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Nightsoil
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Posted - 07/14/2004 :  02:54:19  Show Profile  Visit Nightsoil's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by twist
Sorry to hear he's not feeling well. I've heard people say FB's partially responsible for grunge, I don't hear that but I've always thought he was continuing on in the tradition of Beefheart and Ubu (and maybe a little Darby Crash). Morris Tepper & Eric Drew Feldman are already connected with FB and I read the Tom Waits rumor somewhere here. Wishfull thinking. And now it's time to go away on a holiday. Hmmmmm.



There was a healthy dose of the ol' cap'n in the Pixies and FB alright.

I take it you've not seen the John Peel documentary on Beefheart then? When I watched it, it was followed by a short piece by 'Anton Corjbin' (Yes. I know.) Both superb and - I think - available on DVD.
Well, well worth it. (I've got them on video from wayt back when)
I mention it as it is the only recorded appearance by CB in years,
and while a treat to know he's still working (in paint.) he looked very frail.

And I gotta say Tom Waits just sounds like the crumbs from Beefheart's plate to my ears. (no flaming, please. I might just need re-educating.)

I do know that 'The Magic Band' are once more a touring unit and for anyone even remotely interested - GO! Go now! They are fucking astonishing live!
Perhaps it's Magic Band connected, all this 'chicken-rumbling'?

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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2004 :  12:52:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't know Chicken, but since he was right the first time I am guessing he knows something here too. My bet is if they are going to announce anything big like a new album the might want to wait until they get back to the States for PR reasons...but who knows....
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2004 :  06:53:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1) Boner Machine is an inspired name!

2) Am I wrong to just want my Catholics back on tour?




I still believe in the excellent joy of the Frank
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boner machine
- FB Fan -

United Kingdom
51 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2004 :  08:53:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i want the catholics back on tour too!
the thing is with me, i've been a pixies fan for years now & never liked the catholics as much, so for years i was wishing the pixies would tour again but now they have, i've got into the catholics in a big way & want them to tour again! there's no pleasing some people!
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2004 :  10:04:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I also just want to know what Chicken knows. But I understand and respect his not wanting to SPILL THE BEANS.


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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1342 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2004 :  10:53:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's my favorite kid's game. That and Cooties.

1. I am a fsh with no i's.
2. You must be wearing Zubaz, 'cause you're daring to be different.
3. I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb.
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kathryn
~ Selkie Bride ~

Belgium
15320 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2004 :  12:40:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't know either game. Just as I don't know what Chicken knows.




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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <

Canada
4307 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2004 :  12:58:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote



"These waters run deep, it's clear my little one/Blue velvet star sky not a sound
The light in your eyes, the smile on your ruby lips/Tells me my lost soul is found"

Edited by - shineoftheever on 07/15/2004 13:00:23
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The Calistanian
* Dog in the Sand *

USA
1342 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2004 :  13:34:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I SAID COOTIES!!!!!! NOT ANTS IN THE PANTS!!!!!!



1. I am a fsh with no i's.
2. You must be wearing Zubaz, 'cause you're daring to be different.
3. I am a man with 3 fingers...but that doesn't count my index finger nor my thumb.
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twist
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USA
191 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2004 :  08:33:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Quote from Nightsoil:
"I take it you've not seen the John Peel documentary on Beefheart then? When I watched it, it was followed by a short piece by 'Anton Corjbin' (Yes. I know.) Both superb and - I think - available on DVD.
Well, well worth it. (I've got them on video from wayt back when)
I mention it as it is the only recorded appearance by CB in years,
and while a treat to know he's still working (in paint.) he looked very frail.

And I gotta say Tom Waits just sounds like the crumbs from Beefheart's plate to my ears. (no flaming, please. I might just need re-educating.)

I do know that 'The Magic Band' are once more a touring unit and for anyone even remotely interested - GO! Go now! They are fucking astonishing live!
Perhaps it's Magic Band connected, all this 'chicken-rumbling'?"


