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Homers_pet_monkey
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 06/12/2004 : 11:47:55
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The only reputation I thought Birmingham had, is that it's a bit grim. I have never been so I couldn't really comment.
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Posted - 06/12/2004 : 12:27:10
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| It has it's good points... Before they started building the new bullring it was great, the rag market and surrounding markets were fab, you could pick up all sorts of odd retro gear and we used to have numerous amazing indie record shops and brilliant alternative clubs. Now HMV has taken over the world so we're down to two indie record shops of merit, (well three if you count reddingtons rare records but that's been shifted to the arse end of town) The markets have been tarted up (to keep up with the bullring) and lost that shabby chic, the clubs have all moved to the big-sterile-stale beer stinking-cow-shed that is the acadamy, so ramshackle is hip hop night for 17 year olds. And my favourite SF bookstore has halved in size and had a price increase because of it. Apart from that though.. Birmingham is great! |
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gracie
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
573 Posts |
Posted - 06/13/2004 : 04:24:01
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Hey, i've just bought the album and its fucking great. Pattern Recognition is amazing, its so good to see Kimmy G back on such good form!
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This_Guy
- FB Fan -
Canada
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Posted - 06/14/2004 : 04:41:22
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| am i the only one that thinks miss gordon has always looked like she's been ridden really hard and put away wet far too often? |
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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 06/14/2004 : 04:55:33
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Bumble, how can you live in manchester and say you dont feel safe in LONDON!!!!?!?!?
Yeah, sure theres assholes, but just like there are assholes in birmingham. Its a matter of knowing how to handle your self. You dont get that hassle in birmingham, because you live there, and know how to handle yourself there.
If you looked like a tourist, or were just visiting, and obviously quite paranoid, you will get targeted. thieves are like sharks - they smell fear.
In The End We Will Look Back And Laugh
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Posted - 06/14/2004 : 10:19:18
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I'm sorry but no
I don't tend to wander round with a meek little victim look about me. I am quite capable of handling myself and certainly didn't look like a tourist! I wasn't wearing a "My friend went to london... T shirt" with a camera round my neck and a novelty blow up big ben under my arm.
The places where I was I did not expect the shit I got. My purse was lifted (we think) by a bar man at the canaerfon castle in Camden. I was punched at the pixies gig by a drunk, I was mugged at a bus stop outside euston train station.
Well euston maybe but at a gig!!! Of all the gig's in all the cities I have ever been to I have not encountered this. I did nothing wrong. The guy was a drunken twat. And camden! Silly me thinking that there was some sort of itinerant freindliness amongst the slightly alternate crowd on the sole basis of that being what I've encountered in every other city I have ever been to. ever.
Probably has little to do with London generally being an overpopulated overpriced overstressed overemphasised underpaid self important dirty shit hole.
can't get into anything these days. Always on the peripheral. Always terrified, exhausted, annoyed, pissed, anxious, out of it-out of the loop, out of my mind, out of time.
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shineoftheever
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Canada
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Posted - 06/14/2004 : 10:43:57
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I'm gonna get this thread back on topic! Anybody going to the Commodore show on July 13?
"Signatures are for sissies" |
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Ziggy
* Dog in the Sand *
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/14/2004 : 14:05:29
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I'm going to uni in Birmingham later this year.
And London can be a tough place. Feelin for ya. |
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
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Posted - 06/14/2004 : 14:10:02
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I just got a $538 tax refund, I am going to buy 2 tickets tonight if they are not sold out!
"Signatures are for sissies" |
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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 06/15/2004 : 06:52:42
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im sorry, but you clearly do not know anything about camden. Nearly every person i know has had some sort of incident in camden, when they first started going there. Camden is THE place to expect it. more than a lot of other places in london.
The gig was in Brixton. BRIXTON. youve heard about this place right? And obviously these sort of people are going to target a gig which is gonna be totally sold out, and obviously going to have people from all over the country attending.
there are far simpler ways to spot a tourist, or someone visiting the area. Im not syaing youwandered around looking all meek and everything...I dont know how to explain it. I can spot someone whos visiting in london a mile away from someone who knows what they are doing.
Im sorry but every city is overpopulated. Its going to happen in any city. Are you going to sit there and tell me that no one you know in birmingham has ever had any such incident happen to them!??!?!?! There is no way i would ever believe you.
In The End We Will Look Back And Laugh
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gracie
= Cult of Ray =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/15/2004 : 09:25:11
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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 06/15/2004 : 09:32:45
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Ive not had any trouble since i was around 13/14. Even then, that wasnt me, it was a friend. the only hassle i get in london is off guys being lecherous perverts.
As i said, its about how you handle your self.
I bet you never thought your movie would turn out this way
You crossed the other way, youd hope i wouldnt see you, you say youre doing fine, but thats not what it looks like, your undercovers on...
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shineoftheever
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Posted - 06/15/2004 : 10:34:22
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maybe i'll buy the dvd, how is it El Barto?
"Signatures are for sissies" |
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Posted - 06/15/2004 : 13:20:20
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I have never said that incidents do not ever happen in any other city. I have never said that birmingham is some big friendly mecca all I said was after all of this crap I didn't want to visit london again if I could help it, sorry for being put off by the city, I have visited i lots of times incident free! but this time took the biscuit and I am a mite offended by your suggestion that I brought this on myself, I had pretty much written it off as bad luck.
can't get into anything these days. Always on the peripheral. Always terrified, exhausted, annoyed, pissed, anxious, out of it-out of the loop, out of my mind, out of time.
