "hile", which is a part of "In a little while". I may have confused you more though.
1. I am a fsh with no i's.
2. You must be wearing Zubaz, 'cause you're daring to be different.
3. I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb.
thanks!
I do get it now!
"I joined the Cult of Frank/Nobody wanted to join my Culf" |
|
|
|
astrology
= Cult of Ray =
Saint Lucia
252 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2004 : 06:37:11
|
for me this song means a reflectio on life when you reach some place having survived, haveing seen others fall apart. Also when you filter things and realize that you have made half the way forward.
Also i have heard that true blue is an expresion that means good truth we have a similar expresion in spanish"de verdad de la buena" quite a joke
we have come here to stay
but the way to improve life is sincerity
lets pass the narghile
and go over the top
true blue
Even when I walk through a dark valley, I fear no harm
nur al din/nur al djinn, depending on... |
|
|
|
Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
8201 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2004 : 07:09:16
|
Thats pretty cool with Bullet, that it works backwards as well as forwards - it makes just as much sense going 1234abcde as it does edcba4321. Cool.
Its actually really satisying to see someone making such intelligent, thought-provoking music, when you're surrounded by identical boybands and coffee-table soft rock.
Good one Frank.
Kind regards,
Dr. Simon
Specialist In Broken Hearts |
|
|
|
PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1772 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2004 : 16:03:16
|
| once again, Frank astounds me with his pure musical genius. |
|
|
|
NimrodsSon
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
1938 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2004 : 16:19:46
|
Wow, I've read the True Blue thing before, but I never realized that about Bullet.It's amazing how something like that should be extremely obvious but somehow, the way he does it, it's very subtle.
ˇViva los Católicos! |
|
|
|
ProverbialCereal
- FB TabMaster -
USA
2953 Posts |
Posted - 07/24/2004 : 23:25:25
|
I think the reason I noticed the Bullet thing was because I tabbed it and probably got used to seeing/hearing the lyrics so much. I also tabbed True Blue, but I never would have noticed that "game" within the lyrics.
Frank... freakin' awesome.
Just the Cult of Frank / We want Honeycomb! |
|
|
| |
Topic |
|
True Blue