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Frank Black & The Magic Band? Whatever he does, I hope it's so shockingly big that half of us hate it and will be screaming from the balconies like the opening night of The Rites Of Spring. Could just be a nice little record, that'd be O.K. too.
You get great music T.V. & radio in drizzly ol' England, saw CB twice in CA, raised my musical consciousness and the hairs on the back of my neck. Out here in W. Mass. it's a siberian wasteland of dinosaur soft rock tours & quite little folkbars, but I'd travel to see TMB again & will try to find the Peel doc, thanks for the heads up.
I consider myself lucky to be sharing the same era with Tom Waits, to me he's one of the greats, but it's true CB stands alone in his own universe so as great as TW is he might comparatively crumish. Listen to Rain Dogs again.
Maybe a Tom Waits & Frank Black Lounge Duets with Strings.

Edited by - twist on 07/16/2004 08:47:24
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si_is_si
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14 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2004 :  10:28:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
have we forgotten that 'fool the world' is going to be the title of the prospective pixies book out later this year?
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2004 :  10:34:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by si_is_si

have we forgotten that 'fool the world' is going to be the title of the prospective pixies book out later this year?



No...you are right. That's why I am tending to believe Chickenwithtwo heads. He hasn't mislead us before. I think he just likes sharing info with other fans. It's not unlogical or competely improbable that the Pixies were out to Trompe/Fool the record company.
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Mad Lucas
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Australia
144 Posts

Posted - 07/18/2004 :  04:37:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We must follow the Chicken With Two Heads to the gates of Jerusalem, where upon Jericho will take us into his eternal cradle, and we can wash our weary eyelids in the rain.

The Organic Anti-Beat Box Boy
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joshuagingery
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USA
191 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2004 :  11:52:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yeah...what Mad Lucas said. Only instead of Jerusalem, can we go to Vegas?

boobs rule!
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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 07/19/2004 :  13:16:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by joshuagingery

yeah...what Mad Lucas said. Only instead of Jerusalem, can we go to Vegas?

boobs rule!



Yeah...

Then can we go to Hawaii and chill on the beach???
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Tony Watson
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17 Posts

Posted - 08/02/2004 :  17:46:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jason

This thread reminds me that maybe the internet wasn't such a good idea.



LOL, that made me laugh very hard for some reason.



And about the earlier discussion about why iTunes sucks and how it's still not fair to the artists:

"Apple says iTunes is "better than free" because it's "fair to the artists and record labels." That's simply not true. First of all, Apple gets 3 times as much money as musicians from each sale. Apple takes a 35% cut from every song and every album sold, a huge amount considering how little they have to do. Record labels receive the other 65% of each sale. Of this, major label artists will end up with only 8 to 14 cents per song, depending on their contract. Many of them will never even see this paltry share because they have to pay for producers and recording costs, both of which can be enormous. Until the musician "recoups" these costs, when you buy an iTunes song, the label gives them nothing. (Sources: major label musician's cut Apple's cut For a thorough explanation of how recouping screws musicians, see Confessions of a Record Producer by Moses Avalon)"

Source: http://www.downhillbattle.org/itunes/ (a great site)

Edited by - Tony Watson on 08/02/2004 17:48:00
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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1058 Posts

Posted - 08/03/2004 :  10:39:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
But with the pixies currently not on a record label,they would be receiving the 65% straight off?
So each time some-one bought bam thwok,they were giving each member $0.160875.(Minus the aforementioned production costs etc)


"I joined the Cult of this guy / 'cause they took my other picture away
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kottke
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USA
121 Posts

Posted - 08/05/2004 :  21:34:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, David Lovering flat out lied to me at an April concert when he said the Pixies had recorded no new material, so with that, anything Errol or any other random forum person says is a big, fat WHO KNOWS.



"Give me white ground to run"
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Alpha Soixante
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Canada
129 Posts

Posted - 08/08/2004 :  08:53:21  Show Profile  Visit Alpha Soixante's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The new album is ready for release because the songs were recorded during the original Trompe le Monde sessions. They fooled the world into thinking it was their last album, when they had in fact recorded two albums. Charles is an intelligent man because he saved it for a possible reunion, as a way of returning with material that will be more likely to please the original fans.

That, or Chicken-heads is just trying to trompe everybody himself.

