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Malax
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/17/2004 :  15:03:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Im not, not respecting what he has to say or even giving him a hard time. I know all about the derailment post. He's not going to reply to this and say "oh yeah your right I was just posting for attention", is he?

My point is, its just a forum, if anyone is truly pissed off by the goings on, on this messageboard they have some serious problems anyway.



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Posted - 07/17/2004 :  15:08:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is it not the reaction of a good human being to be both annoyed and frustrated by personal insults and excessive rudeness in any form? Whether it be in person, over the phone, by a letter or online? You'd get pissed off if you got a letter calling your thoughts and words bullshit why should this be any different?

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Malax
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/17/2004 :  15:40:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thats not the same now is it? Im saying no one is truly pissed off by threads going off topic etc etc. If they are I doubt they need an apology, if they do, theres somethin up. No?

However if we are discussing personal attacks and such (which we aren't) then yeah your right I would be slightly annoyed but not like I wouldn't forget about it as soon as I close the page. But thats not what we are discussing so....



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Posted - 07/17/2004 :  15:55:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
well, No. It is the same, a letter or a phonecall saying your words and thoughts are bullshit is the same, both faceless media used for abuse, as can be this forum.

And people were pissed off and said they were pissed off and some people said so in most vehement terms. Some people argued nicely and some not. And it looks to me like an apology was what mike wanted to do, so he wasn't hiding behind any shitty topic thread. Just because it doesn't affect you doesn't mean it didn't affect others. I don't think you should be so dismissive.

And the next day untill ebb chipped in his two penneth this was a pretty much cleared up issue, but this thread wasn't started the next day it was started a good half hour after the kick off so was at the time still relevant.

And at the time, the comments felt pretty personal and were directed, this is all water under the bridge now though. And there is no real reason to dredge it up.

And yeah everyone gets depressed sometimes, it 'aint always easy to just deal. Some people take it real hard. It takes time sometimes and it isn't pleasant which is why I don't understand why people are giving out such bad vibes about it all. If people use the forum as a sounding board or as escapism in context, what's the big deal? really?


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Malax
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/17/2004 :  16:39:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For me to post something extensive again and to argue would make it look like I gave a shit about all of this. I've given my opinion and I've argued its case partly, thats that. You wanna write another 300 paragraphs defending someone you don't know, be my guest.



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Opaque
= Cult of Ray =

USA
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Posted - 07/17/2004 :  17:31:39  Show Profile  Visit Opaque's Homepage  Reply with Quote
*HUGS* to da Monkey.


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VoVat
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

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Posted - 07/17/2004 :  17:57:57  Show Profile  Visit VoVat's Homepage  Click to see VoVat's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
I find his honesty admirable to be quite frank


But he ate your hamster!



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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 07/19/2004 :  07:39:54  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think what Tre is trying to say and has touched on in her posts, is that I think a lot of people are forgetting everyone on this board - even though we have the common bond of the music - is here for different reasons. More relevant to regular posters, admittedly, but eveyones way in whoch they view the board, view their part on the board, and view the activites on here vary greatly.

Everyone is going on about how everyone has been depressed. Does this mean that mikes pain is less relevant because he wasnt the first person on here to share with us the fact that hes been there as well? This whole thread ive had Mclusky going through my head...their album title says it all I think.

Some of you may see this as just some where you go to talk abut music or whatever your reasons are, But Mike happens to see it as much more than that. The fact that he has aggravated some members on here, and that the whole derailment thing was handled in the way it was has hit him hard.

So, what does a guy do? When you feel youve annoyed someone with out realising, what do you do? You apologise, and explain your reactions.

THAT IS WHAT THIS THREAD IS.

Just thought I'd throw that in there...
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Malax
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/19/2004 :  08:31:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Difference Between Me And You Is That Im Not On Fire?! Why would you have that in your head?

:P

Im a reasonable person I understand what you say, no one said their pain and sadness is more painful and said than your, or anyones for that matter. Through this medium there is a message which mike is trying to get across. I get it. Its just some people take more joy from these pages than myself. What I/we've learned from all of this is to be more understanding and that problems often pose as solutions - that ones for you mike. Its hard to loose a girlfriend, I know, but even though it often feels like only she will bring you happiness its not the end of the world.

Come on now people we are all friends here the less stoning friends the better.

8



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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 07/19/2004 :  08:34:45  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
aww. malax, I think thats one of the nicest posts ive ever read from you. Im glad it looks liek leveryone, after 3 pages, understands what mike was actaully saying!

Just thought I'd throw that in there...
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Malax
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/19/2004 :  08:46:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ha cool I spent about 15 minutes writing it trying to fit as many mclusky songs as I could. I managed 8 and it makes me look like some kind of sensitive soul. I guess I mean it.



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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 07/19/2004 :  08:59:56  Show Profile  Visit GypsyDeath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
haha, I was wondering if you had to sit there with all of the albums in front of you trying to make some kind of mclusky-heart felt post...but hey, it worked. Maybe we should allt ry making posts using purely song titles.

Just thought I'd throw that in there...
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Malax
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/19/2004 :  09:29:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had to use the covers yeah because I used mainly first album titles and stuff and I hardly listen to that album. The new album was mainly impossible to use. How the fuck do you fit something like falco vs the young canoeist or kkkitchens (what were you thinking?) into a heartfelt post. A friend and I once had a whole conversation with someone using stereophonics songs. It wasnt till I wouldnt believe your radio he caught on.

Anyway yeah back on topic.



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