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apl4eris
~ Abstract Brain ~
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Posted - 06/15/2004 : 14:58:43
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We have to be careful when we speak of London around Mel. She's running a very well-fought campaign for the tourism board. 
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Homers_pet_monkey
= Official forum monkey =
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/15/2004 : 15:04:50
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Yeah and she doesn't even live there. Weirdo.
Listen to Nine Black Alps. |
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
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Posted - 06/15/2004 : 15:38:29
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i just checked online wth ticketmaster, tickets are still available, couldn't get to TM in time last night.
"Here today, Guano tomorrow" |
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Cheeseman1000
>> Denizen of the Citizens Band <<
Iceland
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Posted - 06/15/2004 : 15:50:05
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Never had any problems myself, but then I'm about 6'3 and large... London's not the scariest city I've been to, but it can be dangerous. I'd rather walk around, say, Brixton or Tottenham, than parts of Glasgow, and definitely Johannesburg. So its not all bad.
I think you had really bad luck Tre, it sounds like a bummer. Whereever you go you get nutters, it just looks like you encountered more than your fair share.
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SpudBoy
= Cult of Ray =
Equatorial Guinea
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Posted - 06/15/2004 : 21:27:16
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I personally am not completely eager to visit London again. I haven't had any "incidents", per se, but I have consistently been frightened by the black ick that lays onto a tissue swabbed on my face after a day walking around the city. I smoked constantly there such that I could breathe through a filter.
Edit for on-topicness: I did not see Sonic Youth in London.
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GypsyDeath
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Posted - 06/16/2004 : 08:24:09
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Yeah, i was thinking of changing my course for a leisue and tourism one...
I was born in london though, and in Hackney, so yeah, i know what the depths of london are like.
everyone gives london a bad name, but they dont seem to be able to compare it to other large cities. yes, it has a high crime rate, but its comparatively low if you consider how many people actually live there.
Maybe you did have bad luck. I dunno, i wasnt there with you. i dont know what youre like. so if you say its bad luck, then it probably was.
I bet you never thought your movie would turn out this way
You crossed the other way, youd hope i wouldnt see you, you say youre doing fine, but thats not what it looks like, your undercovers on...
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PsychicTwin
* Dog in the Sand *
USA
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Posted - 06/16/2004 : 08:59:14
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Review of "Sonic Nurse" @ Onion AV CLUB:
http://theonionavclub.com/music/index.php?issue=4024#review2
transcribed below:
Sonic Youth
Sonic Nurse (Buy It!)
(Geffen) - review by Noel Murray
Before the advent of SoundScan, online shopping, MTV's 120 Minutes, and the other factors in the alternification of American popular music, Sonic Youth existed mostly as a rumor, written about in music magazines available in places where the band's records were hard to find. And maybe it was better that way. Aside from a few scattered tracks and two classic full albums (EVOL and Daydream Nation), the output from Sonic Youth's first two decades tends to be fun to read about, but not always as entertaining to hear. Conceptually, the New York art-punk band's concoction of bratty pop-culture references and avant-garde noisemaking has always been brilliantly colorful, but in practice, it can come out a featureless metallic gray.
After a brief flirtation with the mainstream in the early '90s, Sonic Youth was mired in borderline-irrelevancy and fans-only specialty releases until two years ago, when the band put out the focused, Jim O'Rourke-aided Murray Street, which reminded listeners how it became legendary in the first place. O'Rourke is still in the fold for the follow-up, Sonic Nurse, which—given its snug sound and inviting jams—could just as easily be called Murray Street II.
The most significant change in Sonic Youth's recent work is a move away from abrasion for its own sake. On the extended instrumental midsection of Sonic Nurse's opener, "Pattern Recognition," drummer Steve Shelley clicks and rattles while guitarists Thurston Moore and Lee Ranaldo—who in the past indulged some tuneless scraping between verses—weave a tight, tuneful pattern around Kim Gordon's rumbling bass. (The band saves the feedback hiss for the song's coda.) The twangy swing of "Dripping Dream," "Stones," and "New Hampshire" drifts smoothly into intricate guitar breaks that build instead of destroy, and that are almost hippie-friendly in their mellowness. On the whole, Sonic Nurse compiles a laid-back hour of elaborate plucking and rhythm from five veteran musicians who reserve musical violence and poetic anger for when it feels most appropriate.
Though it isn't innovative or revelatory, the Sonic Youth of the early '00s is much more open than the provocateur that stormed out of the New York art scene 20 years ago. That openness actually sounds more daring than the layered damage of the Youth's youth. It may not reside at the forefront of anything anymore, but Sonic Youth is a better band than it's ever been. |
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
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Posted - 06/16/2004 : 14:58:22
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watched the dvd last night, reminded me how much i like them. kims look so sweeet in "little trouble girl" video. yummy!
"Here today, Guano tomorrow" |
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WolfManMikeLonely
= Cult of Ray =
USA
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Posted - 06/16/2004 : 20:41:02
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That video is fucking creepy. Damn aliens.
"Hey fuck you if you don't like it."
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
4307 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2004 : 11:09:17
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Tra-la-la-la! la-la-la-la!
"Here today, Guano tomorrow" |
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shineoftheever
> Teenager of the Year <
Canada
4307 Posts |
Posted - 06/17/2004 : 15:33:57
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And richard kern has a serious mean beard, someone tell floop he's in for some stiff competition!
"Here today, Guano tomorrow" |
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