If my guess is right, they shouldn't let on that its old material and they should call the album Trompe l'Oreille, "fool the ear," since no one will be able to believe their ears when they hear it.

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Daisy Girl
~ Abstract Brain ~

Belize
5305 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2004 :  11:24:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alpha Soixante

The new album is ready for release because the songs were recorded during the original Trompe le Monde sessions. They fooled the world into thinking it was their last album, when they had in fact recorded two albums. Charles is an intelligent man because he saved it for a possible reunion, as a way of returning with material that will be more likely to please the original fans.

That, or Chicken-heads is just trying to trompe everybody himself.

If my guess is right, they shouldn't let on that its old material and they should call the album Trompe l'Oreille, "fool the ear," since no one will be able to believe their ears when they hear it.





interesting theory... the fool the ear part made me laugh!
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twist
- FB Fan -

USA
191 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2004 :  08:04:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
More fodder for the Breaking News rumor mill,pilfered from "Ivandivel" http://forum.frankblack.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9222 -


"[Kim deal from a Rock A My Soul interview:

"Are there any Pixies tracks recorded that have not been released?
- Yes, yes. Definitely.
Can you tell me about them?
- No. Because we’re trying to work those out, because we’re doing another album straight away. that’ll be more surfier, like Bossanova.
We’ve got a lot of recorded material, kind of like Guns ‘n’ Roses. Not enough to make this album and not enough to make that album. We’ve got to wait. We’ve done sort of seven eights of this album and two eighths of that album... see what I mean? We’ve done more than and album’s worth of stuff,but not enough for either of them to come out."

The second source is an interview with Black in Meldoy Maker (i think) where he talks about the recording of trompe le monde, and where he mentions that they are also recording a different album - a surfy album. He specifically mentions "an epic surf song" - which i guess turned up as "surf Epic", and later on as Dog In Sand. He also opened his show on his first solo tour with 2 (or 3?) surfy songs, so the surf mood was very evident around the first album.]"


The Lost Tapes ? This surf epic sounds like a lost masterpiece. Can anyone substantiate or provide links?

Edited by - twist on 08/13/2004 16:39:21
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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1058 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2004 :  14:23:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think there was a clip of the pixies doing surf epic floating about(might have been a different song,cant remember),going back to the J.Malta affair..

EDIT:My bad,it was actually brackish boy


"I joined the Cult of this guy / 'cause they took my other picture away

Edited by - ShakeyShake on 08/13/2004 14:29:42
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Levitated
= Cult of Ray =

Chile
652 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2004 :  15:09:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I remember a long time ago, maybe 1998, I saw a Pixies trading page and this guy had a kind of ranking with their favorite bootlegs and if I remember well, maybe I'm wrong, on his top one he had a bootleg called "Pixies - Surf Epic" and he added something like this: "Don't ask me what that means". I've tried to search for that page again but I've not found it :(
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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1058 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2004 :  16:08:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think I saw that page,but it was Sci-fi Surf i think


"I joined the Cult of this guy / 'cause they took my other picture away
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Levitated
= Cult of Ray =

Chile
652 Posts

Posted - 08/13/2004 :  21:15:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
uh yeah..that's pretty much the name I saw, but is that a bootleg??
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6213 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2004 :  08:38:46  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
sci-fi surf
yes

what is it?


"I joined the Cult of Frank/Nobody wanted to join my Culf"
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ShakeyShake
* Dog in the Sand *

United Kingdom
1058 Posts

Posted - 08/18/2004 :  11:47:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just assumed at the time it was a pet name for bossanova,never heard of it as a boot.


"I joined the Cult of this guy / 'cause they took my other picture away
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Marc With A C
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Posted - 09/18/2004 :  22:04:06  Show Profile  Visit Marc With A C's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I believe that this may be the droid that you are looking for, good sir: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/7537/pixies.html

In the evening I want my coffee, in the morning I want my dope... www.marcwithac.com
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billgoodman
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<

Netherlands
6213 Posts

Posted - 09/19/2004 :  04:58:36  Show Profile  Click to see billgoodman's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
damn, the sci-fi surf lyrics won't open

"I joined the Cult of Serge/'Cause he invented indierock before Frank did"
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